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Old 03-23-2018, 08:12 PM   #3526
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Rich, just man up and buy a van. Best camping rig ever.
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Old 03-23-2018, 09:21 PM   #3527
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Rich, just man up and buy a van. Best camping rig ever.
Pretty sure the only thing slower than a Crosstrek is a Sprinter, plus I like sleeping outside vs. a confined area.

I do bring a bunch of crap though...because why not?
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Old 03-23-2018, 09:58 PM   #3528
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Iíve used cots and went back to just a pad fwiw. I found them loud, cold, and uncomfortable
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Old 03-23-2018, 10:41 PM   #3529
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Fella I know has a cot. We unpacked it once indoors and then stuffed it away, no way anyone was hauling that around.
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Old 03-23-2018, 11:56 PM   #3530
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I don't know anyone who's a fan of cots.

Based on what you guys are saying, i might just look for some cheaper bags and pads for the money.
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Old 03-24-2018, 12:02 AM   #3531
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Yup.

It's a cheap tent, and a less friendly mummy bag, but it's cheap.

I ditched my mummy bag for a rectangular for car camping, and switched to using a fleece bag/blanket as a liner instead of an additional layer on cold nights and my camping sleep comfort has gotten way, way, better. Tempted to get a (low) cot, anybody have experience with them?

Hope to make it up to Utah in the next week or two for a couple nights of semi-luxurious car camping and biking.
I agree. For car camping, my wife and I have two zip together down rectangular bags, rated 15* I believe (??). They are great. We also have a queen size blow up air mattress that works well. When I worked out of a tent, I had a padded, low cot, and it worked really well. The padding added a ton of insulation and it was stable and super easy to set up and take down. Oh, and it never went flat! It is a bit bulky though.

For backpacking I have a mummy with 800 loft down. Mmmmmm. Rated 0 or even minus possibly. I also have a mummy rated 30 or do (also down) which packs down the size of a beer can. Horses for courses. I also a a few cheap fiberfill bags for loaners.
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Old 03-24-2018, 12:08 AM   #3532
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Now, if by "car camping" you are talking about sleeping in your car, that is a whole nuther sumpin.
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Old 03-24-2018, 03:29 AM   #3533
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I don't know anyone who's a fan of cots.

Based on what you guys are saying, i might just look for some cheaper bags and pads for the money.
moosejaw.com has good deals on mountain hardware bags right now.
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Old 03-24-2018, 09:57 PM   #3534
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moosejaw.com has good deals on mountain hardware bags right now.
I think that's nicer than i need. None of my girls will be backpacking with me.

Who knows when I'll even be able to go back packing again.
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Old 03-26-2018, 10:19 AM   #3535
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Need inflatable sleeping pad recommendations for me and the girlfriend.

Going to be used for backpacking but noting crazy (ie, paying money to save ounces is fine, but saving grams would be overkill)
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Old 03-26-2018, 11:12 AM   #3536
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I think that's nicer than i need. None of my girls will be backpacking with me.

Who knows when I'll even be able to go back packing again.
I bought an outdoor vitals bag for my trip last year. It ended up working out pretty well and it was comfortable. $50 for a synthetic 35*F bag that was relatively light weight.

https://www.amazon.com/Outdoor-Vital.../dp/B00R5KUNOG

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Old 03-26-2018, 11:17 AM   #3537
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I bought an outdoor vitals bag for my trip last year. It ended up working out pretty well and it was comfortable. $50 for a synthetic 35*F bag that was relatively light weight.
Thank you, I'll have to check that out.

edit: I suppose I can also just get the tried and true coleman sleeping bag.

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Old 03-26-2018, 11:25 AM   #3538
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Need inflatable sleeping pad recommendations for me and the girlfriend.

Going to be used for backpacking but noting crazy (ie, paying money to save ounces is fine, but saving grams would be overkill)
I went on the cheaper side with my inflatable pad ($50). I had no issues with it and it packed down really small. It was a bit noisy but I had it layered as (tent -> pad -> bag), I never tried having the pad inside the bag with me. Inflating an deflating was super easy.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Old 03-26-2018, 11:27 AM   #3539
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Saw a little talk about dry bags earlier, but any suggestions for a dry bag for an SLR camera that will be in/on a kayak?
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Old 03-26-2018, 11:37 AM   #3540
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Saw a little talk about dry bags earlier, but any suggestions for a dry bag for an SLR camera that will be in/on a kayak?
Frankly, for a camera I'd look at a good waterproof case rather than a drybag, most bags are not rated for submersion.
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Old 03-26-2018, 11:38 AM   #3541
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Need inflatable sleeping pad recommendations for me and the girlfriend.

Going to be used for backpacking but noting crazy (ie, paying money to save ounces is fine, but saving grams would be overkill)
REI Co-op Flash Insulated - it's a good pad, an affordable $100, and at 15 oz it is light. I have a Nemo Tensor I like, but they're like $170.
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Old 03-26-2018, 11:55 AM   #3542
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Saw a little talk about dry bags earlier, but any suggestions for a dry bag for an SLR camera that will be in/on a kayak?
Arc'teryx LEAF Drypack 25.
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Old 03-26-2018, 12:17 PM   #3543
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Highly recommend Exped products.

We have the UL 7 mats and have been very happy with them so far.
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Old 03-26-2018, 03:13 PM   #3544
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Going to be used for backpacking but noting crazy (ie, paying money to save ounces is fine, but saving grams would be overkill)
Exped.

Match you needs to the models......
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Old 03-26-2018, 03:45 PM   #3545
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Thanks guys, the Exped Hyperlite Duo looks like the front runner at the moment.
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Old 04-02-2018, 03:00 PM   #3546
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Just bought a Big Agnes insulated sleeping pad, inflatable. Been using self-inflating pads but they are bulky on a motorcycle.

How do you guys inflate them? Just huff away, have a pump, or the pump/pillow doodad they sell?
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Old 04-02-2018, 03:03 PM   #3547
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My Exped has an optional stuff/compression sack that doubles as a pump bag, real nifty. Much better than a heavy pump or blowing.
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Old 04-02-2018, 03:32 PM   #3548
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Get a pump of some kind, the water vapor in your breath isn't great for the mats for a couple reasons... And it's worth the couple oz of weight.

FYI, we switched to exped mats after a couple years of using BA mats and not being impressed with their quality and durability.
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Old 04-02-2018, 05:21 PM   #3549
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Get a pump of some kind, the water vapor in your breath isn't great for the mats for a couple reasons... And it's worth the couple oz of weight.

FYI, we switched to exped mats after a couple years of using BA mats and not being impressed with their quality and durability.
The stuff sack IS a pump.
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Old 04-02-2018, 06:39 PM   #3550
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My Exped has a built in pump. I figured it would be bogus, but it works really well, and it keeps moisture from getting in the down (my Exped has down insulation built in).
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