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Old 03-03-2019, 12:35 AM   #3751
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Old 03-03-2019, 01:27 AM   #3752
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Old 03-11-2019, 09:46 PM   #3753
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Over the weekend i went on one of the colder trips I've been on in recent memory. I think it was around 20F Friday night, and a little bit warmer Saturday night. I was warm enough, just very uncomfortable in my 30 mummy bag. i also split open the zipper both nights.

Do any of you guys use quilts? I made one about two years ago, but it's light weight, and i could use something heavier. Are they warm enough to use in sub-freezing weather?
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Old 03-11-2019, 10:09 PM   #3754
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What kind of pad are you using? You might just be losing heat to the earth.
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Old 03-12-2019, 07:18 AM   #3755
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What kind of pad are you using? You might just be losing heat to the earth.
An insulated static V.

I was warm enough for most of the night, i was just claustrophobic in the bag.
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Old 03-12-2019, 08:14 AM   #3756
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Old 03-12-2019, 11:48 AM   #3757
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An insulated static V.

I was warm enough for most of the night, i was just claustrophobic in the bag.
Oh. I sleep with long sleeves, gloves and a beanie so I can flop my arms around out of the bag.
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Old 03-12-2019, 12:00 PM   #3758
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I think I saw someone post this blanket in either this thread or in the recent purchases thread. I found it at costco for $40 on a 2 pack. WELL worth it.
Packs down very small and is very warm.



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Old 03-13-2019, 04:25 PM   #3759
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long x wide sleeping pad, 3 man tent, and sleeping bag in the compression sack. Everything I use is so green...

Might be time to spring for a sleeping bag that compresses a bit more than my Frontcountry Bed, but I love the design.
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Old 03-13-2019, 04:42 PM   #3760
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An insulated static V.

I was warm enough for most of the night, i was just claustrophobic in the bag.
Mummy bags suck unless you sleep like a mummy.
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Old 03-13-2019, 05:17 PM   #3761
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Mummy bags suck unless you sleep like a mummy.
Yelling "Shut UP!!! Go to SLEEP!!!!" whilst shaking a fist?
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Old 03-13-2019, 05:56 PM   #3762
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I have several bags. An 800, a cheap Kelty down (Cosmic, me thinks), and a couple Alaska Down rectangulars (no count on those, they are very old, at least 30 years). If it is going to be really cold (sub 20f), I bring the 800. If it is going to be a bit warmer (20-40f) I typically bring the Kelty (it is a partial mummy but roomier). Car camping, the Alaska Downs (they zip together ).

My recent move, with "downsizing" (meaning everything had to fit in my Outback) meant that I got rid of some seriously good, but seriously stinky thru-hiker bags), which I regret and don't regret at the same time.....

As others have said, buy a really good, insulated pad. I use an Exped down pad, and it really, REALLY helps on the cold nights, regardless of the bag. A good down (or even synth) bag will compress underneath you at night, and therefore lose nearly ALL of its insulating qualities.
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Old 03-13-2019, 07:09 PM   #3763
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I have several bags. An 800, a cheap Kelty down (Cosmic, me thinks), and a couple Alaska Down rectangulars (no count on those, they are very old, at least 30 years). If it is going to be really cold (sub 20f), I bring the 800. If it is going to be a bit warmer (20-40f) I typically bring the Kelty (it is a partial mummy but roomier). Car camping, the Alaska Downs (they zip together ).

My recent move, with "downsizing" (meaning everything had to fit in my Outback) meant that I got rid of some seriously good, but seriously stinky thru-hiker bags), which I regret and don't regret at the same time.....

As others have said, buy a really good, insulated pad. I use an Exped down pad, and it really, REALLY helps on the cold nights, regardless of the bag. A good down (or even synth) bag will compress underneath you at night, and therefore lose nearly ALL of its insulating qualities.
Funny thing is, that Nemo Tensor LW sleeping pad is their insulated version, rated to like 15F. I also have this fat bastard:



Bit of a size difference between the two.



I also have a lighter Kelty down mummy-ish bag, but I really like the zipperless integrated quilt style that Sierra Designs came up with. I just need one of their all-down versions instead of the synth-down combo bag that I have.
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Old 03-13-2019, 08:31 PM   #3764
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Hmm, I would have to look at the Exped version I have. It rolls up into a sack the size of a quart bottle. Doesn't weigh much at all.
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Old 03-13-2019, 08:41 PM   #3765
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The one I have is pretty burly, there's a youtube video of some dude sledding down a mountain on one. I don't think they sell that model in the US anymore, but it's pretty slick. Has 8 individual down-filled tubes inside of fabric sleeves, so even if one develops a leak, the others won't be affected. Exped rates it to -22F. I like to use it with an Exped hammock I have, gives it structural rigidity. I tried the Nemo with it once on a backpacking trip, and it was warm enough but otherwise uncomfortable since it just folded like a taco.
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Old 03-13-2019, 09:26 PM   #3766
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Downmats are heavy as ****.
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Old 03-13-2019, 11:57 PM   #3767
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Oh. I sleep with long sleeves, gloves and a beanie so I can flop my arms around out of the bag.
It's my legs that bother me the most. Also, i blew the zipper of my bag twice. Apparently my shoulders are a bit too wide for this bag.
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Old 05-06-2019, 08:25 PM   #3768
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Flew out to AZ to do some hiking with my buddy who did both Mt Whitney trips and also Mt Gorgonio with me. He planned out a loop in the Superstition Mountains starting at Peralta trail head, going up secondary trail thru Geronimo's Cave to Lone Tree with the view of Weaver's Needle, back to Fremont Saddle and then taking an unlisted trail around the ridge to catch Carney Springs trail down. I totally underestimated the ruggedness of the AZ landscape coupled with the heat had my quads burning & cramping halfway through when we stopped at Lone Tree. But I pushed on thru the unlisted trail and down Carney Springs where we must have dropped 1200ft in about a mile from the unlisted trail junction.
We originally had plans to hit the Three Sisters summit but that wasn't happening. Alternative was hit Wave Cave on the way down but any uphill hiking left my legs feeling like a newborn baby deer. We ended up hiking Wave Cave on Sunday morning, then taking a drive to Tortilla Flats for lunch before heading to the airport. Solid trip.















Blue is the Saturday loop hike, red was Sunday wave cave.
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Old 05-10-2019, 07:08 PM   #3769
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Maybe some of you not as worthless as the other ****s can help.

Not sure if what I'm looking for even exists, but here goes. I'm looking for a crossbar for my van, but not the usual one. I'm looking for a bar to run front to back between the existing side to side rails so I can mount a canopy awning and still be able to put my kayaks on.

Now I know what you're thinking "But Honda, you dumb****, just bolt it onto the roof rail that's already there!" Alas, I cannot due to the roofline slope. As the door opens it essentially moves "up" and hits the awning. I could mount the mounts "backwards" and gain another inch, but it does not feel secure enough IMHO.

Edit: If push comes to shove, I'll use some HD aero bar clamp and bolt a piece of square tubing to it. I'm just hoping for a nice, out of the box solution (which will be more money, but meh)
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Old 05-11-2019, 11:13 AM   #3770
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^^^

Easy. I've done something in the past for a different use.

Home Depot. Buy conduit and either use conduit connectors or conduit strap ties. Cut conduit to size, prime, and paint to match...done!

*Edit* Just to clarify, the key part is the "T" squeeze connector. If you can't find that you can make something similar using two parts. I used this because I was making industrial furniture and didn't want to buy a pipe threader. Squeeze connectors aren't as pretty as threaded connectors but are ****ing awesome if you want to avoid that craziness.

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Old 05-20-2019, 01:08 AM   #3771
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I keep thinking about staying at lookouts or other remote public rentals. I look, and it's so far out, I just give up. F it, I booked this for 11/8-10. Total impulse. I don't know if it will be hiking, snowshoeing or sitting in the heat most of the time. I didn't do a ton of research, but did check out a gravel bike ride near there in the summer, which sounded like one could die pretty easily.

https://www.recreation.gov/camping/campgrounds/234185

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[Located on the crest of the Warner Mountain Range at an elevation of 8,222 feet, Drake Peak Lookout hugs the wind-swept land surrounding it, offering unparalleled views into Oregon, California and Nevada. The lookout was built in 1948 and has served as a fire detection site for the surrounding area. Historically, Forest Service personnel lived long seasons in the cabin, scanning the region for lightning, flames, curls of smoke or any other indicator of possible forest fires. At one time, hundreds of these types of lookouts were in service throughout the Pacific Northwest. Today the lookout provides a unique lodging experience for guests seeking recreation and relaxation in the Fremont-Winema National Forest. Although the lookout offers some basic amenities, for guests to enjoy their experience completely, they must bring several of their own supplies.

Facilities

The small, 14 x 14-foot lookout is designed to accommodate up to four people and is furnished with folding cots, a table and chairs, a wood stove for heat and limited counter space for food preparation. A picnic table is located outdoors, as is a vault toilet. There is no water on site, so guests must bring sufficient supplies for drinking, cooking and washing. Guests may fill water jugs at Mud Creek Campground approximately 6 miles away. Guests must also provide their own sleeping bags, sleeping pads, towels, dish soap, matches, cooking gear, first aid kit and firewood. Although lighting is available, it is recommended that guests bring an additional light source in case of emergencies. The Forest Service does not provide firewood for this facility.

Natural Features

Drake Peak Lookout sits beneath a vast sky, overlooking distant peaks, volcanic landscapes and wide-open sage basins. From its scenic perch, the lookout offers panoramic vistas and glimpses into wild places where visitors can still find solitude. Although the lookout does not sit on Drake Peak, the nearby mountain is one of several high peaks in the immediate vicinity, including Twelvemile Peak, Light Peak and Crook Peak. Composed of uplifted and eroded basalt, and sparse vegetation, views from this mountain offer unobstructed views of unique geological landforms. Diverse habitats support a variety of species. Deer, Rocky Mountain elk and pronghorn find homes in nearby forests, while several varieties of trout inhabit the lakes and streams. In the spring and fall, migrating geese, ducks and swans frame the Oregon sky. Black bears, mountain lions and bobcats, also find homes in the surrounding area.

Recreation

Hiking, stargazing and wildlife viewing are popular activities. The Drake-McDowell area provides solitude for backpackers and horseback riders with spectacular views of the Warner Mountains, Hart Mountain, Warner Valley and Abert Rim. A hike to the summit of Drake Peak is a popular excursion from the lookout. At night the lookout is an ideal setting for stargazing, as constellations and planets put on a dazzling display.




I guess 8200 feet wasn't high enough at first.

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Old 05-20-2019, 01:21 AM   #3772
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Those lookouts look cool but yeah booking them is ridiculous.
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Old 05-20-2019, 02:14 AM   #3773
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Miss being out. Wish i could do it again:





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Old 05-23-2019, 02:49 AM   #3774
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Gear advice?

I've been thinking of new lighter gear for a while and the REI sale is pushing me over. These items are what I'm thinking and I can't really see what's better. Looking for any advice, thoughts, or suggestions.


Sleeping pad: Neoair xtherm. Super high reviews pretty much everywhere. Regular size.
https://www.moosejaw.com/product/therm-a-rest-neoair-xtherm-mattress_10271845

Sleeping bag: REI magma 30. 1lb 6 ounces for long. Outdoor gear labs suggests all these quilts in their UL best bags sections, and most of those are 20 ounces. This bag is only 2 oz more in a long size.
https://www.rei.com/product/148246/rei-co-op-magma-30-sleeping-bag-mens

Car camping tent:
REI half dome plus. I only have a backpacking tent right now. I would like something for car camping. This is well reviewed and tough and less expensive than others.
https://www.rei.com/product/128692/rei-co-op-half-dome-2-plus-tent

Lightweight backpacking tent.
Copper Spur HV UL1 or UL2
This I'm still iffy about. I don't like my current tent, the tarptent double moment. I want a freestanding tent. The copper spur ul2 gets a lot of great reviews and it's fully free standing. Most other lightweight tnets require poles or stakes to stay up. Don't know if I want the UL1 to save all the weight or UL2 for extra room at a half lb increase.
https://www.rei.com/product/110206/big-agnes-copper-spur-hv-ul-1-tent
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Old 05-23-2019, 09:27 AM   #3775
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The half done (and quarter done) REI tents are great but if you are buying a separate tent for just car camping, why not get something with more space and headroom?

An REI Kingdom 4 for example?
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