Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Tuesday October 15, 2019
Home Forums WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
NASIOC
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC General > News & Rumors

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.







* As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. 
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads. 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-11-2019, 10:34 AM   #301
Pre
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 139693
Join Date: Feb 2007
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fredzy View Post
I'm afraid they will continue with them until people stop freaking buying them.
Which will be ages. Your kids will have gone from preschool to graduating high school in that time. Reference: STI.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Pre is online now   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Old 10-11-2019, 10:47 AM   #302
SeeeeeYa
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 129681
Join Date: Oct 2006
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: WV
Vehicle:
'19 Imp Ltd Wagon
CWP

Your NASIOC Administrator

Quote:
Originally Posted by fredzy View Post
I'm afraid they will continue with them until people stop freaking buying them.
It has been many decades since I had a car with as little power as I do in my '19 Impreza. Many. And those were small cars from the 60s and 70s that weighed 800-1000 lbs less. 150 hp in a 2200lb car is a far cry from the same in one weighing 3200.

Yet, there has not been a time I've needed more in the Imp. In fact, I've only went WOT a couple times, mostly to see what it did. Otherwise I have more than enough, regardless of the road, and only use a fraction in normal day to day driving... while not changing my driving habits. Would I like more? Sure, but it would also see seldom use of whatever it had.

After two and a half months of driving this sudden departure from my turbo trajectory I'm finding more virtue in it than I imagined. For the first couple weeks I was all into gas mileage, something I scoffed at before. Lower octane and great gas mileage have become a smiley for me now... all while enjoying every amenity I've become accustomed to.

It's not the horsepower... it's how it's implemented. The CVT/engine combination somehow multiplies the little motor's abilities like a magic potion. It's quiet, unobtrusive, and smooth as you simply go about your driving. There is no sense of weakness, I can be as obnoxious as I want going through traffic in too big a hurry. It don't go like stink for sure, but it goes as well as I want it to go, everywhere.

Out of context, the 152 number is pathetic. But if you didn't know the number, if you were an average new owner horsepower wouldn't even come up. There's just no reason, and there's so much more to appreciate that all anyone driving one of these can think about is how much they like it.

That's the wrong message here, obviously. But "here" is out of context in more ways than an obsession with horsepower... in case you didn't already know that.

SeeeeeYa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2019, 10:53 AM   #303
bugatti0628
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 447323
Join Date: May 2016
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fredzy View Post
I'm afraid they will continue with them until people stop freaking buying them.
I believe that 1.5t puts out similar hp output to the USDM 2.0, it's the 1.8t I'm more interested in seeing as it puts wrx hp, but more fuel efficient than the FA20dit. that engine deserves to be in a turbo forester or crosstrek sport for the states.
bugatti0628 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2019, 11:07 AM   #304
Angelus911
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 89967
Join Date: Jun 2005
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: MA
Vehicle:
2012 Impreza Sport
DGM

Default

Hell, they don’t even need a turbo for those cars. If they put the 2.5 in it it would be a great upgrade. Owning a Legacy now, I get better MPG than I did in my old Impreza. You’d more than likely get more HP with minimal loss in MPG if any
Angelus911 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2019, 12:08 PM   #305
chanomatik
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 159474
Join Date: Sep 2007
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Blackstone, MA
Vehicle:
2017 Impreza Sport
Lithium Red - OLDKID

Default

FB20 still confuses me when compared to FB25.
chanomatik is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2019, 03:42 AM   #306
Goempie
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 166202
Join Date: Dec 2007
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bugatti0628 View Post
those engines are only for the JDM. we will most likely have improved FA20dit and upgraded FA24dit. I wouldn't mind the 1.8 dit in a forester xt though
For shure Europe and eventually US
Goempie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2019, 03:45 AM   #307
Goempie
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 166202
Join Date: Dec 2007
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bugatti0628 View Post
I believe that 1.5t puts out similar hp output to the USDM 2.0, it's the 1.8t I'm more interested in seeing as it puts wrx hp, but more fuel efficient than the FA20dit. that engine deserves to be in a turbo forester or crosstrek sport for the states.
Read somewhere about 160-170 for the 1.5 and about 200-220 1.8dit. for european outback/legacy would be great
Goempie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2019, 11:08 AM   #308
bugatti0628
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 447323
Join Date: May 2016
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Goempie View Post
Read somewhere about 160-170 for the 1.5 and about 200-220 1.8dit. for european outback/legacy would be great
that would be great, at one point they wanted to replace all our NA engines with downgraded turbos. I hope that overall plan is still in play for the USDM starting with these 2 new engines
bugatti0628 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2019, 05:23 PM   #309
b4wantab
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 21293
Join Date: Jul 2002
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Oak Park, IL
Vehicle:
05 OB Black Bean
1969 W-30

Default

Subaru NA engines have been in the 150-180 hp range for the last 30+ years. They need a better auto transmission(s). A good 8 speed would put all NA Subaru's back below the current 9-10 second 0-60 times and would boost a 1-2 MPG improvement.

More HP is just taxing a system that is already at its limit.

Peace,

Greg
b4wantab is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:04 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2019 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2019, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.

As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.