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Old 05-22-2019, 09:35 AM   #176
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fails to calculate a route.
Maybe you just can't get there from here?
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Old 05-22-2019, 04:16 PM   #177
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Yes after several minutes of driving
Before they changed it out it was still off at 22 degrees F
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I'll admit I'd be annoyed at over 10 degrees error

But you mean after driving right? Not just getting in the car?
Because the thing (no idea where it is btw) no doubt gets heated by the sun and always reads way high when I first get in and then drops within about a minute or two once air starts flowing over the car
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Old 05-22-2019, 04:29 PM   #178
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I had this issue after I performed wireless updates for several states iny area. Complete failure to work. The fix was a complete download of 7 packages on a desktop to a 16 GB stick. Then update the car with all packages and it works fine. Bottom line is individual systevwireless updates did not work.... broke the system

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I connected the wifi and checked for updates, updated specific states and fails to calculate a route. I took it to the dealer, they even ordered and changed the head unit. Still i fails to calculate a route. My dealer is taking care of me. I was just curious if anyone else has this problem.
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Old 05-22-2019, 08:15 PM   #179
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I had this issue after I performed wireless updates for several states iny area. Complete failure to work. The fix was a complete download of 7 packages on a desktop to a 16 GB stick. Then update the car with all packages and it works fine. Bottom line is individual systevwireless updates did not work.... broke the system
Thank you. I'll let the dealer know you had a similar issue and will inform them what you did. As of now, my car is the first one in the area having this problem and they're doing everything they can to fix it.
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Old 05-23-2019, 01:00 AM   #180
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The tires and road noise. Almost didnt buy it but racecar.
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:06 AM   #181
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I want to give this thread some additional exposure, because now that someone else has pretty much exactly described what I am hearing i know Im possibly not crazy (well in terms of this sound anyway )

https://forums.nasioc.com/forums/sho....php?t=2901886
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Old 05-23-2019, 11:16 AM   #182
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I love my 2019 STI. However just recently my car has developed a small brake squeal not super loud but enough so I can hear it every so often when I stop. Brought the car to the dealer and they said they did not hear it. Of course somebody was playing loud heavy metal music on my XM radio. I was advised that it was because of the performance brakes. My 2011 STI never had a brake squeal. Anybody else on here have this issue?? It drives me nuts.
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Old 05-23-2019, 12:15 PM   #183
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The biggest complaint I have with my 2019 WRX is, when I'm in 4th gear and accelerating, the shifter makes a weird buzzing like noise. Almost like the sound of a card hitting bicycle spokes, but not quite as loud. It also visibly vibrates while this happens, very slightly. If you barely push the shift lever forward or backwards it stops, or if you let off the gas it stops. It only does it in 4th, all of the other gears are smooth as butter, with no vibration or noises.

The car has the optional STI short shifter. My previous car was a 2016 WRX that also had the STI short shifter and it didn't do this, so it's a little confusing to me.

During the winter it was louder, but as it has warmed up outside, it has become less noisy. It is still pretty noticeable though.

I've read that it's normal, but I've also seen that people claim that Subaru knows about this issue and is working on a fix and will do a technical service bulletin about it. I haven't seen any updates about it though.

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Old 05-23-2019, 04:42 PM   #184
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I want to give this thread some additional exposure, because now that someone else has pretty much exactly described what I am hearing i know Im possibly not crazy (well in terms of this sound anyway )

https://forums.nasioc.com/forums/sho....php?t=2901886
Probably rev-hanging when gunning it on 3rd gear+ for emissions purposes.
The WRX does it on 1st to 2nd shift and it's incredibly annoying. The STI does not. But seems like there's a bit of it (or something similar) on higher gears. Not sure what's the "worry"...

The stock map is super fun on the 2019 STI. Much better than the Stage 1 tune. Definitely can't say the same about the WRX's stock tune.

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I love my 2019 STI. However just recently my car has developed a small brake squeal not super loud but enough so I can hear it every so often when I stop. Brought the car to the dealer and they said they did not hear it. Of course somebody was playing loud heavy metal music on my XM radio. I was advised that it was because of the performance brakes. My 2011 STI never had a brake squeal. Anybody else on here have this issue?? It drives me nuts.
Normal for strong performance brakes. Just give it a good run and they will get better.
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Old 05-23-2019, 04:59 PM   #185
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Probably rev-hanging when gunning it on 3rd gear+ for emissions purposes.

The WRX does it on 1st to 2nd shift and it's incredibly annoying. The STI does not. But seems like there's a bit of it (or something similar) on higher gears. Not sure what's the "worry"...



The stock map is super fun on the 2019 STI. Much better than the Stage 1 tune. Definitely can't say the same about the WRX's stock tune.







Normal for strong performance brakes. Just give it a good run and they will get better.


Interesting you say the stock map is better than ďstage 1 ď for the 2019. Could you elaborate? Everything I have heard is that driveability improves with any sort of stage package. I am considering a Cobb/MAP stage 1 package on my 2019 sti but Iíd like to hear your thoughts.
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Old 05-23-2019, 05:31 PM   #186
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Interesting you say the stock map is better than ďstage 1 ď for the 2019. Could you elaborate? Everything I have heard is that driveability improves with any sort of stage package. I am considering a Cobb/MAP stage 1 package on my 2019 sti but Iíd like to hear your thoughts.
For the WRX, the Stage 1 is better because it helps with the super touchy throttle mapping AND it improves the annoying 1st to 2nd gear rev-hang (which the STI does not have). Aannnnnnnnnd improves top end power which the WRX seriously lacks and the STI is pretty decent with.

For the STI, the way I see it is that it dampens the throttle quite a bit, which is a big part of why the 2019 STI feels so fun with the stock map when going from i, to S to S#.

So you lose the throttle mapping associated to i, S and S# in exchange for "boost select". Stage 1 not only it dampens the throttle... you loose the throttle mapping changes between i, S and S# altogether. I guess boost select is cool; but throttle mapping is far more usable and fun than just having a bit more boost in S#. Cobb says they've "taken it a step further" by adding the boost select, but I don't think they have. They have simply substituted the throttle mapping with boost select. A step further would have been keeping a bit of both... some throttle map adjustability AND boost select.

Another important one of course... warranty and reliability. I guess you could work around it and there are different opinions thrown around but... stock map has warranty and it's proven to be reliable. Nothing against Cobb OTS in terms of reliability, but there's definitely more room for "user error" than on the stock tune.

I'm not really sure what people describe as "driveability". What is wrong with the stock 2019 STI? The only 'driveability' glitch i've felt was that grindy 1st to 2nd gear shift, which you would still have with a Stage 1. Other than that, it's pretty driveable.

The stock map sounds more aggressive too. Specially in S and S#. No big deal.

In the end, the OTS Stage 1 is ok. But the way I see it, it only has value if you're going further down the tuning spiral and a Stage 1 is only a step (which is a valid situation). Or if you want the intake whooosh. While the stock 2019 STI tune is... in my opinion, the best Subaru has ever come up with.

I'm basically only running the Stage 1 to get some baselines and really really confirm if, where and how I get any knock with our fuel... but the plan is to get a downpipe and a couple other bits for a custom Stage 2+. I just don't want to introduce so many variables at once.

If all you want is Stage 1 and leave it there.... might as well keep your warranty and not flash it. That's the way I see it. I find the stock 2019 STI really really good. MUCH better than the 2015-2018 and for sure infinitely better than the WRX.

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Old 05-23-2019, 05:34 PM   #187
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Probably rev-hanging when gunning it on 3rd gear+ for emissions purposes.

The WRX does it on 1st to 2nd shift and it's incredibly annoying. The STI does not. But seems like there's a bit of it (or something similar) on higher gears. Not sure what's the "worry"...



The stock map is super fun on the 2019 STI. Much better than the Stage 1 tune. Definitely can't say the same about the WRX's stock tune.







Normal for strong performance brakes. Just give it a good run and they will get better.


After reading this:

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/rev...heads-hate-it/

Rev hang does sound like the best explanation, though I notice it in all gears.

Other random gripe, I wish the bigger power came on earlier in the rpm range. I will fix that with a tune most likely. The car only really puts you back in the seat after 4700 rpms.
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Old 05-23-2019, 05:57 PM   #188
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After reading this:

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/rev...heads-hate-it/

Rev hang does sound like the best explanation, though I notice it in all gears.

Other random gripe, I wish the bigger power came on earlier in the rpm range. I will fix that with a tune most likely. The car only really puts you back in the seat after 4700 rpms.
Yeah it could very well be doing some rev hang in all the gears. But, I drove the WRX without a tune and yeah the rev hang is there and annoying, but the car is still perfectly driveable. It's just something you get used to relatively quick... I've driven the MT WRX and had a CVT. On the CVT it's a non-issue, actually... it helps keep the turbo spooled.

On the STI it seems a bit more noticeable on the 2019 for sure. I tried a 2016 STI a long time ago and there was 0 rev hang. On this one, I can feel a little bit when gunning it, but doesn't bother me (it's also not as bad as on the WRX).

Ah well, lack of early power is just the nature of the beast. Old school engine. Old school tuning. Bigger/heavier turbo than the WRX.
Stage 2 "solves" quite a bit due to less restriction on the exhaust which helps spool the turbo easier. Some people like the charm of turbo lag...

Stage 1 on the STI dissipates a bit of the 4700 push into your seat thing. It feels like a more gradual and linear pull. Still, you get pushed back when WOT.
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Old 05-23-2019, 07:57 PM   #189
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Yeah it could very well be doing some rev hang in all the gears. But, I drove the WRX without a tune and yeah the rev hang is there and annoying, but the car is still perfectly driveable. It's just something you get used to relatively quick... I've driven the MT WRX and had a CVT. On the CVT it's a non-issue, actually... it helps keep the turbo spooled.



On the STI it seems a bit more noticeable on the 2019 for sure. I tried a 2016 STI a long time ago and there was 0 rev hang. On this one, I can feel a little bit when gunning it, but doesn't bother me (it's also not as bad as on the WRX).



Ah well, lack of early power is just the nature of the beast. Old school engine. Old school tuning. Bigger/heavier turbo than the WRX.

Stage 2 "solves" quite a bit due to less restriction on the exhaust which helps spool the turbo easier. Some people like the charm of turbo lag...



Stage 1 on the STI dissipates a bit of the 4700 push into your seat thing. It feels like a more gradual and linear pull. Still, you get pushed back when WOT.


Iím coming from a 2010 wrx. It was a Cobb stage 1. That car to this one I felt the wrx was faster and had a better power band, came on closer to 3500 rpms. So that was a little disappointing. This car handles light years better and my wrx had a full suspension and sway bars, so that is a big plus. This car still has a bit of roll that needs to be taken out.

Iíll give Cobb stg1 a try in this car then prob pro tune a stg2, I have a pretty good tuner near me so I may as well take advantage of it.
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Old 05-23-2019, 11:40 PM   #190
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Iím coming from a 2010 wrx. It was a Cobb stage 1. That car to this one I felt the wrx was faster and had a better power band, came on closer to 3500 rpms. So that was a little disappointing. This car handles light years better and my wrx had a full suspension and sway bars, so that is a big plus. This car still has a bit of roll that needs to be taken out.

Iíll give Cobb stg1 a try in this car then prob pro tune a stg2, I have a pretty good tuner near me so I may as well take advantage of it.
Ah if you have solid tuners nearby then that's great. I didn't really want to go the custom tune route because it starts getting too complicated... but with how much I dislike the Stage1 OTS I'm going to either reflash to stock tune and collect the parts I'm going to do, or get the downpipe asap.
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Old 06-28-2019, 11:22 AM   #191
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Does anyone know if 2018 parts would easily switch to a 19?

Springs/mudflaps/exhaust
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Old 06-28-2019, 01:14 PM   #192
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Does anyone know if 2018 parts would easily switch to a 19?

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WRX yes, STI only the flaps. Exhaust was changed slightly in 2019 and the springs will only work if coming from a 2015+ STI.
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Old 06-28-2019, 01:36 PM   #193
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WRX yes, STI only the flaps. Exhaust was changed slightly in 2019 and the springs will only work if coming from a 2015+ STI.
so a 2018 WRX exhaust, springs and flaps would easily switch to an STI? I know the 18's have inverted struts, so I wasn't sure if the same is true for the STI. I'm sure they'll bolt on, but you're saying it's ok for drivability? I know the spring rate may differ a bit.
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Old 06-28-2019, 11:14 PM   #194
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2019 WRX Limited...

I encountered some weird stalling issues with the AC on LO and fan on max speed today while taking off from a dead stop. It happened twice where I took off normally and it was like the car was going to die until I re-clutched and revved it up some more. It was as if I hit a dead spot in my accelerator where I was taking off then the car just stalled out like it was going to die.
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I suggest you get a Cobb AP stage1 at least. Also undo hill assist.
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Old 06-29-2019, 05:51 PM   #196
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2019 WRX Limited...

I encountered some weird stalling issues with the AC on LO and fan on max speed today while taking off from a dead stop. It happened twice where I took off normally and it was like the car was going to die until I re-clutched and revved it up some more. It was as if I hit a dead spot in my accelerator where I was taking off then the car just stalled out like it was going to die.
Toon or no toon if the AC compressor kicks on while you are letting off the clutch you have to adjust for more throttle right away or you bog. I really really really hate the AC on these cars, the tune didnít change that one bit and I was hoping it would.

As far as hill assist, it doesnít take a rocket scientist to figure out exactly how it works, and it works the same every time. If you havenít figured out how far up from the floor on the clutch release it disengages then maybe Oichan is right. If you understand the hill assist system then thatís not your problem.
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Old 06-29-2019, 10:55 PM   #197
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Toon or no toon if the AC compressor kicks on while you are letting off the clutch you have to adjust for more throttle right away or you bog. I really really really hate the AC on these cars, the tune didnít change that one bit and I was hoping it would.

As far as hill assist, it doesnít take a rocket scientist to figure out exactly how it works, and it works the same every time. If you havenít figured out how far up from the floor on the clutch release it disengages then maybe Oichan is right. If you understand the hill assist system then thatís not your problem.
This isn't my first rodeo with a Subaru that has hill assist. I believe my 2012 WRX had too...

I think it is the AC compressor kicking in at the worst possible moment bogging down the car. That, I am not used to... My bogging started with the clutch fully out and just took me by surprise because I thought things were rolling along fine and nothing.... I guess I will have to adjust my driving technique to compensate.
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Old 06-30-2019, 09:03 AM   #198
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I think it is the AC compressor kicking in at the worst possible moment bogging down the car.
I've experienced what you're talking about both before and after the tune. It's like the compressor cycles on, but instead of a 5HP draw, it's more like 25-30. Under light throttle it's really unnerving, but has only happened twice for me in 1500 miles.
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Old 06-30-2019, 09:07 AM   #199
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Every Subaru I've owned has had the a/c bog the engine a bit.
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Old 06-30-2019, 09:33 AM   #200
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2019 STI, to me 1st and 2nd gear are very underwhelming. Almost feels like you are being held back when getting on it. Then when 3rd gear hits you can really feel it pull.
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