Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Thursday March 28, 2024
Home Forums Images WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
NASIOC
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC Subaru Models > Impreza Forum

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.







* As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. 
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads. 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-19-2013, 07:01 AM   #251
flyboy1100
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 314216
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: ND
Vehicle:
2012 2.0i Sport 5MT
DGM

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirt Bringer View Post
Anyone else made any progress with this? Maybe a way to reprogram it to an off position?
I was thinking about asking the dealer, but until someone does this 3rd party I don't think we will see anything
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
flyboy1100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Old 04-19-2013, 07:42 AM   #252
jsteg
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 329271
Join Date: Aug 2012
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Lady's Island, SC
Vehicle:
2012 Impreza Limited
Ice Silver Metallic

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by flyboy1100 View Post

I was thinking about asking the dealer, but until someone does this 3rd party I don't think we will see anything
There's no way the dealer will disable that kind of safety feature! Ask them to disable the airbags too while you're at it!
jsteg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2013, 08:31 AM   #253
flyboy1100
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 314216
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: ND
Vehicle:
2012 2.0i Sport 5MT
DGM

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jsteg View Post

There's no way the dealer will disable that kind of safety feature! Ask them to disable the airbags too while you're at it!
I was more curious if their computer could do it rather than asking if they would actually do it.

Safety feature is highly debatable...I do wish there was a way to disable it although not permanently
flyboy1100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2013, 08:35 AM   #254
jsteg
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 329271
Join Date: Aug 2012
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Lady's Island, SC
Vehicle:
2012 Impreza Limited
Ice Silver Metallic

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by flyboy1100 View Post

I was more curious if their computer could do it rather than asking if they would actually do it.

Safety feature is highly debatable...I do wish there was a way to disable it although not permanently
It's not debatable, it's your opinion. Stability control, vdc, abs, airbags, etc have all been PROVEN to be safer than without them.
jsteg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2013, 08:54 AM   #255
flyboy1100
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 314216
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: ND
Vehicle:
2012 2.0i Sport 5MT
DGM

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jsteg View Post

It's not debatable, it's your opinion. Stability control, vdc, abs, airbags, etc have all been PROVEN to be safer than without them.
The one time stability control really tried to "save" me it took me into a curb, without it I would have safely spun out and could have stopped that.

Only proven because the quality of drivers/driving instruction has decreased and these "systems" are now "needed". Just look at the amount of people who have no idea how to operate high beams as an example

If we changed our licensing requirements to require a retest every time you renew, a lot of this crap wouldn't be needed. I highly think we should, but the general public would throw a fit and only because they shouldn't be operating vehicle anyway
flyboy1100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2013, 09:14 AM   #256
LuckyNYC
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 72812
Join Date: Oct 2004
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Queens, NY
Vehicle:
2013 Impreza Sport
Ventian Red Pearl

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by flyboy1100 View Post
The one time stability control really tried to "save" me it took me into a curb, without it I would have safely spun out and could have stopped that.
You have no way of knowing that.

Quote:
Only proven because the quality of drivers/driving instruction has decreased and these "systems" are now "needed". Just look at the amount of people who have no idea how to operate high beams as an example
Have a link to back this claim up?

Quote:
If we changed our licensing requirements to require a retest every time you renew, a lot of this crap wouldn't be needed. I highly think we should, but the general public would throw a fit and only because they shouldn't be operating vehicle anyway
This I agree with but not for the same reason. I think it would be better used to prevent old blue hairs from getting behind the wheel.
LuckyNYC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2013, 09:18 AM   #257
Dirt Bringer
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 340297
Join Date: Dec 2012
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Cincinnati
Vehicle:
2013 Impreza 5sp Prm
Ice Silver

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jsteg View Post
It's not debatable, it's your opinion. Stability control, vdc, abs, airbags, etc have all been PROVEN to be safer than without them.
In the hands of a completely incompetent moron maybe. In the hands of a relatively experienced driver it is debatable. Unfortunately most drivers fall into the category of not giving one single f**ck about how to drive properly, hence manufacturers tendency to pull this kind of crap on us.
Dirt Bringer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2013, 09:27 AM   #258
jsteg
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 329271
Join Date: Aug 2012
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Lady's Island, SC
Vehicle:
2012 Impreza Limited
Ice Silver Metallic

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirt Bringer View Post

In the hands of a completely incompetent moron maybe. In the hands of a relatively experienced driver it is debatable. Unfortunately most drivers fall into the category of not giving one single f**ck about how to drive properly, hence manufacturers tendency to pull this kind of crap on us.
It's not the OEMs doing it, it's the government! Most of this stuff is mandatory now!
jsteg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2013, 09:29 AM   #259
Dirt Bringer
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 340297
Join Date: Dec 2012
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Cincinnati
Vehicle:
2013 Impreza 5sp Prm
Ice Silver

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jsteg View Post
It's not the OEMs doing it, it's the government! Most of this stuff is mandatory now!
That's because people sue them for everything. We live in a country where nothing could ever possibly be my fault, I should have been protected from X event. Now give me money.
Dirt Bringer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2013, 09:30 AM   #260
myrt1987
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 323103
Join Date: Jun 2012
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Columbia MD
Vehicle:
2018 WRX
Pure der

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirt Bringer View Post
In the hands of a completely incompetent moron maybe. In the hands of a relatively experienced driver it is debatable. Unfortunately most drivers fall into the category of not giving one single f**ck about how to drive properly, hence manufacturers tendency to pull this kind of crap on us.
Right, tools to help you maintain stability and traction are unneccessary. While I agree it should be able to be turned off I appreciate having them.

The reason more cars have them now is because cars are faster now then 20 years ago (and technology makes it affordable)

Quote:
Originally Posted by LuckyNYC View Post
You have no way of knowing that.

Have a link to back this claim up?

This I agree with but not for the same reason. I think it would be better used to prevent old blue hairs from getting behind the wheel.
+1
myrt1987 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2013, 10:22 AM   #261
Dirt Bringer
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 340297
Join Date: Dec 2012
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Cincinnati
Vehicle:
2013 Impreza 5sp Prm
Ice Silver

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by myrt1987 View Post
Right, tools to help you maintain stability and traction are unneccessary. While I agree it should be able to be turned off I appreciate having them.

The reason more cars have them now is because cars are faster now then 20 years ago (and technology makes it affordable)



+1
Oh I agree, I am very happy to have it. However, this inability to turn it off is just one step too far, and the culmination of several factors making me reconsider how long I want to keep this car in the first place. I really did want to love this car...but seriously, enough with this stability control nonsense. If a driver is too stupid to realize they shouldn't turn off the stability control under normal daily driving and go have an accident, I'm sorry, but there is a contingency for that and it's called natural selection.

Last edited by Dirt Bringer; 04-19-2013 at 10:32 AM.
Dirt Bringer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2013, 10:47 AM   #262
jsteg
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 329271
Join Date: Aug 2012
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Lady's Island, SC
Vehicle:
2012 Impreza Limited
Ice Silver Metallic

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirt Bringer View Post

Oh I agree, I am very happy to have it. However, this inability to turn it off is just one step too far, and the culmination of several factors making me reconsider how long I want to keep this car in the first place. I really did want to love this car...but seriously, enough with this stability control nonsense. If a driver is too stupid to realize they shouldn't turn off the stability control under normal daily driving and go have an accident, I'm sorry, but there is a contingency for that and it's called natural selection.
Didn't you realize you couldn't turn it off before you made the purchase?
jsteg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2013, 10:56 AM   #263
Dirt Bringer
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 340297
Join Date: Dec 2012
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Cincinnati
Vehicle:
2013 Impreza 5sp Prm
Ice Silver

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jsteg View Post
Didn't you realize you couldn't turn it off before you made the purchase?
I had been made to understand it only took effect when the car reached extreme angles if the trac-control switch was pressed. This is not true, it takes effect immediately. I can't really think of any car in it's price range where it can be turned off other than the Fiat 500 Abarth edition. Hence my distaste of newer cars (performance models notwithstanding). Too many computers and driver aids...
Dirt Bringer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2013, 11:19 AM   #264
flyboy1100
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 314216
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: ND
Vehicle:
2012 2.0i Sport 5MT
DGM

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LuckyNYC View Post

You have no way of knowing that.
I do, when I tried to correct the car wouldn't accept my input

Yes vdc has a purpose, but it shouldn't be mandatory. Just like tpms or low oil lights, those are tasks the drivers should be performing

Last edited by flyboy1100; 04-19-2013 at 11:29 AM.
flyboy1100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2013, 01:04 PM   #265
Paradis
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 334647
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Lac St-Jean, Canada
Vehicle:
2012 POS Impreza

Default

Paradis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2013, 01:39 PM   #266
flyboy1100
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 314216
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: ND
Vehicle:
2012 2.0i Sport 5MT
DGM

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paradis View Post
Hehe.
flyboy1100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2013, 02:06 PM   #267
pegmonkey
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 99792
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Some scary corner of my mind..
Vehicle:
98 Impreza
RED

Default

I found a way to disable VDC/ABS/TC on the Crosstrek and posted it here. It leaves the steering intact and the speedo/trip computer keeps working. No throttle cut at 4 grand. It does kill cruise control though.

http://www.subaruxvforum.com/forum/s...uestion-3.html

It might be the same for the impreza. I have the manual, it's supposed to work for the CVT also.

Off road use only disclaimer applies.
pegmonkey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2013, 04:56 PM   #268
flyboy1100
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 314216
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: ND
Vehicle:
2012 2.0i Sport 5MT
DGM

Default

Awesome!
Now to wire up a switch to disable the fuse rather than pull it every time
flyboy1100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2013, 10:17 PM   #269
goregasm
*** Banned ***
 
Member#: 331656
Join Date: Sep 2012
Vehicle:
2012 2.0i
Marine Blue Pearl

Default

If people still think the VDC button doesn't work they're drunk.

Go on a patch of snow or ice (or this time of year, very loose gravel) and smash your foot to the floor with VDC on then off, notice a difference? You sure do!
goregasm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2013, 03:03 AM   #270
Dirt Bringer
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 340297
Join Date: Dec 2012
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Cincinnati
Vehicle:
2013 Impreza 5sp Prm
Ice Silver

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pegmonkey View Post
I found a way to disable VDC/ABS/TC on the Crosstrek and posted it here. It leaves the steering intact and the speedo/trip computer keeps working. No throttle cut at 4 grand. It does kill cruise control though.

http://www.subaruxvforum.com/forum/s...uestion-3.html

It might be the same for the impreza. I have the manual, it's supposed to work for the CVT also.

Off road use only disclaimer applies.
Someone needs to go try this on the Impreza to confirm it works on our cars too. I can't imagine any reason why it wouldn't, but it would be good to know. I would do it myself but I don't really have anywhere safe to test it out at.
Dirt Bringer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2013, 05:51 AM   #271
jsteg
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 329271
Join Date: Aug 2012
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Lady's Island, SC
Vehicle:
2012 Impreza Limited
Ice Silver Metallic

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by goregasm View Post
If people still think the VDC button doesn't work they're drunk.

Go on a patch of snow or ice (or this time of year, very loose gravel) and smash your foot to the floor with VDC on then off, notice a difference? You sure do!
That's because even though the owners manual calls it a vdc switch, it's actually a traction control switch.
jsteg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2013, 10:31 AM   #272
goregasm
*** Banned ***
 
Member#: 331656
Join Date: Sep 2012
Vehicle:
2012 2.0i
Marine Blue Pearl

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jsteg View Post
That's because even though the owners manual calls it a vdc switch, it's actually a traction control switch.
Well what the **** do you want them to do? Install a button that turns of ABS, traction control, stability control, airbags, and **** why not the engine itself?
goregasm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2013, 11:02 AM   #273
Dirt Bringer
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 340297
Join Date: Dec 2012
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Cincinnati
Vehicle:
2013 Impreza 5sp Prm
Ice Silver

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by goregasm View Post
Well what the **** do you want them to do? Install a button that turns of ABS, traction control, stability control, airbags, and **** why not the engine itself?
That would be nice actually.
Dirt Bringer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2013, 11:31 AM   #274
jsteg
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 329271
Join Date: Aug 2012
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Lady's Island, SC
Vehicle:
2012 Impreza Limited
Ice Silver Metallic

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by goregasm View Post
Well what the **** do you want them to do? Install a button that turns of ABS, traction control, stability control, airbags, and **** why not the engine itself?
Ummm...well if you want to have the functionality to turn off VDC, then absolutely!! With the exception of the ABS, and your smartass remarks of the airbags and engine, that's EXACTLY what vehicles with true VDC switches do!!

You really need to calm the hell down though! Stop trying to be an Internet tough guy just because I pointed out something you don't like.
jsteg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2013, 12:24 PM   #275
soobie doo
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 324017
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: South-Central PA
Vehicle:
2012 Impreza 2.0i
Ice Silver Metallic

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by goregasm View Post
Well what the **** do you want them to do? Install a button that turns of ABS, traction control, stability control, airbags, and **** why not the engine itself?
I think there actually may be a switch to turn off the engine.
soobie doo is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Anybody in SCIC-land taken possession of 2012 Impreza 2.0i yet? somebody else Southern California Impreza Club Forum -- SCIC 3 12-23-2015 04:34 AM
2012 Impreza 2.0i Gas Mileage Thread Benchmark General Community 934 10-08-2013 02:49 PM
[REQUEST TO MODS] 2012 Impreza 2.0i only forum please? tornado542 General Community 10 04-26-2012 05:07 PM
2012 Subaru Impreza 2.0i Break-In Period Arseezy Newbies & FAQs 7 02-14-2012 08:28 PM
Impreza 2.0i durid Newbies & FAQs 2 02-07-2012 03:54 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2024 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2019, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.

As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.

When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission
Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network.