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Old 11-20-2012, 04:54 PM   #1476
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So, the ST is 3200lbs.

Furd, why yur crs be so fat?
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Old 11-20-2012, 04:57 PM   #1477
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So, the ST is 3200lbs.

Furd, why yur crs be so fat?
That's why they add the hursepurrers!
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Old 11-20-2012, 05:48 PM   #1478
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The actual weight of the dually is closer to 7700 pounds. You almost always run over the GAWR before hitting either your payload, GVWR or GCWR.

Also, needing a CDL for over 26k is a myth. Further, in NC, you register for your weighted tag based on what your combined weight as driven is, regardless of the sticker weight.
CDL for over 26,000 is not a myth. Also 26,000 is for the combined weight of the truck and the trailer and or the traler has to be under 10,000 lbs.

The MYTH is that you need a CDL for non personal use over 26,000 / 10,000 trailer. What you do need is a NON CDL CLASS A for a trailer over 26,000 / 10,000 or a Class B for over 26,000 with no trailer.

AFAIK it is the same road test as a CDL

Between you and Lbo im not sure what to do with myself.



Dont get caught whatever you do, in VA its around $1 for every 100 pounds over. If you get caught they may put the truck/trailer out of service and or make you get it towed away.

Also I believe NON CDL trailers hauling cars / whatever over 26,000/10,000 require a "not for hire" sticker on the trailer. Otherwise it would be considered a for hire trailer and thus you would need a CDL to transport it. DOT does not **** around with rules and they dont give a **** what you say or what you didnt know.
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:00 PM   #1479
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CDL for over 26,000 is not a myth. Also 26,000 is for the combined weight of the truck and the trailer and or the traler has to be under 10,000 lbs.

The MYTH is that you need a CDL for non personal use over 26,000 / 10,000 trailer. What you do need is a NON CDL CLASS A for a trailer over 26,000 / 10,000 or a Class B for over 26,000 with no trailer.

AFAIK it is the same road test as a CDL

Between you and Lbo im not sure what to do with myself.

Dont get caught whatever you do, in VA its around $1 for every 100 pounds over. If you get caught they may put the truck/trailer out of service and or make you get it towed away.

Also I believe NON CDL trailers hauling cars / whatever over 26,000/10,000 require a "not for hire" sticker on the trailer. Otherwise it would be considered a for hire trailer and thus you would need a CDL to transport it. DOT does not **** around with rules and they dont give a **** what you say or what you didnt know.
I literally have no idea what any of this says.
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:04 PM   #1480
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Its my job to know that ****.



DOT/NHTSA has more rules than most know what to do with.
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:32 PM   #1481
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CDL for over 26,000 is not a myth. Also 26,000 is for the combined weight of the truck and the trailer and or the traler has to be under 10,000 lbs.

The MYTH is that you need a CDL for non personal use over 26,000 / 10,000 trailer. What you do need is a NON CDL CLASS A for a trailer over 26,000 / 10,000 or a Class B for over 26,000 with no trailer.

AFAIK it is the same road test as a CDL

Between you and Lbo im not sure what to do with myself.
Thats correct, and I probably should have stated it differently. The 26k gets applied as a blanket limit for "Oh, you need a CDL". No, you dont. Not if its for personal use. This is straight from the NC CDL handbook:

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a CDL. However, a non-CDL Class A or B license may still be
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1.8: Exemptions and Waivers
• Vehicles used for personal use such as recreational vehicles.
Basically what the DOT has told me is that with a "NOT FOR HIRE" on the side, youre good to go. Over 26k will require the Class A NON CDL.


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Dont get caught whatever you do, in VA its around $1 for every 100 pounds over. If you get caught they may put the truck/trailer out of service and or make you get it towed away.

Also I believe NON CDL trailers hauling cars / whatever over 26,000/10,000 require a "not for hire" sticker on the trailer. Otherwise it would be considered a for hire trailer and thus you would need a CDL to transport it. DOT does not **** around with rules and they dont give a **** what you say or what you didnt know.
Unfortunately, the DOT cant differentiate between a weighted tag and a commercial tag either.

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DOT/NHTSA has more rules than most know what to do with.
Yeah, and the problem is you can ask three different people and get three different answers.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:14 PM   #1482
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Cobb released AP numbers last night, Stage 1 93 tune +12hp +52lb tq
I think the SCT tune is a lot more aggressive but COBB does keep reliability as an important factor.

http://www.sctflash.com/Newsletter/FocusST.html
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:20 PM   #1483
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I'm still trying to figure out what CDLs and towing weights have to do with a Focus ST.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:27 PM   #1484
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I think the SCT tune is a lot more aggressive but COBB does keep reliability as an important factor.

http://www.sctflash.com/Newsletter/FocusST.html
SCT is fairly well known to be good for the trucks. I can't imagine they would stake that reputation on putting out something that was crap.

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I'm still trying to figure out what CDLs and towing weights have to do with a Focus ST.
How much can the ST tow on a fifth wheel?
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:47 PM   #1485
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We bought ours in May 2010. While I really like my King Ranch, it will probably be on the chopping block.....

For an F-350/F-450 King Ranch dually.
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Why not just a F250 SD?

or is 16,000 lbs not enough.
Thanks to these two shipping war wannabes.

http://www.aetv.com/shipping-wars/
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:23 PM   #1486
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saw a red one in person today in the other lane driving toward me.... holy **** that car looks fantastic.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:16 AM   #1487
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So, the ST is 3200lbs.

Furd, why yur crs be so fat?


That's less than an STi.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:33 AM   #1488
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I think the SCT tune is a lot more aggressive but COBB does keep reliability as an important factor.

http://www.sctflash.com/Newsletter/FocusST.html
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2013 FOCUS ST 2.0L Ecoboost Features: SCT Tuned Data
SCT Tuned - 93 Octane Dyno Pull @ 185 degrees fahrenheit: 253.00 FWHP / 323.99 ft-lbs FWTQ
SCT Tuned - Gain Over Stock @ 185 degrees fahrenheit: +22.73 FWHP / +45.21 ft-lbs FWTQ
SCT Tuned - 93 Octane Dyno Pull @ 202 degrees fahrenheit: 241.44 FWHP / 316.88 ft-lbs FWTQ
SCT Tuned - Gain Over Stock @ 202 degrees fahrenheit: +24.76 FWHP / +76.41 ft-lbs FWTQ
Am I reading this right, the hotter the car got the more power and tq it produced? Like an extra +31fwtq?

Edit: I see now, they're looking at the stock 202 after the loss.

Where can I buy this?
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:49 AM   #1489
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That's less than an STi.
AWD vs FWD
Apples/oranges


That said, I still want a 2700lb 180hp Fiesta ST.
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:10 AM   #1490
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saw a red one in person today in the other lane driving toward me.... holy **** that car looks fantastic.
I still don't get this. I think the current Focus is hideous from the front. The hood line is hideous and cheap looking.. the fish mouth grille is hideous... the headlights are bulbous, ugly and look tacked on.. the previous model (Euro Focus) was a nicely designed (and understated) car.. the new one looks like a retarded guppy from the front to me. The taillights of the new Focus looks better than the old MPV-style D Pillar tails.. but still loses points with me for being a bit too bulbous.


http://i.imgur.com/JxuBs.png
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http://i.imgur.com/VrUJ2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/A6iCu.jpg

It lost the sharp lines and traded them in on Ford Taurus curves.

But, opinions are like ********,.. ...I am one.

Don't get me wrong.. great car... would own.
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:13 AM   #1491
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That little panel between the rear quarter and the taillight annoys me.

But, I, too, am an *******.

I say the ST is a fatty because it is almost 200 lbs more than a 6MT GTI... which certainly isn't a lightweight. (Referencing recent Autoblog review). It apparently drives yards better than the GTI, but loses out on interior room and overall styling.
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:22 AM   #1492
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That little panel between the rear quarter and the taillight annoys me.

But, I, too, am an *******.

I say the ST is a fatty because it is almost 200 lbs more than a 6MT GTI... which certainly isn't a lightweight. (Referencing recent Autoblog review). It apparently drives yards better than the GTI, but loses out on interior room and overall styling.
That panel is the gas filler door.

Also the car has no gas cap, it has advanced anti-siphoning technology!
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:22 AM   #1493
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All new cars are too heavy.

Its a tragedy
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:27 AM   #1494
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All new cars are too heavy.

Its a tragedy
It's politics.

What's this car weight in Euro form? I'm guessing they don't have all the nanny gear?
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:28 AM   #1495
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That little panel between the rear quarter and the taillight annoys me.

But, I, too, am an *******.

I say the ST is a fatty because it is almost 200 lbs more than a 6MT GTI... which certainly isn't a lightweight. (Referencing recent Autoblog review). It apparently drives yards better than the GTI, but loses out on interior room and overall styling.
It's also 100lbs heavier than a RS or WRX, but isn't a steaming pile of turd inside.
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:29 AM   #1496
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That panel is the gas filler door.

Also the car has no gas cap, it has advanced anti-siphoning technology!
Makes a lot more sense. Drove me crazy.

I wanted to siphone your gas.
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:31 AM   #1497
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It's also 100lbs heavier than a RS or WRX, but isn't a steaming pile of turd inside.
GTI is amazing inside. The ST in non-black is flat out tacky inside. The new GTI is supposed to be even lighter.

My RS was 2870 lbs.
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:35 AM   #1498
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GTI is amazing inside. The ST in non-black is flat out tacky inside. The new GTI is supposed to be even lighter.

My RS was 2870 lbs.
I don't know if its completely tacky, but it is very busy. Once inside the car esthetics are brilliant. I find myself constantly moving my hands around the steering wheel as every position feels better than the last.

My biggest gripe is the coin holders allow change to be exposed and rattle.
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And at no point driving this car do I think or feel, "if it were just 200lbs lighter". The steering and turn in feels like a go kart honestly.

The wheel doesn't even clock around, I think full lock is about 7/8 of a turn.
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I was mostly talking about the color matched seats. That is why I said non-black.
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