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11-16-2017, 02:21 PM | #26 |
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2018 Mazda6 gets more power, efficiency to go with updated looks
We have a 6 speed manual 2016 Mazda 6 and it is a great car, albeit underpowered. Hopefully the extra available power will be mated to a manual transmission as well. It’s tough to find a cheaper, nice, good looking, gas sipping sedan that is still available with a 6 speed manual transmission. Mazda gets driving. We were interested in an Accord, but wifey said no manual, NO Honda.
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11-16-2017, 02:25 PM | #27 |
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Miata/86 aside, affordable RWD tends to be put in a heavier platform anyways. How much fun is there to be had in a 250 hp 4k lb car? Is a V6 Charger considerably more fun to drive than a GTI?
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11-16-2017, 02:47 PM | #28 |
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I can tell you without a doubt... NO.
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11-16-2017, 02:58 PM | #29 | |
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I am apparently not the "vast majority" of the enthusiast world, I grew up on FR with no nannies, So that is my preference, full time "50:50" AWD with a big rear bar and no nannies is a compromise, driver controlled AWD with a driver controlled rear bias would be the optimal compromise if I can't have RWD (and would perform better than RWD in all conceivable situations, but that's doesn't mean it's more fun). We are talking about a subjective item "fun" I can accept that other people enjoy FWD, clearly, they don't have to accept that I don't, but I'm not going to keep my mouth shut about it, and I'm certainly not going to agree that FWD can be fun for me, or for all. I like to shift my own gears and steer with the pedal, I don't see that changing any time soon. I also prefer physical controls to a touch screen, mechanical diffs to ABS derived systems, pedal control to traction control, and lighter cars with less power to fatty's with more power, you know, just in case you need some more fuel. |
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11-16-2017, 03:11 PM | #30 |
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Man I will throw out the GTI and mazdaspeed3 as incredibly awesome examples as fun to drive daily vehicles. Now you are allowed your biases and I am not trying to talk you into anything bud. You are free to like what you are accustomed to. But when I drive a GTI I cant stop smiling.
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11-16-2017, 03:56 PM | #31 |
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Craziness. Mini Cooper S and GTI were super fun drives for me, and I'm a Subaru fan boi.
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11-16-2017, 04:00 PM | #32 | |
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11-16-2017, 04:13 PM | #33 |
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peace bro... You know yourself better than we all do. I wish you all the best... Will enjoy whatever you pick I am sure.
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11-16-2017, 07:20 PM | #34 |
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Maybe theyll introduce some type of rear wheel steering
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11-17-2017, 04:33 AM | #35 |
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I was speaking with the head Mazda rep, at the Seattle auto show press day. He sorta hesitated a second when I mentioned I would love a Mazda 3 hatch with RWD and a 2.5 liter as a Mazda speed option. I'm betting the 2.5 Mazdaspeed comment hit close to home on this reveal.
He also did it again when I said I wanted an RX-5 rotary Miata. Fingers crossed.. |
11-17-2017, 11:11 AM | #36 |
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When the CX-9 launched they noted the engine was designed so it would fit in their entire lineup (sans Miata). Glad to see they're following through on that!
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11-17-2017, 11:15 AM | #37 | |
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11-17-2017, 11:43 AM | #38 |
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11-17-2017, 04:04 PM | #39 |
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Sincerely hope they bring over the AWD drivetrain to the Mazda 6 as well. It's already offered as AWD in Japan (and perhaps other markets).
They also get a wagon variant as well, which I know we'll never get... |
11-17-2017, 08:57 PM | #40 | |
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Seriously, I hope it sells well. The other Skyactiv engines turned out to be a bit underwhelming. It would be really cool if they brought over a wagon with AWD and this engine, but that's just crazy talk... |
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11-18-2017, 12:20 AM | #41 | |
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They have special manufacturing lines that handle all the different-sized engines. The tool that tightens all the spark plugs at the same time expands and contracts to fit any one of their engines. Because Mazda. |
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11-18-2017, 02:09 AM | #42 |
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11-18-2017, 02:22 AM | #43 | |
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11-18-2017, 03:02 AM | #44 | |
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11-18-2017, 03:46 PM | #45 |
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The Mazda 6 wagon looks awesome, I knew they made them, but of course not for us!
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11-18-2017, 05:28 PM | #46 |
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11-18-2017, 11:55 PM | #47 | |
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Camry and Civic LX customers Subaru, and I'll keep spending my money elsewhere and convincing those around me to do the same. |
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11-19-2017, 03:17 AM | #48 |
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Not really sure what "killing it" really means then if Mazda also doesn't offer a sport hatch with a turbo and manual? Does it mean that Mazda has potential to do even greater things than what they currently offer?
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11-19-2017, 03:31 AM | #49 | |
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Even if Legacy gets the job done overall, Mazda6 is, a sportier, more entertaining/satisfying car to drive. It's something Subaru has almost completely lost track of with Legacy. IMO, Mazda6 only has 3 issues compared to Legacy: rear legroom, rear headroom and overall cabin noise. Other than the above, IMO, Mazda6 is a better car overall. |
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11-19-2017, 09:20 AM | #50 |
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Maybe "killing it" was a bit vague. The only advantage, and its really not much of one for the region I live in, that the Impreza hatch has over the 3, is the AWD. Looks department and interior feel the Mazda won in my fiance's eye. If I were in the market, I'd take the 6 over any of the competitors. I was more complaining to Justy about my disdain for Subaru's alienation of it's turbo hatch customers. But to sum it up: for non turbo cars, in my non snowy region, they've got nothing favorable over Mazda.
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