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View Poll Results: What would be the best for me?
Previa 13 16.25%
Astrovan 7 8.75%
Eurovan 7 8.75%
Legacy Wagon 37 46.25%
Something I haven't thought of yet... 16 20.00%
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Old 09-10-2009, 12:48 AM   #1
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My Audi is up for sale, and I am looking for something to replace it with. I was going to just get a mid-90s Legacy wagon, but then started thinking about a van.

Here is what I want out of my next vehicle: Room for camping/kayaking and all gear, being able to sleep in it is a major bonus (seats that fold into a bed a major plus), 20ish mpg or better, no trucks, reliable and inexpensive to fix, nothing too big, budget under $4000 at the absolute most.

Here are the finalists:

Toyota Previa 1995-97ish- hard to find an AWD one, don't know if seats fold into bed
Example: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/1356923845.html

Astrovan 1996ish- AWD, don't know if seats fold into bed (example wouldn't)
Example: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/1366636726.html

1993 Eurovan- questionable reliability, nice bed, not as cookie cutter as the others
Example: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/1366179376.html

Of course the Subaru Legacy- AWD, familiar with working on a Subaru, reliable, can't sleep in one very well at all
Example: http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/ctd/1366374998.html

What else am I missing? Plusses and minuses of each? Thoughts? Opinions?


Edit: NO AEROSTAR!!! Damn minivan........
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Old 09-10-2009, 12:50 AM   #2
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I know an Aerostar for sale. Gives good head too.
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Old 09-10-2009, 12:50 AM   #3
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Old 09-10-2009, 12:51 AM   #4
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1999+ honda odyssey. drives great, 4drs, rear seats fold into floor, middle row is removeable, cargo space is long and wide.
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Old 09-10-2009, 12:53 AM   #6
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White Chevy free candy van, with no windows.
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Old 09-10-2009, 12:56 AM   #8
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1999+ honda odyssey. drives great, 4drs, rear seats fold into floor, middle row is removeable, cargo space is long and wide.
All of them that are '99 and newer are over $4k around here. Older ones no good?
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Old 09-10-2009, 01:07 AM   #9
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older ones are smaller and don't have the 4drs. my parents have a 99 and it's not bad to drive around at all. tracks really well, great turning radius, and doesn't feel as big as it is. most around here have 125k+ miles and go for $5-6k as well. there was an issue with the trans but honda replaced them under warranty. a new trans goes for $2500 and is the only issue my parents have had in the 196k miles we've driven it.
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Old 09-10-2009, 01:07 AM   #10
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The Astro is probably the largest. You can find them in AWD but RWD is most common. The V6 motor is decent but working on it is a royal PITA.
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Anyone know if you can fold seats down into a bed in a Previa or an Astrovan?
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Old 09-10-2009, 01:35 AM   #12
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Pontiac Aztec. You can even get the camper attachment for it. If you spend more than a few hundred bucks on a mint one you spent too much.
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Old 09-10-2009, 01:39 AM   #13
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No beds in Previas. They're also god-awful to work on (engine is mounted beneath the driver's seat). Available with AWD and a supercharger, but.. meh. They all 'ave a million miles on them and they're a PITA to work on.

Why not just get a cheap Subaru wagon with a tow hitch.. and tow a small pop-up camper trailer (since you don't sound too keen on the whole camping-in-a-tent thing)?
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Old 09-10-2009, 01:47 AM   #14
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I used to have an '87 Toyota Van. It had the same hard to work on mid engine, and that did suck.

I don't want to deal with a trailer, I have all the tent camping stuff for hiking and mountaineering, but for kayaking trips and such, especially in bad weather, it is really nice to just crawl into the back and sleep, especially with a wife and a kid along. Nobody likes sleeping in a tent with a kid in the pooring rain during the winter in the mountains around Seattle.

Might still go with the Legacy, but that would probably mean that I would stay home instead of going on some trips that I would go on with a van.
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Old 09-10-2009, 02:10 AM   #15
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The choice here is obvious.

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How about a Mazda MPV 1990-1997 or a Nissan Quest from 1993-1998?

Pretty decent vehicles and don't have the Toyota/Honda tax. There's also the Mitsubishi Expo/Plymouth Colt Vista, but they're hard to find and I'm not sure about how dependable they are.
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Old 09-10-2009, 04:37 AM   #17
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previa... mid-engine minivan ftw
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Old 09-10-2009, 06:45 AM   #18
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DO NOT GET A VAN!!!!

I had a van after I totaled my Outback... Worst vehicle EVER! I was able to get rid of it and score a 2009 2.5i.








For the record, I had an Aerostar :/
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Old 09-10-2009, 07:34 AM   #19
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No beds in Previas. They're also god-awful to work on (engine is mounted beneath the driver's seat). Available with AWD and a supercharger, but.. meh. They all 'ave a million miles on them and they're a PITA to work on.

Why not just get a cheap Subaru wagon with a tow hitch.. and tow a small pop-up camper trailer (since you don't sound too keen on the whole camping-in-a-tent thing)?
I was at a local junkyard other day and saw a bunch of CFC'd cars...two of them were Previa AWD. One of them was in great exterior and interior conditon with only 117k miles . What a shame.
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The Eurovan is a good choice if you can find one with a manual trans. The auto trannys are unlreliable POSs. The engines are reliable. The one you linked to is a 'Weekender'. The older ones outfitted by Westfalia are much nicer than the later ones outfitted by Winnebago.
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How about a Mazda MPV 1990-1997 or a Nissan Quest from 1993-1998?
both POSs. parents had 1 of each for their shop, both drive like ****, and interior space is cramped. i'm not sure if the rear seats in the mpv are removable, but even if you could remove it, there's a huge hump in the back because of the rear axle i guess.
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