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Old 11-14-2003, 01:58 PM   #1
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i just noticed this today..

normally you cannot set the CC higher than 80 mph. you CAN however set it at 80 and then use the RES/ACC feature to go faster. this is a pain in the ass.

what i tried was to manually cruise at the speed i wanted to travel, press the control lever down, to SET the speed, then immediately move it up to RES/ACC, then release. so instead of just down-release, go down-up-release.

with this technique, i was able to quickly and easily set my speed at a nice smooth 87mph on my way down I-95 today.

car is an 03, fwiw.

try it out! i'm interested to hear if it works for others.

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Old 11-14-2003, 02:05 PM   #2
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If you're driving that fast, you shouldn't be using CC anyways.

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Old 11-14-2003, 03:15 PM   #3
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If you're driving that fast, you shouldn't be using CC anyways.
Yeah, agreed. Unless you're in Nebraska or Arkansas.
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Old 11-14-2003, 04:13 PM   #4
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apparently you guys have never driven in new england, where 80+ mph is going with the flow of traffic.

thanks for the morality lesson though.. that's what this thread was REALLY about. or maybe you're going to try to convince me that CC @ 80mph is ok, but 87 isn't? or that the car isn't safe and predictable at those speeds?

give me a break!
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Old 11-14-2003, 05:11 PM   #5
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To be honest with you, I don't think CC should be used period. I never use mine and if I had the option to remove it to save money when I bought my car, I would have. CC lets you relax to much IMHO.

As for driving in the New England area, I drive ~150 miles per day to/from work and average around 80-85mph. At those speeds, I would not want to use CC as there are too many unknowns, i.e. deer, other drivers, road debris, cops, etc. It's not a matter of whether the car is safe and predictable at those speeds, but whether or not the split second it takes you and the car to disengage CC will result in an accident or not at those speeds.

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Old 11-14-2003, 05:49 PM   #6
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I posted the same topic 18 months ago and got my ass flamed off...
Forget setting the CC above whatever speed it will....
Mine will set at ~89, tops.
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Old 11-14-2003, 07:18 PM   #7
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with this technique, i was able to quickly and easily set my speed at a nice smooth 87mph on my way down I-95 today.
I have usually been able to set my CC at about 85-87.. somewhere in that range. You can hold the accel longer and it keeps going faster but as soon as you release the lever, it falls back down to 87.
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Old 11-14-2003, 09:31 PM   #8
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apparently you guys have never driven in new england, where 80+ mph is going with the flow of traffic.

thanks for the morality lesson though.. that's what this thread was REALLY about. or maybe you're going to try to convince me that CC @ 80mph is ok, but 87 isn't? or that the car isn't safe and predictable at those speeds?

give me a break!
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Before you get upset, try driving around Chicago where the average speed on the highway system is 90. Of course, the average IQ of other drivers on the road is about the same, and only drops when people are using cruise control because it gives them an excuse to pay even LESS attention to the road.
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Old 11-14-2003, 09:45 PM   #9
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Yeah, agreed. Unless you're in Nebraska or Arkansas
You forgot Utah. Now there's a state that's taking up space.

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Old 11-15-2003, 12:24 AM   #10
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You forgot Utah. Now there's a state that's taking up space.

O come on! How can you say that. I love this place. Did you know that this state has one of the longest straight aways in the US? Awsome.

I can set mine ~90 91. (Montana)

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Old 11-15-2003, 04:47 AM   #11
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O come on! How can you say that. I love this place. Did you know that this state has one of the longest straight aways in the US? Awsome.
Yeah, isn't it called the salt flats?
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Old 11-15-2003, 10:24 AM   #12
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Why in the hell do all you guys have to always flame people for questions they ask that you dont like. If you read the dang post and you dont like it...... dont post and leave. If he wants to go over 80 with cruise control then so be it. I dont do it but you dont hear me saying "Oh man you know thats stupid to go over 80 with cruise control." You know, why cant you people keep your opinions to yourself and just answer his question. Here is a sample post that probably wouldnt upset him and would still get your point across:

Ride5000,

Well you can probably try finding the highest speed that it will take you to by just setting the cruise and then using the accel button. This might work, although, I dont reccomend this because you never you what what idiots are going to pull out in front of you. But if you do, keep safe and aware on the roads man!!! Cheers.

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PS. I am sorry for the rant, it is just very annoying to see people just think that they know it all and no one else has as much wisdom as them. Come on now cant we all just get along. HAHA
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Old 11-15-2003, 10:58 AM   #13
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It's a public board where people can express their opinions. The same can be said about your post. . .if you don't like what you're reading, then stop reading and look at another post.

As for not liking what I read, part of it is true as I don't want someone getting in to an accident driving at those speeds with CC on and increasing my insurance rates. The other part is that I wouldn't want to see anyone hurt period. It's like if someone posted a question on what the most effective way to commit suicide is. Would you just tell him how to do it and not try to discourage it?

You obviously don't like what you're reading in this post so don't be a hypocrite. You should have not posted and just left based on your recommendation.

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Old 11-15-2003, 11:23 AM   #14
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Calvin,
I answered the guy's question to the best of my ability, thank you. I also gave my opinion that the fact that you guys are changing the topic of the thread. I did not however flame THE POSTER of the topic. That is the key! My friend I am far from a hypocrite. I do not mean to further change the topic. So, from now on this can be taken to PM's. cnk I don't mind people simply expressing their opinions. It just seems like people think that they know it all. I dont understand why we cant just be helpful enthusiasts and NOT SOMEONE'S NANNY. He is a big boy and deserves to be able to go however fast he pleases. I am done with this thread.

I am not really like this most of the time, it just bothers me when people are hateful towards people for no apparent reason.

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Old 11-15-2003, 12:37 PM   #15
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To be honest with you, I don't think CC should be used period. I never use mine and if I had the option to remove it to save money when I bought my car, I would have. CC lets you relax to much IMHO.

As for driving in the New England area, I drive ~150 miles per day to/from work and average around 80-85mph. At those speeds, I would not want to use CC as there are too many unknowns, i.e. deer, other drivers, road debris, cops, etc. It's not a matter of whether the car is safe and predictable at those speeds, but whether or not the split second it takes you and the car to disengage CC will result in an accident or not at those speeds.

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if you're basing your opinion on the fact that CC does tend to reduce driver input, thereby reducing driver attention, then yes, it is more dangerous. to that end, so is singing along to the radio, talking to other people in the car, or on the cell phone, or even checking out the hot girl in the black m3 you just passed.

if you're basing your opinion on the fact that letting the ECU control the throttle inherently increases the reaction time of a driver, i would wholeheartedly disagree with you.

clearly, paying attention to what you're doing is important while the car is in motion. the faster you go, the more you have to pay attention. fwiw, when i drive at higher rates of speed, the radio is off, the windows are up, the cell phone is put away, and i pay attention. this is how i have had neither an accident nor a moving violation in 7 years, and still manage to drive around at quite high rates of speed. it's not all luck.

somehow, when i wrote the original post, i thought i didn't have to add that driving requires a certain level of concentration and mental involvement. silly me!

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what the hell are you n00bs fighting about now?
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Old 11-15-2003, 08:34 PM   #17
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Calvin,
I answered the guy's question to the best of my ability, thank you. I also gave my opinion that the fact that you guys are changing the topic of the thread. I did not however flame THE POSTER of the topic. That is the key! My friend I am far from a hypocrite. I do not mean to further change the topic. So, from now on this can be taken to PM's. cnk I don't mind people simply expressing their opinions. It just seems like people think that they know it all. I dont understand why we cant just be helpful enthusiasts and NOT SOMEONE'S NANNY. He is a big boy and deserves to be able to go however fast he pleases. I am done with this thread.

I am not really like this most of the time, it just bothers me when people are hateful towards people for no apparent reason.

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RJ,

If you read my responses to his posts, they are directed at him with no flames. Purely stating that you shouldn't be using CC if you're going to be driving that fast in the first place. The second post is in direct response to his next post. I do not profess to know it all and just like you. . I was expressing my opinion. As I stated before, this is a public forum where we are entitled to do that. Just as you have stated your opinion, I have stated mine.

I disagree with what he wants to do. You disagree with my opinion of this. You're free to do so. . .after all. . it's a public forum. Believe me. . if I wanted to be hateful towards the original poster. . I would have laid in to him and you would know it.

As for the hypocrite comment, how are you not being a hypocrite if you tell me in one post that "if you don't like what you're reading, then stop reading and look at another post" and then proceed to complain about the thread and post a response? If you didn't like it. . move on. But I digress as it is a public forum.

QED

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if you're basing your opinion on the fact that CC does tend to reduce driver input, thereby reducing driver attention, then yes, it is more dangerous. to that end, so is singing along to the radio, talking to other people in the car, or on the cell phone, or even checking out the hot girl in the black m3 you just passed.

if you're basing your opinion on the fact that letting the ECU control the throttle inherently increases the reaction time of a driver, i would wholeheartedly disagree with you.

clearly, paying attention to what you're doing is important while the car is in motion. the faster you go, the more you have to pay attention. fwiw, when i drive at higher rates of speed, the radio is off, the windows are up, the cell phone is put away, and i pay attention. this is how i have had neither an accident nor a moving violation in 7 years, and still manage to drive around at quite high rates of speed. it's not all luck.

somehow, when i wrote the original post, i thought i didn't have to add that driving requires a certain level of concentration and mental involvement. silly me!

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In the end, it's your life. . do as you will. As for your second comment, when you have CC activated, most people don't leave their feet directly over the gas pedal or brake pedal. If you had to stop or accelerate for any emergency reason, there is delay added for the time for you to get your foot to the correct pedal. So, unless you drive with your foot over either pedal, it will increase your reaction time.

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Calvin,
Ok man, well I think that most of the people in this thread know what I mean including the poster. I dont think that you are flaming him. I dont really wanna discuss this stupidness anymore. I am tired of arguing. You know what I meant by what I said. CNK you won though man, I am throwing in the towel.

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Okay, back on topic.

1. I have never tried to use my CC above 74 mph. At speeds higher than that, I NEED my decelleration to help me avoid potential speeding tickets.

2. I have driven in New England. The 495 beltway around washington DC and northern virginia has the combination of highest speed and highest traffic that I have experienced. In chicago, I am rarely passed. Maybe once a year. Highway 94 is my own personal highspeed track -- I love it!

The DC beltway is a different story. I will never forget being passed by a black 600 S class with a Maryland license plate "LATE." I was going 90, and so cocky that I never saw the Benz coming. That car went by me going so fast that I didn't even try to catch up to it. I remember driving in formation at >100 mph with 4 other cars across 5 lanes. (I miss that road).

NE is a congested area. Why bother using CC if you have to keep your foot hovering over the brake/gas pedal? To use CC at high speeds is like asking for lethal injection. The entire point of CC is to be able to rest your foot when you are in a low traffic area and can maintain a contant speed.


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i never noticed.

i never set it higher than 79.
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And for the record, I tried it today and was able to set mine at 103mph (I didn't try any faster). Must be the new CC units that they started using on WRX's, I'm fairly sure the RS's still have the same external o
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In the end, it's your life. . do as you will. As for your second comment, when you have CC activated, most people don't leave their feet directly over the gas pedal or brake pedal. If you had to stop or accelerate for any emergency reason, there is delay added for the time for you to get your foot to the correct pedal. So, unless you drive with your foot over either pedal, it will increase your reaction time.

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dude, you're talking out of your hat.

you have absolutely no proof whatsoever that the time it takes to physically move your right foot to the brake pedal is longer when your foot is not on the accelerator pedal. don't you think the NHTSB would be interested in that kind of information? or insurance companies, for that matter? (got CC on your car? here's a special fee tacked on since it increases accidents.) that's absurd.

if you're a complete moron and go zipping through traffic, or areas where there's insufficient visibility for the speed you're traveling--CRUISE CONTROL OR NO--then you deserve to get into an accident.

i take great issue with your desire to lump me in with these morons. you don't know me, how i drive, or where i chose to exceed the speed limit.

this whole conversation has been utterly derailed by overzealous people with nothing better to do on this board than interject totally unnecessary comments, and then attempt to defend thier tenuous positions by pulling "facts" out of thin air.

have a nice day,
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actually if I use CC that means I know EXACTLY what speed i'm going without glancing at my speedo.

that means more time to pay attention to the ROAD.

getting my foot to the brake from the floor below the gas pedal doesn't take any additional amount of time in compared to what it does from the gas pedal soooooo. also I keep my hands in racing positino with my pinkie on the off switch which I use as soon as I go for the brake.

I'll take CC any day. I'm convinced i'm safer and ticket-free on long highway cruizes for it.
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dude, you're talking out of your hat.

you have absolutely no proof whatsoever that the time it takes to physically move your right foot to the brake pedal is longer when your foot is not on the accelerator pedal. don't you think the NHTSB would be interested in that kind of information? or insurance companies, for that matter? (got CC on your car? here's a special fee tacked on since it increases accidents.) that's absurd.

if you're a complete moron and go zipping through traffic, or areas where there's insufficient visibility for the speed you're traveling--CRUISE CONTROL OR NO--then you deserve to get into an accident.

i take great issue with your desire to lump me in with these morons. you don't know me, how i drive, or where i chose to exceed the speed limit.

this whole conversation has been utterly derailed by overzealous people with nothing better to do on this board than interject totally unnecessary comments, and then attempt to defend thier tenuous positions by pulling "facts" out of thin air.

have a nice day,
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The whole reason for CC is so that you can rest your foot while driving. So if you are resting your foot on the floorboard instead of leaving it over/on the pedals as you would during driving, then it doesn't take a rocket scientist to prove that there is added delay for you to move your foot to the correct position. As for the NHTSB and insurance companies. . if you're driving that fast with or without CC on and you get in an accident, you most likely won't live through it and that's a fact coming from someone with 5 years of ambulance experience.

You are correct. . I don't know you. . and you don't know me. However, I do know that you want to use CC over the 80mph limit set on your CC unit. That alone qualifies you as a dangerous driver in my mind.

As for this whole conversation, I feel as if it shouldn't have been posted in the first place since driving 25+ mph over the speed limit is considered as wreckless driving in most states. That's a fact. If you choose to speed then that is your decision. If you choose to speed with the CC turned on. . that's your choice as well.

You've heard my opinion and if you don't like it that's your choice. . it's a free country and a public board.

In the same line as your last comment, I'm sick and tired of all these noobies posting about dangerous and totally unnecessary things that they can do with their cars and then hoping that those on the boards will help to justify their actions by agreeing with their reasons.

I'm done with this thread. . .do as you will and I'll say a prayer when I see you on the evening news.

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