2022 Subaru WRX Official Announcement *Merged*

[samagon]

Originally Posted by Russ_G93

I definitely dont like the lady scuffin the exposed plastic with her boots from time to time *Pulls out Armorall wipes, and completely ignores gravel road knicks to and from the house*

you could be the first to install rock rails to replace those plastic skirts.

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[SoDealer]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

Big oof.

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Indeed

[rallly 4]

Originally Posted by SoDealer

Indeed

I know it’s a 3 Cyl how stupid can someone be to actually believe the person who BOUGHT the car doesn’t know what engine it has.


What do YOU drive? NOTHING worth talking about. Don’t throw shade at cars you can’t buy hater

[neg_matnik]

Originally Posted by rallly 4

I know it’s a 3 Cyl how stupid can someone be to actually believe the person who BOUGHT the car doesn’t know what engine it has.


What do YOU drive? NOTHING worth talking about. Don’t throw shade at cars you can’t buy hater

I haven't been here as long as others; but SoDealer very rarely brings up what he drives or rides. He seems to be all about the economics of the car business (marketing, sales performance, brand health/recognition,...).
I think he does have the means to buy whatever he wants though; he just doesn't talk about it much.

[JustyWRC]

Originally Posted by Snow Drift

WRX March 2023 sales - 3,005 units

WRX March 2022 sales - 204 units

WRX March 2021 sales - 2,290 units

WRX is up +31% over 2021 sales. The next highest March was 2018, with 3,028.

Not too shabby coming in just 23 cars short, eh? And only 45 off the record March. And 2341 of those were WRX. The rest STI. Lets see how this month goes now.

Originally Posted by rallly 4

I know it's a 3 Cyl how stupid can someone be to actually believe the person who BOUGHT the car doesn't know what engine it has.


What do YOU drive? NOTHING worth talking about. Don't throw shade at cars you can't buy hater

Oh, I can certainly be wrong; but, thought I remember you liking the car initially?

Now, I understand that once you started playing with it, you didn't like it as much; but, if you had said anything positive about it to "worst turbo engine", something is off track here.

And no, I'm not arguing it's the best and certainly not better than that 4cyl gem either.

It woulda been easier to apologize about the typo and correct it than to act like someone pissed in your cereal.

[neg_matnik]

Originally Posted by Snow Drift

Cali flat brim stance guys must love the cladding.

The cladding is easier to overlook when there's up to $4K of incentive on premium/limited/GT trims.
That's enough money to get the cladding sorted; Subaru has been listening .
Now, the question is what's going to happen with '23 WRXs that are incoming.

[Snow Drift]

Originally Posted by neg_matnik

The cladding is easier to overlook when there's up to $4K of incentive on premium/limited/GT trims.
That's enough money to get the cladding sorted; Subaru has been listening .
Now, the question is what's going to happen with '23 WRXs that are incoming.

I guess if your 2018-2019 WRX went off lease, and you wanted a new car, the 2022 is an option. But the $4k off MSRP has always been close to the norm. So, those same buyers expected that discount. Not sure if they then want to pay up to fix the cladding. Obviously, some are. I'm sure some have spent $5k on a full wrap.

[jimbobjohnbrown]

Originally Posted by rallly 4

Yea I know that***8230;.it was a typo bud. I meant to write it was better than any 4 Cyl engine.

Remind me, what do you drive again? You're the NASIOC CEO so it must be something special

Why the vitriol, the dude was simply correcting your "typo". He didn't make a snide comment, just a direct correction.


Why does (almost) everyone on this forum suck so bad?!?

The reputation NASIOC has is well earned.


Oh, and congrats on the GRC. Definitely a cool car.

[jimbobjohnbrown]

Originally Posted by neg_matnik

The cladding is easier to overlook when there's up to $4K of incentive on premium/limited/GT trims.
That's enough money to get the cladding sorted; Subaru has been listening .
Now, the question is what's going to happen with '23 WRXs that are incoming.

2023s are the same as the 2022s. My guess is that the 2024s will have some sort of revised exterior styling. Personally, I like the cladding, it's the back bumper that needs some re-working.



And some dealers are also discounting base models as well. Good time to buy.

[rallly 4]

Originally Posted by JustyWRC

Not too shabby coming in just 23 cars short, eh? And only 45 off the record March. And 2341 of those were WRX. The rest STI. Lets see how this month goes now.



Oh, I can certainly be wrong; but, thought I remember you liking the car initially?

Now, I understand that once you started playing with it, you didn't like it as much; but, if you had said anything positive about it to "worst turbo engine", something is off track here.

And no, I'm not arguing it's the best and certainly not better than that 4cyl gem either.

It woulda been easier to apologize about the typo and correct it than to act like someone pissed in your cereal.

The first few weeks were Ok, once the car was broken in and I started getting on it and driving it like a performance car I realized it IS NOT a performance car. The boost/fuel cut at 6k RPM is ridicylous, the car understeers horribly at the limit , the brakes were atrocious. I have had probably 20 performance cars in the last 5 years and that was the worst

[JustyWRC]

Originally Posted by rallly 4

The first few weeks were Ok, once the car was broken in and I started getting on it and driving it like a performance car I realized it IS NOT a performance car. The boost/fuel cut at 6k RPM is ridicylous, the car understeers horribly at the limit , the brakes were atrocious. I have had probably 20 performance cars in the last 5 years and that was the worst

I'm just short of laughing at this hatred of the 6100rpm limit. Only cause I haven't had the opportunity to just thrash one. With no limits. Ya know, like I own one. No reason to. I have driven it several times now in an angry fashion. Some of it around the Utah Motorsports complex. At no time on that track(or anywhere else) were we able to get it close to that redline. Well, I figured I just wasn't a good race driver(which I am certainly not, but have done some autox with my STis and WRX)But, I was trying to get to it to see if it was really this "problem" people are bitching about. Even when the pro driver took around when we had time to spare, neither did he. I'll hold on to my opinions about that. The rest? It's a better WRX than any previous one.....you just described it as every previous one has been.


And you'll need to list these performance cars you are comparing to. "Performance" car is kinda wide ranging.....we've debated what a "performance" car is on here to the N'th degree without too much agreement.

[Snow Drift]

Originally Posted by JustyWRC

I'm just short of laughing at this hatred of the 6100rpm limit. Only cause I haven't had the opportunity to just thrash one. With no limits. Ya know, like I own one. No reason to. I have driven it several times now in an angry fashion. Some of it around the Utah Motorsports complex. At no time on that track(or anywhere else) were we able to get it close to that redline. Well, I figured I just wasn't a good race driver(which I am certainly not, but have done some autox with my STis and WRX)But, I was trying to get to it to see if it was really this "problem" people are bitching about. Even when the pro driver took around when we had time to spare, neither did he. I'll hold on to my opinions about that. The rest? It's a better WRX than any previous one.....you just described it as every previous one has been.


And you'll need to list these performance cars you are comparing to. "Performance" car is kinda wide ranging.....we've debated what a "performance" car is on here to the N'th degree without too much agreement.

You drove on a race track and weren't able to hit redline?

You should have hit redline on almost every gear, every time you shifted. It's a race track. Hell, in 1st you can hit it in a parking lot.

[rallly 4]

Originally Posted by JustyWRC

I'm just short of laughing at this hatred of the 6100rpm limit. Only cause I haven't had the opportunity to just thrash one. With no limits. Ya know, like I own one. No reason to. I have driven it several times now in an angry fashion. Some of it around the Utah Motorsports complex. At no time on that track(or anywhere else) were we able to get it close to that redline. Well, I figured I just wasn't a good race driver(which I am certainly not, but have done some autox with my STis and WRX)But, I was trying to get to it to see if it was really this "problem" people are bitching about. Even when the pro driver took around when we had time to spare, neither did he. I'll hold on to my opinions about that. The rest? It's a better WRX than any previous one.....you just described it as every previous one has been.


And you'll need to list these performance cars you are comparing to. "Performance" car is kinda wide ranging.....we've debated what a "performance" car is on here to the N'th degree without too much agreement.

Compared to a 2005 sti, 2007 sti, 17 focus RS, 07 mazdaspeed3 , 06 evo IX MR, Audi RS3, VW R32 MK4/5, Golf R 7.5 to name a few that are comparable….. the car is a major disappointment . A GD plain WRX on modern rubber , are a much more fun drive than the VB. I’m a Subaru die hard, I collect the old STIs, I’m the first one to give them slack on products that are lacking compared to the competition. This car is unacceptable in every performance metric. There is NO WAY you drove one on track with the stock brake pads. The WORST brakes I’ve had on any car I’ve ever owned. Pretty sure they use outback brakes on the rear and last gen BRZ on the front.

[Straight6]

Originally Posted by jimbobjohnbrown

Why the vitriol, the dude was simply correcting your "typo". He didn't make a snide comment, just a direct correction.


Why does (almost) everyone on this forum suck so bad?!?

The reputation NASIOC has is well earned.


Oh, and congrats on the GRC. Definitely a cool car.

Take it as entertainment value, it is really worth a laugh or two. However, there is some good information here too. For example, the GR video posted on the previous page and some technical stuff from PrimeMotoring in reference to how much these engines can handle.

[JustyWRC]

Originally Posted by Snow Drift

You drove on a race track and weren't able to hit redline?

You should have hit redline on almost every gear, every time you shifted. It's a race track. Hell, in 1st you can hit it in a parking lot.

The power drops off well before then and you just "have" to shift. You wanna go faster? You're shifting "long" before 6100. The course that was laid out for us we never were able to get higher than 3rd. I've felt that "need" to shift even away from the track. I didn't hit redline on any of my "fast" cars unless I was drag racing. This isn't a drag race car.

Originally Posted by rallly 4

Compared to a 2005 sti, 2007 sti, 17 focus RS, 07 mazdaspeed3 , 06 evo IX MR, Audi RS3, VW R32 MK4/5, Golf R 7.5 to name a few that are comparable….. the car is a major disappointment . A GD plain WRX on modern rubber , are a much more fun drive than the VB. I’m a Subaru die hard, I collect the old STIs, I’m the first one to give them slack on products that are lacking compared to the competition. This car is unacceptable in every performance metric. There is NO WAY you drove one on track with the stock brake pads. The WORST brakes I’ve had on any car I’ve ever owned. Pretty sure they use outback brakes on the rear and last gen BRZ on the front.

Cars it's fair to compare to from your list:


Cars that are a different category from your list:
2005 STi
2007 STi
Focus RS
Mazdaspeed 3
EVO IX MR(especially the MR)
RS3
R32s
Golf R


Oh, wait. That's ALL of them. Now, had this been an STI and you didn't like trying to compare to those, I would have said nothing. This is just off base.


And driving it on a track.......wasn't a "race day". We weren't going lap after lap and the course that was laid out.....if you were doing it right......didn't require much braking. Down shifting did what was needed.


"Unacceptable"

[jimbobjohnbrown]

Originally Posted by Straight6

Take it as entertainment value, it is really worth a laugh or two. However, there is some good information here too. For example, the GR video posted on the previous page and some technical stuff from PrimeMotoring in reference to how much these engines can handle.

It's insanity is what it is, lol! I've never seen so many angry people in all of my life. Maybe I got soft, but I like when people are nice to each other

As far as the GRC, yeah, I do think it's capable of more (reliability aside), but why would anybody push the platform passed what it is? I think Toyota pretty much maxed it out (reliability wise), so you don't need to do more to it. And I think that was one of the biggest selling points for me with the GRC, modification not needed for maximum fun.

On the flip side, Subaru pretty much made the WRX as a platform that's meant to be modified, especially the VB with its under boosted settings and rather large displacement 2.4 liter 4 banger. In my opinion, it's a way for them to get out of warrantying blown engines, lol but what do I know.

I will not be modifying the car, the last time I did that with my VA, I had a hard time sleeping at night thinking about my warranty going bye-bye....

I actually think the VB is fine as is. It's by no means a race car, and if you push it hard, you might get disappointed. But for me, a little boost with a manual transmission and a car that can handle the turns quite well is all I need.

I will be upgrading the brake pads soon enough though, they do work when you stump on it, but you don't get any feel for the pedal. But no surprises there, the VA was just as bad with the brakes. What I find particularly odd is that the '23 Crosstrek I just traded in had very good brakes that had a nice initial bite, unlike the WRX.

[mikedotd]

https://www.thedrive.com/news/subaru...r-rest-of-2023

I won't be buying this WRX, and find the GRC more interesting, but numbers are numbers.

[mikedotd]

Double post bug strikes again.

[rallly 4]

Originally Posted by mikedotd

https://www.thedrive.com/news/subaru...r-rest-of-2023

I won't be buying this WRX, and find the GRC more interesting, but numbers are numbers.

Straight6 does the same thing. This is such a horrible article. Are you guys surprised it out sold the GRC? They are made at a smaller factory in limited numbers. They’re making 1500 GRCs for this model year total from what I understand. Less than half have been delivered. How is that a fair comparison?


Corvette outsells Ferrari 10:1 for the last 30 years..does that make the corvette a better car?

[SVX WRX]

Originally Posted by rallly 4

Corvette outsells Ferrari 10:1 for the last 30 years..does that make the corvette a better car?

yes, what is popular with idiots is better. see McDonald's and Budweiser ...

[mcarb002]

Originally Posted by rallly 4

I know it’s a 3 Cyl how stupid can someone be to actually believe the person who BOUGHT the car doesn’t know what engine it has.


What do YOU drive? NOTHING worth talking about. Don’t throw shade at cars you can’t buy hater

Would you kindly post a picture of your GRC with a sing that says rally4 Nasioc. Pics or it didn’t happen.

[chanomatik]

He doesn't have to prove anything to you with pictures. He'll prove it with words, bro.

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[Straight6]

This thread is a gift that keeps on giving. People getting salty over the WRX being very successful .

[chanomatik]

WRX has pretty much always been successful. Maybe 2008 is the only time it declined somewhat naturally. Doesn't mean one can't recognize where it can be improved. If enough people complain then Subaru will react accordingly. But if enough people just accept what's given to them, then Subaru isn't nearly as inclined to innovate.

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[Straight6]

There is no perfect car. There is little to complain about given the price point. Car makers are no longer investing in ICE vehicles. We are very fortunate that there is a performance sedan left on the market that offers a 6 speed manual and is very attainable with a ton of aftermarket support.