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Old 09-29-2023, 04:19 PM   #10976
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I was looking at the part numbers when I had my wheels off. They threw on Outback Front Brakes with BRZ rear's. The BRZ rears surprised me lmao
The VB is an Outback sedan, so that makes sense.
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Old 09-29-2023, 07:19 PM   #10977
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First time I've heard of the case blowing a hole out itself, yes. A little different from your usual split case Subaru gear failure.

It might be the most torque Subaru has thrown at that design.
Ah. That makes sense and would be a good reason to update.
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Old 09-30-2023, 11:45 AM   #10978
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I was looking at the part numbers when I had my wheels off. They threw on Outback Front Brakes with BRZ rear's. The BRZ rears surprised me lmao
Does this surprise you? They've shared parts across models basically forever. One item I like to bring up in this regard is the interior door handle. They all shared the exact same one for 20 years before the 2017 introduced the new one and the countdown for the next 20 years started.
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Old 09-30-2023, 04:11 PM   #10979
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Does this surprise you? They've shared parts across models basically forever. One item I like to bring up in this regard is the interior door handle. They all shared the exact same one for 20 years before the 2017 introduced the new one and the countdown for the next 20 years started.
A door handle is a bit different than placing CUV drivetrain parts on your flagship performance sedan. That’d be like Chevy using Equinox calipers on the Stingray. I’m glad the TR addresses brakes, which fade horrendously in their current form.
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Old 09-30-2023, 04:27 PM   #10980
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A door handle is a bit different than placing CUV drivetrain parts on your flagship performance sedan. That’d be like Chevy using Equinox calipers on the Stingray. I’m glad the TR addresses brakes, which fade horrendously in their current form.
Go check how many shared parts the SVX had.....
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Old 09-30-2023, 05:17 PM   #10981
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Go check how many shared parts the SVX had.....
I hear the WRX has had Impreza parts since MY2002…and even some Fozzy bits.
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Old 09-30-2023, 06:13 PM   #10982
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Pretty sure the heated seat switches in my ‘20 are the same ones used in the 2004 WRX.
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Old 09-30-2023, 08:09 PM   #10983
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My "Subaru Global Platform" Impreza that Subaru spent $1,000,000 developing has the same underpinnings as a GD/GV WRX, 1st gen BRZ, and a couple of GV STI bits. Brakes (including FHI and Brembo calipers), rotors, control arms, sway bars, to name what I recall off the top of my head.

Now that every AWD Subaru has 5x114.3 hubs, I'm curious to know how many more parts are shared.
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Old 10-01-2023, 05:44 PM   #10984
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My "Subaru Global Platform" Impreza that Subaru spent $1,000,000 developing has the same underpinnings as a GD/GV WRX, 1st gen BRZ, and a couple of GV STI bits. Brakes (including FHI and Brembo calipers), rotors, control arms, sway bars, to name what I recall off the top of my head.

Now that every AWD Subaru has 5x114.3 hubs, I'm curious to know how many more parts are shared.



You forgot 3 zeros.....
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Old 10-01-2023, 07:09 PM   #10985
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Lol I did! N33d moar shleep
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Old 10-02-2023, 10:30 AM   #10986
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Recaros are in the TR!

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Old 10-04-2023, 10:59 AM   #10987
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Recaro's, The Higher trim headlamps, possibly the STI 6 speed, wheels, brakes, Maybe a wing, no moonroof, Eyesight (Regardless of trans), hmm.. what kind of price does this demand.
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Old 10-04-2023, 11:35 AM   #10988
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Recaro's, The Higher trim headlamps, possibly the STI 6 speed, wheels, brakes, Maybe a wing, no moonroof, Eyesight (Regardless of trans), hmm.. what kind of price does this demand.
It’s a performance pack. Wheels, brakes, seats. Looks to be based on a limited and not a premium like the last gen
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Old 10-04-2023, 01:01 PM   #10989
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It’s a performance pack. Wheels, brakes, seats. Looks to be based on a limited and not a premium like the last gen
I’d be interested if it was a Limited+, but no sunroof could mean Premium.
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Old 10-04-2023, 01:44 PM   #10990
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If it’s based on a Limited then this car will be close to 45k. Don’t forget those stupid “mandatory” accessories that all WRXs come with (the ones on the window sticker like STi shifter/mudguards, not scotch-gard or tint or other dealer-installed sucker items) that add 1-2k to the base price.
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Old 10-04-2023, 02:17 PM   #10991
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Looks like limited with sunroof delete but with wheels, brakes and seats. Bummer we won’t get the adaptive suspension from the GT but this is still a great package.
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If it’s based on a Limited then this car will be close to 45k. Don’t forget those stupid “mandatory” accessories that all WRXs come with (the ones on the window sticker like STi shifter/mudguards, not scotch-gard or tint or other dealer-installed sucker items) that add 1-2k to the base price.
STI SS kit is a must have for me. But, I hear you.
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Welcome to 2023, where overpaying for a car that’s slower, uglier, and less haptic than the prior generation is seen as a badge of honor.

The beatings will continue until morale improves.
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Old 10-04-2023, 03:45 PM   #10994
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STI SS kit is a must have for me. But, I hear you.



When I was getting my 2009, we had 2. One had the SS, the other had NAV. I've never cared about the SS kit soo much to pay ANY price for one. Even aftermarket price. I can shift fine without it. If it already had it installed, then fine. It does feel good. There is just no way I "waste" money on one, though. I laughed ALOT at those that added a SS TO the STI......that already had a factory SS and the accessory only reduced the throw by 10%. On that ALREADY short throw. Something I've just never really understood.
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I prefer the stock shifter. Never liked short-throws including the one in the STi.
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Old 10-05-2023, 02:14 PM   #10996
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When I was getting my 2009, we had 2. One had the SS, the other had NAV. I've never cared about the SS kit soo much to pay ANY price for one. Even aftermarket price. I can shift fine without it. If it already had it installed, then fine. It does feel good. There is just no way I "waste" money on one, though. I laughed ALOT at those that added a SS TO the STI......that already had a factory SS and the accessory only reduced the throw by 10%. On that ALREADY short throw. Something I've just never really understood.
Well, the 2005 WRX got a lot better with it. The Legacy based gearbox in the 2008-2014 didn’t need it (I didn’t buy it). But, the VA cable garbage probably needs all the help it can get. So I would pay for it, and the Cobb shift stop.
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Old 10-05-2023, 07:45 PM   #10997
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Well, the 2005 WRX got a lot better with it. The Legacy based gearbox in the 2008-2014 didn’t need it (I didn’t buy it). But, the VA cable garbage probably needs all the help it can get. So I would pay for it, and the Cobb shift stop.
Yeah. And that one I didn't get a lot of play time with both to rightly compare. I thought it was fine and would probably, stubbornly, still not have gotten it just cause.
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It's a Premium+.

No moonroof, no navigation, no STI wing.

2024 gets wireless CarPlay/AA and Eyesight for MT

https://media.subaru.com/pressreleas...-wrx-tr-debuts



"October 6, 2023 , Camden, N.J. -

NEW PERFORMANCE-FOCUSED 2024 SUBARU WRX TR DEBUTS AT SUBIEFEST FLORIDA
  • Equipped with high-performance Brembo® braking system
  • Stiffer springs and revised damping rates for better body control and steering response
  • All-new 19-inch wheels paired with Bridgestone Potenza S007 tires
  • Retuned steering for improved road feel
  • Standard Recaro black and gray Ultrasuede front seats
  • Moonroof delete for weight savings and low center of gravity
  • First time EyeSight® Driver Assist Technology offered on all WRX models with a manual transmission
  • Arrives in Subaru retailers first quarter of 2024

The enthusiast-focused 2024 Subaru WRX TR will make its global debut at Subiefest Florida on Saturday, October 7. The TR trim level offers exceptional performance and handling capability thanks to a Brembo braking system, revised suspension, retuned steering and updated performance tires. For the first time, EyeSight Driver Assist Technology is now standard on a WRX equipped with a manual transmission. With 2024 marking the return of the WRX TR to the model line, this top trim level will be available nationwide at Subaru retailers early next year.

The WRX TR comes equipped with a high-performance Brembo braking system including red 6-piston front calipers, and red 2-piston rear calipers, larger pads and rotors and larger brake master cylinder. The new system provides enhanced stopping power, fade resistance and pedal feel.

Stiffer springs, revised damping rates and a retuned steering rack provide the WRX TR with better body control and steering response while maintaining ride quality. The TR also comes standard with 245/35 R19 Bridgestone Potenza S007 tires for increased wet and dry grip and improved braking performance.

Offered for the first time on WRX with manual transmission is EyeSight Driver Assist Technology. The award-winning safety system includes Adaptive Cruise Control, Pre-Collision Braking System, Lane Departure and Sway Warning, and Lead Vehicle Start Alert. All 2024 Subaru WRX models equipped with a manual transmission will include EyeSight as standard equipment.

The latest generation WRX has a wide-body design offering an aggressive stance and bold look. At the front, Subaru's signature hexagonal grille is paired with a compact headlight design and broad front hood scoop. Prominent character lines across the front, sides, and rear of the vehicle further empathize the sports sedan's strength and performance capability. The exterior foldable mirrors and roof-mounted shark fin antenna come in matching body color. The rear deck lid has an integrated low-profile rear spoiler in matching body color. Rear taillights are designed to glow with a look reminiscent of volcanic magma.

The new top-tier WRX TR comes standard with Recaro® seats, offering the driver and front passenger increased support for performance driving. The Y-shaped design at the center of the seat backrest embodies a design concept in which the sides and shoulder blades of the occupant are securely supported to maintain proper driving posture. The seats are wrapped in black and gray Ultrasuede® with contrasting red stitching and the "Recaro" logo embossed on the seatbacks. The driver's seat includes 8-way power adjustments.

The power moonroof has been deleted for weight savings, a lower center of gravity and additional headroom for helmeted drivers. Exclusive all-new 19-inch multi-spoke wheels in satin gray finish come standard on the WRX TR.

The latest version of the SUBARU STARLINK 11.6-inch Multimedia Plus system is standard on WRX TR. The 11.6-inch center information display offers a high-definition touchscreen for multimedia, climate control, and vehicle configuration settings. The multimedia system includes wireless Apple CarPlay; wireless Android Auto; AM/FM/HD Radio; Bluetooth hands-free phone, text, and audio streaming connectivity; rear vision camera; and SiriusXM® and SiriusXM Travel Link® (4-month free Platinum subscription).

The WRX TR features legendary Subaru Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive and a 2.4-liter turbocharged Subaru BOXER® engine, delivering 271 horsepower at 5,600 rpm and broad torque curve with 258 lb-ft of torque from 2,000-5,200 rpm. Active Torque Vectoring is also standard across the model line.

The 2024 WRX TR will be unveiled at Subiefest Florida at Daytona International Speedway in Daytona, Florida to thousands of Subaru enthusiasts. The event is the largest annual gathering of Subaru fans in Florida and final stop of the annual SubieEvents enthusiast series.

Pricing for the 2024 Subaru WRX TR will be announced later this year."

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Old 10-06-2023, 09:48 AM   #10999
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Honestly I'd still get the GT and just add Brembos myself. I like my moonroofs that much. And I hate the manual WRX transmission that much.
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Honestly I'd still get the GT and just add Brembos myself. I like my moonroofs that much. And I hate the manual WRX transmission that much.
In that case, instead of settling, I say just get the WRX TR and do an STI 6 speed swap. You will most likely save some coin initially over the GT anyways and that can go toward an STI 6 speed.
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