2022 Subaru WRX Official Announcement *Merged*

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Originally Posted by SVX WRX

my situation has changed, and i probably could get a fun RWD car now. I plan on keeping current car for another 6 years at least, and by then there probably won't be any "cars" to choose from ... only SUV's

This is why I said get a DD. If that means you have to sell, step down to an economy car type DD, do it, because then you can snag a RWD performance variant before they go extinct. Too many (not you), do not understand the market we're in. I saw an article a few days ago (didn't bookmark it) on how Toyota may go hybrid with every single vehicle in their lineup. My point is this is why the DD makes so much sense. If it enables you to snag a 100% pure gas performance vehicle, that you don't need to drive everyday and can own for a decade or two, do it. They aren't going to be around much longer unless you've got 100k or more to buy one, and even then it'll most likely be a slushbox. It's musical chairs currently. Camaro is extinct now. Only 6MT GM makes is in the Blackwing now. Vette doesn't have one. And GM just said that their Caddy buyers are just fine with hybrids and EV's so the writing is on the wall for the Blackwing as well. Ford has stated the current Mustang is the last non-hybrid they will make. New Cayman, hybrid. Supra won't last much longer. So it could just be Toyota keeping the manuals alive as they've even developed a fake manual for EV's. Now this could all be completely incorrect but I wouldn't want to be someone who pressed skip and got left out in the wind, hunting in an overpriced used market to snag something because sellers will have a sellers market and prices will be ridic. Now is the time. Nor would I want to be someone daily driving a 6MT performance thing, racking miles up on it, only to have that same model canceled or converted into a hybrid slushbox. Get something now while you can, make it a weekend/fun car, so at least you are covered. If not a gearhead it doesn't matter then and you can buy an EV, SUV, CUV, or whatever.

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[Apb_pools]

Originally Posted by Pre

This is why I said get a DD. If that means you have to sell, step down to an economy car type DD, do it, because then you can snag a RWD performance variant before they go extinct. Too many (not you), do not understand the market we're in. I saw an article a few days ago (didn't bookmark it) on how Toyota may go hybrid with every single vehicle in their lineup. My point is this is why the DD makes so much sense. If it enables you to snag a 100% pure gas performance vehicle, that you don't need to drive everyday and can own for a decade or two, do it. They aren't going to be around much longer unless you've got 100k or more to buy one, and even then it'll most likely be a slushbox. It's musical chairs currently. Camaro is extinct now. Only 6MT GM makes is in the Blackwing now. Vette doesn't have one. And GM just said that their Caddy buyers are just fine with hybrids and EV's so the writing is on the wall for the Blackwing as well. Ford has stated the current Mustang is the last non-hybrid they will make. New Cayman, hybrid. Supra won't last much longer. So it could just be Toyota keeping the manuals alive as they've even developed a fake manual for EV's. Now this could all be completely incorrect but I wouldn't want to be someone who pressed skip and got left out in the wind, hunting in an overpriced used market to snag something because sellers will have a sellers market and prices will be ridic. Now is the time. Nor would I want to be someone daily driving a 6MT performance thing, racking miles up on it, only to have that same model canceled or converted into a hybrid slushbox. Get something now while you can, make it a weekend/fun car, so at least you are covered. If not a gearhead it doesn't matter then and you can buy an EV, SUV, CUV, or whatever.

Damn bro, you need a daily blog for your adventures and thoughts.

[SVX WRX]

Originally Posted by Pre

This is why I said get a DD. If that means you have to sell, step down to an economy car type DD, do it, because then you can snag a RWD performance variant before they go extinct. Too many (not you), do not understand the market we're in. I saw an article a few days ago (didn't bookmark it) on how Toyota may go hybrid with every single vehicle in their lineup. My point is this is why the DD makes so much sense. If it enables you to snag a 100% pure gas performance vehicle, that you don't need to drive everyday and can own for a decade or two, do it. They aren't going to be around much longer unless you've got 100k or more to buy one, and even then it'll most likely be a slushbox. It's musical chairs currently. Camaro is extinct now. Only 6MT GM makes is in the Blackwing now. Vette doesn't have one. And GM just said that their Caddy buyers are just fine with hybrids and EV's so the writing is on the wall for the Blackwing as well. Ford has stated the current Mustang is the last non-hybrid they will make. New Cayman, hybrid. Supra won't last much longer. So it could just be Toyota keeping the manuals alive as they've even developed a fake manual for EV's. Now this could all be completely incorrect but I wouldn't want to be someone who pressed skip and got left out in the wind, hunting in an overpriced used market to snag something because sellers will have a sellers market and prices will be ridic. Now is the time. Nor would I want to be someone daily driving a 6MT performance thing, racking miles up on it, only to have that same model canceled or converted into a hybrid slushbox. Get something now while you can, make it a weekend/fun car, so at least you are covered. If not a gearhead it doesn't matter then and you can buy an EV, SUV, CUV, or whatever.

you don't even understand my situation

i'm retired and don't need a DD. next car will be for the wife ... her's is 9 years old and has 18k on it. maybe looking at something new out of sheer boredom with it. would be a stupid financial decision, as there's nothing wrong with it. we'll see ...

[Apb_pools]

Originally Posted by SVX WRX

you don't even understand my situation

i'm retired and don't need a DD. next car will be for the wife ... her's is 9 years old and has 18k on it. maybe looking at something new out of sheer boredom with it. would be a stupid financial decision, as there's nothing wrong with it. we'll see ...

Since she drives so much per year i assume there is a truism about not letting wife drive your car or another one perhaps about retirees needing two cars.

Just wondering.

[SVX WRX]

Originally Posted by Apb_pools

Since she drives so much per year i assume there is a truism about not letting wife drive your car or another one perhaps about retirees needing two cars.

Just wondering.

she has a chronic illness with fatigue and dizziness. she drives maybe once or twice a month now when she's feeling decent. if we're both going out, i do the driving. since i don't drive to work anymore (had been working from home for 3 years before i retired), her car now gets the snow tires for winter duty. my car is black, so i can keep it out of the road muck when its snowy out. i still drive it in winter, just not on days where the roads are all crappy.

her car is paid for and comes in handy for larger loads, so will probably keep it until it dies ... i'm just kinda bored with it and sometimes think about something new

[Brahmzy]

No such thing as one vehicle to do it all. Doesn't exist. With enough money, you can get closer on a few more checkboxes.

3 purpose-built rigs usually does it for most. 2 if you don't need a pickup.

[Snow Drift]

Originally Posted by Brahmzy

No such thing as one vehicle to do it all. Doesn't exist. With enough money, you can get closer on a few more checkboxes.

3 purpose-built rigs usually does it for most. 2 if you don't need a pickup.

The perfect car doesn't exis....

[samagon]

we've all got different tastes, but I know for me, if I was in a place in life where a daily + 2 fun vehicles was attainable, the current WRX wouldn't be anywhere near any list of mine.

but the thing is, a lot of the people who the WRX is on the list for, they need a vehicle that can compromise because they aren't in a place in life yet where they can just toss money at things. so they get what they can afford which is the WRX, it compromises in a lot of places, but you can throw a stage 2 at it, put a STI wing on it, and be happy with your life's choices up to that point. never mind that shifting the transmission feels like the stick is connected with a few wet spaghetti noodles, or that the brakes fade faster than a flower in death valley with no water, or that the car has a loaded up diaper on the back of it.

all that stuff to the side, the WRX really does make good sense at the 30k mark when you want a vehicle that can tick a lot of boxes and then some boxes halfway. it's a fun car at 30k.

[mcarb002]

In my situation, ideally I’d have 3 vehicles at most, 2 if I had more money to buy 1 that does some of the other things I want it to do.

I have a young family, so a people mover is a must right now. Therefore, I have a minivan. It’s a great freaking car. But it has minimal clearance and we’re getting to that stage where the kids can start going outdoors. So ideally, I’d love to have a Land Cruiser sized SUV with enough clearance to also use it as the adventure/over landing type vehicle. But those are too expensive nowadays. And then I’m itching for my own manual fun toy.

Easiest solution I think right now would be to get myself a beater rig for the trails and then wait until maybe a better WRX or STI shows up. Or just fudge it, forget Subaru altogether and move to bigger and better things like an RS3.

[samagon]

I wish my wife would get a minivan.

she wants to have the option for 7 seats eventually, but wants a SUV. I get it, she has bad memories of being made fun of for driving a minivan when she was a teenager, but the price plus utility is unbeatable.

I may say screw it and go find a mid-80s Vanagon, do a WRX swap and make her drive a crosstrek.

[chanomatik]

I'm gonna get "Sienna" tattooed in Old English across my chest.

[mcarb002]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

I'm gonna get "Sienna" tattooed in Old English across my chest.

You don’t choose the thug life, the thug life chooses you.

[Apb_pools]

Originally Posted by mcarb002

In my situation, ideally I’d have 3 vehicles at most, 2 if I had more money to buy 1 that does some of the other things I want it to do.

I have a young family, so a people mover is a must right now. Therefore, I have a minivan. It’s a great freaking car. But it has minimal clearance and we’re getting to that stage where the kids can start going outdoors. So ideally, I’d love to have a Land Cruiser sized SUV with enough clearance to also use it as the adventure/over landing type vehicle. But those are too expensive nowadays. And then I’m itching for my own manual fun toy.

Easiest solution I think right now would be to get myself a beater rig for the trails and then wait until maybe a better WRX or STI shows up. Or just fudge it, forget Subaru altogether and move to bigger and better things like an RS3.

ewww...rs3. That's a fwd car.

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Originally Posted by samagon

I wish my wife would get a minivan.

she wants to have the option for 7 seats eventually, but wants a SUV. I get it, she has bad memories of being made fun of for driving a minivan when she was a teenager, but the price plus utility is unbeatable.

I may say screw it and go find a mid-80s Vanagon, do a WRX swap and make her drive a crosstrek.

F what people think. I love minivans, so much utility. Some of them are fast in a straight line as a WRX The Sienna and Odyssey are basically luxury vehicles. They handle better than a SUV as well. But for most image > functionality.

I was going to get a cargo van vs. my truck, but getting AWD was over $27k more expensive If they weren’t so expensive I’d have one now but if I build it with diesel, AWD, it’s at $60k before you start adding options.

[meebs]

Originally Posted by Pre

F what people think. I love minivans, so much utility. Some of them are fast in a straight line as a WRX The Sienna and Odyssey are basically luxury vehicles. They handle better than a SUV as well. But for most image > functionality.

I was going to get a cargo van vs. my truck, but getting AWD was over $27k more expensive If they weren’t so expensive I’d have one now but if I build it with diesel, AWD, it’s at $60k before you start adding options.

Time to petition Toyota for the Alphard Executive Lounge.

[YungBoba]

Originally Posted by samagon

I wish my wife would get a minivan.

she wants to have the option for 7 seats eventually, but wants a SUV. I get it, she has bad memories of being made fun of for driving a minivan when she was a teenager, but the price plus utility is unbeatable.

I may say screw it and go find a mid-80s Vanagon, do a WRX swap and make her drive a crosstrek.

Kia Carnival? As far as minivans go, it looks the least like a minivan compared to its competitors thanks to having a more boxy and angular look. They even coin it as a "MPV" (Multi-Purpose Vehicle) specifically to try to get away from the "minivan" label (even though it is one).

https://www.kia.com/us/en/carnival-mpv

[Straight6]

Originally Posted by Pre

I love minivans, so much utility. Some of them are fast in a straight line as a WRX

Which ones ? GRC is barely any quicker in a straight line than a WRX, but you already knew that. At least the FA24 isn't maxed out from the factory like the 3 pot.

[Kostamojen]

Updated inventory numbers for the month... WRX inventory continues to pile up, along with GTI's and Corvettes.

[mcarb002]

Are you somehow API-ing CarGurus or doing manual nationwide search per vehicle?

[Kostamojen]

Originally Posted by mcarb002

Are you somehow API-ing CarGurus or doing manual nationwide search per vehicle?

Manual searches. They obviously are not 100% accurate, but the margin of error is probably within a couple percent. Its doing a better job showing which models actually are readily available versus others, and sales numbers don't do a good job showing that and a lot of manufacturers don't report individual model/trim sales.

[mcarb002]

Originally Posted by Kostamojen

Manual searches. They obviously are not 100% accurate, but the margin of error is probably within a couple percent. Its doing a better job showing which models actually are readily available versus others, and sales numbers don't do a good job showing that and a lot of manufacturers don't report individual model/trim sales.

wow dude, nice job.



A little bit off topic, but I had mentioned that ideally I'd have 2-3 cars. The people mover (which I have), an offroader, and a manual fun car. I was searching on cargurus for fun and literally Tacomas with like 100K miles go for 30K lol meanwhile, the 2024 Titan's sitting in Nissan lots are being heavily heavily discounted and Nissan offering as we speak 0% interest.



There's a dealer next state with dozens of them offering 2024 Titan Pro4Xs for 45K when thy were basically 60K msrp. At 0% that's a freaking steal in today's current car environment. I'm honestly super tempted to go for this. It just sucks that the Sienna is not practical offroader. But man, that Titan is a legit last of its kind ever. Real naturally aspirated V8 as a full size truck should be. Toyota currently selling their turbo v6 Tundra TRD Pros for 80k!!! hahaha they've lost their minds. Again, 45K@0% interest for a Pro4X 2024 new Titan, just sitting in lots, a bunch of them. People are blinded by the big 3 domestic turds. I'm seriously considering it.

I also saw a video of the new Tacomas one that was modified for offroad, the user was talking about he's actually concerned on long term reliability because the turbo is basically always spooling and car's running very hot. Basically what everyone and their mothers said about this new drivetrain on the Tacos.

[Kostamojen]

Thanks, it surprisingly doesn't take too long to update. Porsche takes the longest because I have to use Porschefinder and literally count each listing since they won't list totals

Yup, there are a lot of deals out there right now. Great time to buy actually, especially if you are paying cash.

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Originally Posted by meebs

Time to petition Toyota for the Alphard Executive Lounge.

Nah. I’d want a cargo version. I could skip the bike trailer for trackdays. I’ve rented them before. Install my chock, and room for 2 bikes + suits/gear, tools, tires, everything. Merc wants 60k for that thing, and a new enclosed m/c trailer is less than 10k.

Kid hauler, Minivan pwns the bs SUV’s and CUV’s.

[mcarb002]

You talking bout a Sprinter van?

[SCRAPPYDO]

Originally Posted by mcarb002

wow dude, nice job.



A little bit off topic, but I had mentioned that ideally I'd have 2-3 cars. The people mover (which I have), an offroader, and a manual fun car. I was searching on cargurus for fun and literally Tacomas with like 100K miles go for 30K lol meanwhile, the 2024 Titan's sitting in Nissan lots are being heavily heavily discounted and Nissan offering as we speak 0% interest.



There's a dealer next state with dozens of them offering 2024 Titan Pro4Xs for 45K when thy were basically 60K msrp. At 0% that's a freaking steal in today's current car environment. I'm honestly super tempted to go for this. It just sucks that the Sienna is not practical offroader. But man, that Titan is a legit last of its kind ever. Real naturally aspirated V8 as a full size truck should be. Toyota currently selling their turbo v6 Tundra TRD Pros for 80k!!! hahaha they've lost their minds. Again, 45K@0% interest for a Pro4X 2024 new Titan, just sitting in lots, a bunch of them. People are blinded by the big 3 domestic turds. I'm seriously considering it.

I also saw a video of the new Tacomas one that was modified for offroad, the user was talking about he's actually concerned on long term reliability because the turbo is basically always spooling and car's running very hot. Basically what everyone and their mothers said about this new drivetrain on the Tacos.

That is a VERY good deal to pick up a full size beast of a truck for a song. 0% is just icing on the top. Any toyota is a good buy usually, but at these inflated prices, they are pushing too hard. The shine will fall off toyota soon as Ford, Ram and Chevy are piling money on the hoods of their trucks, that are every bit as capable as the Tundra.

Saving 15k off a truck is no joke in this horrible floundering economy with high interest rates. People do not want a 1200 dollar car note. These prices must come down. The cost of making these vehicles have not gone up 40% in the past 4 years. I was worried when the COVID fiasco ended, and the 'shortages' stopped, that prices would not come back down to pre COVID prices. The local manufacturers are adjusting (I just got 14500 off my Grand Cherokee).

Many dealers have a glut of inventory and they are about stop taking delivery on new cars (which is what happened with Stellantis), so discounts are coming.

If you can wait a bit longer, you will find deals!