2022 Subaru WRX Official Announcement *Merged*

[D-Rodman]

Originally Posted by Russ_G93

Damn Rod! That Rig is sweet. I have an uncle that more or less took a Base sprinter and added a sink, bed, cabinets, etc. Really neat little adventure rig for sure.
I used to smoke cigs in my younger days in college. Vaping came around (Those metal Battery tubes from those chinese websites) and it helped me quit. It was only fitting that I drove around an 08 LGT at the time lmao.

Thanks Russ, we downsized to the Sprinter Winnebago, no regrets. When we were looking to downsize we were considering a converted sprinter van but the wife saw our RV come up for sale close to our home and arranged to go see it. It had 75,000 miles on the clock and the old man selling it had every piece of paper from original purchase and all maintenance. I crawled all underneath it and checked it all out. The vehicle has never seen road salt, critical when looking at sprinters. It was pretty much all up to date on maintenance but needed new brake pads and rotors, a rather simple job I handled myself at home. Compared to what we would have spent on a converted van, I’m guessing we saved $50-60K. A converted van would have been tight for us two, our daughter and our 2 dogs. We are confortable on our size RV.
It has been extremely reliable.


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[quentinberg007]

Originally Posted by mcarb002

They were always a watered down version, the rest of the world got the Patrol. But now with the new one, the Pro4x IS a real Patrol. It’s still cheaper than the Toyota products. I’d take it over the new “Land Cruiser”, which is not a real Land Cruiser it’s a Prado. The real Land Cruiser here is the Lexus LX

Patrol is independent rear suspension. If you want SRA, the Land Cruiser is a better vehicle. LX is a ridiculous waste of the 300 series bones. 250 series is a better overall vehicle if off road is the priority.

[20WRX20]

Hopefully next time you guys will stay in hotels and stop clogging up the cladded up economy car thread with your camping tirades.

[Straight6]

Looks like the WRX demolished the GRC in sales this month again. Add the GTI and Golf R combined to that too. But yeah the plastic cladding is bad Love it!

[20WRX20]

Originally Posted by Straight6

Looks like the WRX demolished the GRC in sales this month again. Add the GTI and Golf R combined to that too. But yeah the plastic cladding is bad Love it!

What part of low/limited production do you not understand when it comes to the Toyota and VW cars?

The VB is not aging well at all. Somehow it looks more dated than the VA in person. It just looks so silly with the cladding - like someone tried to rice their car out but didn’t paint the body kit. Hopefully it gets refreshed soon and all that unpainted plastic garbage goes away.

As is, I will not be buying another WRX.

[Kostamojen]

Originally Posted by 20WRX20

What part of low/limited production do you not understand when it comes to the Toyota and VW cars?

Well this is the perfect example of when to fight a shills false narrative with actual information.

WRX sales are not good enough, because production is outpacing demand, causing increasing discounts to be available thus losing money.

The GRC has severely low production quanitities still, but demand is steady. You can maybe get a small discount but not nearly as much as a WRX.

The Golf R has similar inventory to the GRC, less actually and fewer shipments per year, and they are not selling for a discount or much of one either. Demand and production are in sync there.

The GTI isn't selling well enough just like the WRX, mostly due to the crap infotainment we presume, plenty of inventory and discounts are available there too.

Originally Posted by Kostamojen

https://i.imgur.com/EzeP5Y3.jpeg

Updated inventory numbers for the month... WRX inventory continues to pile up, along with GTI's and Corvettes.

[Apb_pools]

Originally Posted by 20WRX20

What part of low/limited production do you not understand when it comes to the Toyota and VW cars?

The VB is not aging well at all. Somehow it looks more dated than the VA in person. It just looks so silly with the cladding - like someone tried to rice their car out but didn't paint the body kit. Hopefully it gets refreshed soon and all that unpainted plastic garbage goes away.

As is, I will not be buying another WRX.

I dont understand what limited production has to do with anything? Are you suggesting that GRC or Golf R would sell 10X more if production was 10X more?

What are you saying? Explain it like i am a 5th grader because i believe not one person does not buy the GRC because it is limited in production, or that the average buyer looks at production numbers then decides to buy a WRX instead because more are produced. Limited production usually means that it is a low demand vehicle or elite, only the first few can get. But they are available everywhere, even at low production numbers so what gives?

@Kosta... what part of his statement was factually wrong? You are calling him a shill and arguing something he didnt state or argue himself. Where is your common sense.

[20WRX20]

Originally Posted by Apb_pools

I dont understand what limited production has to do with anything? Are you suggesting that GRC or Golf R would sell 10X more if production was 10X more?

What are you saying? Explain it like i am a 5th grader because i believe not one person does not buy the GRC because it is limited in production, or that the average buyer looks at production numbers then decides to buy a WRX instead because more are produced. Limited production usually means that it is a low demand vehicle or elite, only the first few can get. But they are available everywhere, even at low production numbers so what gives?

@Kosta... what part of his statement was factually wrong? You are calling him a shill and arguing something he didnt state or argue himself. Where is your common sense.

See below. Double post.

[20WRX20]

Originally Posted by Apb_pools

I dont understand what limited production has to do with anything? Are you suggesting that GRC or Golf R would sell 10X more if production was 10X more?

What are you saying? Explain it like i am a 5th grader because i believe not one person does not buy the GRC because it is limited in production, or that the average buyer looks at production numbers then decides to buy a WRX instead because more are produced. Limited production usually means that it is a low demand vehicle or elite, only the first few can get. But they are available everywhere, even at low production numbers so what gives?

@Kosta... what part of his statement was factually wrong? You are calling him a shill and arguing something he didnt state or argue himself. Where is your common sense.

If you only make 4000 cars a year, and someone else makes 24,000, and both companies sell all of their cars, you can’t really argue one is better than the other based on sales figures. “WRX demolished the GRC in sales!” Yeah, no ****, because they made 10 WRXs for every one GRC lol.

This was a big talking point back in the late 2000s. “GM outsells Tundra every year!” Yeah no ****, there are way more Silverado’s/Sierras made than Tundras, and both the GM and Toyota trucks sold equally well. GM also had to use big cash discounts to get their trucks to sell, while Toyota took little if any money off MSRP.

It’s just a dumb talking point people bring up without looking at the details. Speaking of which, there are about 10 WRXs available for every one GRC right now. But again, limited production vs mass produced. Taking into account current inventory and production numbers, I’d say both cars have roughly the same demand.

Kostamojen was agreeing with me btw.

[Apb_pools]

Originally Posted by 20WRX20

If you only make 4000 cars a year, and someone else makes 24,000, and both companies sell all of their cars, you can’t really argue one is better than the other based on sales figures. “WRX demolished the GRC in sales!” Yeah, no ****, because they made 10 WRXs for every one GRC lol.

This was a big talking point back in the late 2000s. “GM outsells Tundra every year!” Yeah no ****, there are way more Silverado’s/Sierras made than Tundras, and both the GM and Toyota trucks sell equally well.

It’s just a dumb talking point people bring up without looking at the details. Speaking of which, there are about 10 WRXs available for every one GRC right now. But again, limited production vs mass produced.

Kostamojen was agreeing with me btw.

I understand "your" logic now.

[Straight6]

It is limited production because there is little to no demand . But whatever the excuses, however you want to spin in or even call other posters names, it doesn't change the fact that sales numbers don't lie and reflect that the WRX handily outsells the other cars mentioned.

[20WRX20]

Originally Posted by Straight6

It is limited production because there is little to no demand . But whatever the excuses, however you want to spin in or even call other posters names, it doesn't change the fact that sales numbers don't lie and reflect that the WRX handily outsells the other cars mentioned.

That’s not the reason at all. The car was always going to be a limited run, niche product. I’m so sick of the misinformation on here. It’s one thing to have an opinion but don’t come on here and say “the car is limited production because there is little demand” this is a 100% false statement. Just stop already.

People were paying OVER MSRP to get these cars. I don’t know anyone who paid over MSRP to get a WRX, not even a TR. Toyota actually had to increase production of the GRC to meet demand. So “little to no demand” is completely false.

[Apb_pools]

Originally Posted by 20WRX20

That’s not the reason at all. I’m so sick of the misinformation on here. It’s one thing to have an opinion but don’t come on here and say “the car is limited production because there is little demand” this is a 100% false statement. Just stop already.

People were paying OVER MSRP to get these cars. I don’t know anyone who paid over MSRP to get a WRX, not even a TR. Toyota actually had to increase production of the GRC to meet demand. So “little to no demand” is completely false.

You the same guy showing me how they are available all over the place not too long ago right.. with limited production numbers and all.

Must be fun in your head.

[20WRX20]

Originally Posted by Apb_pools

You the same guy showing me how they are available all over the place not too long ago right.. with limited production numbers and all.

Must be fun in your head.

Look at the chart above. There are a few hundred in inventory. The Toyota website shows the same. If you’re not married to one particular dealer it’s easy to get one at or below MSRP. This has been confirmed on GRC forums, Reddit, and also in my email inbox where I have several price quotes.

[Apb_pools]

Originally Posted by 20WRX20

Look at the chart above. There are a few hundred in inventory. The Toyota website shows the same. If you're not married to one particular dealer it's easy to get one at or below MSRP. This has been confirmed on GRC forums, Reddit, and also in my email inbox where I have several price quotes.

I get it. But do you?

Which is it? Over msrp or under msrp? How sought after is this "special car?" Low demand low production or high demand low production?

[20WRX20]

Originally Posted by Apb_pools

I get it. But do you?

Which is it? Over msrp or under msrp? How sought after is this "special car?" Low demand low production or high demand low production?

What are you talking about? The car was decided from day one to be a low production niche product. People originally paid over asking due to high demand. The market has softened (across the board, not just for this car) and it’s now possible to get the cars at a lower price.

[Apb_pools]

Originally Posted by 20WRX20

What are you talking about? The car was decided from day one to be a low production niche product. People originally paid over asking due to high demand. The market has softened (across the board, not just for this car) and it's now possible to get the cars at a lower price.

I get it. Market is soft now and that explains soft sales of GRC but does not explain soft sales of WRX. WRX soft sales are because of cladding and bad car not because of soft market?

Am i right?

[mcarb002]

Can we get to talking about minivans?

[20WRX20]

Originally Posted by mcarb002

Can we get to talking about minivans?

Never.

[Apb_pools]

Yes, lets get back to bashing WRX VB. So ugly, cladding especially. But else too.

[rallly 4]

Abp and the other one who I won’t name are unbearable. This is what happens when you’ve never owned anything interesting before and are new to the car world.

One of them is dumb as rocks and the other is too green to google and do any research, if they only knew the GRC is built at a specialized factory

[Apb_pools]

Yea special factory like Ferrari.

[vapore0n]

So when can we expect a refresh? Wasn't there rumor of an emergency refresh?
Guess it wasn't much of an emergency after all.

[20WRX20]

Originally Posted by vapore0n

So when can we expect a refresh? Wasn't there rumor of an emergency refresh?
Guess it wasn't much of an emergency after all.

I heard MY 2026.

[chanomatik]

That rumor was just wishful thinking. Subaru isn't compelled to dump more money into the WRX than what's necessary.

The VB WRX releases on Forza Horizon 5 this coming Thursday. I can't wait to try my best to make it look halfway decent.