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Old 09-13-2019, 10:13 AM   #326
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Last evening I got a few things done. Swapped in fresh coolant and in process I dumped coolant all over like a fool. Installed the undertray with some added heat shielding underneath the headers.
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Hijacked the FF sensor to use as a test bench. So far I ran samples of E0, E7, E80, and E92 to compare the SensVolts to Water Tube results. My attempt to improving the transfer correlation.
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My boost leak cap apparently grew legs and walked off. So I pulled the WRX out of the garage and swept the garage floor of all the debris built over it's slumber. Off to McMaster today for some parts to build another boost leak cap and a larger gauge to do some MAP and FPsi sensor tests. Trying to get a few things done prior to being out for a work trip all next week. And yes I still am waiting for my trunk lid....
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Cool. I do like that hose and routing on the first photo, the E% and fuel psi sensors on the bracket. It is nicely packaged for a TMIC application. The control box is a bit "there" but I suppose function over form. I wonder why they do not use the newer (smaller form) Continental FF sensor?
Yellow clamps must indicate they can withstand 6,599 mph hyper-sonic speeds! Best of luck on your project.
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Old 09-18-2019, 09:01 AM   #327
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Cool. I do like that hose and routing on the first photo, the E% and fuel psi sensors on the bracket. It is nicely packaged for a TMIC application. The control box is a bit "there" but I suppose function over form. I wonder why they do not use the newer (smaller form) Continental FF sensor?
Yellow clamps must indicate they can withstand 6,599 mph hyper-sonic speeds! Best of luck on your project.[/quote]

Ya im not to fond of the Control Box mounting. I have constructed a Carbon Fiber Bracket to mount it directly above the fuel filter so it will be out of sight soon........ Yep The Axles are rated just under 1 parsec. maybe Lightspeed IDK

BTW LOVE THE HEAT SHIELDING YOU ADDED! IM GOING TO HAVE TO COPY YOU!


This is my new e85 Sensor I just receivedhttps://i.imgur.com/haQHgVA.jpg
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Old 09-26-2019, 10:38 AM   #328
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Retrieved my trunk lid last week. Surprisingly it was painted, although not quite up to my standards.
On it went then dove right into road testing and data logs. Working through initial stuffs and MAF checks. E-tuning is going really well so far. Some weirdness with this ECM not allowing beyond 20 data log parameters. Only low load drives on 93oct pump fuel so far.
Loud...really LOUD...did I mention it's LOUD? I really underestimated a Tomei catback with a catless downpipe and UEL header. Probably going to have to address reducing volume after tuning is completed. Maybe that dumb silencer that Tomei sent with it. Adding a catalyst might help but I'm doubtful.

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Old 10-09-2019, 09:55 AM   #329
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Have been spending time primarily on driving through map revisions, taking datalogs, and emailing JazTuning. Last datalogs were on E85, 25psi, and some reduced timing. So far so good. Hoping to get this wrapped up before old man winter shows up.

Ordered another catback just in case I get too much attention on the Tomei. Would have liked a MadDad Whisper but not willing to take a risk on ordering it. Looked at Cobb but it's just marked up too much for what it really is. Went with an Invidia Q300 since I got it at a reasonable sale price. At this time I am sticking to the Tomei through e-tuning and will decide later what to do. I like the Tomei on a stock-ish car. Between the sound level on my current mods and also now that "everyone" has a Tomei, it is just a bit ehh...

Between maps I ended up getting the rear spoiler bolted back on. So now I have a 3rd stop lamp and I'm no longer wingless (I'm just not in the wingless camp). Looks alright.
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Old 10-09-2019, 01:26 PM   #330
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Looks good man. better than I expected
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Old 10-09-2019, 05:13 PM   #331
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Looks good man. better than I expected
Thanks.
I am aware this spoiler isn't for everyone, but I like it pretty good.
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Old 10-21-2019, 11:27 AM   #332
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Progress is steady. E85 tuning seems mostly done by now, just some cold start difficulty to tune out. Running another boost leak check which the normal areas appear to be air tight. I have one boost/vac signal tee fitting that was leaking early on and replaced with a plastic tee. That plasitic one apparently cannot handle engine heat. So I'm ordering some metal tees to fix that issue for good. Will need to get back to pump fuel to tune the lower boost maps before this is likely done. Weather permitting...starting to get crummy around here.

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Old 11-01-2019, 04:49 PM   #333
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Finally found a high pressure 23psig+ boost leak on one of the TMIC Ypipe connections. It would not leak at all until you boost checked at higher levels. Had to reconfigure my boot leak gear to support testing continuously. Planning to swap the worm clamps out for oetiker clamps which will not loosen over time. Fixed that and then found a leak between the BPV flange and the TMIC lower tank.

So I have an earlier PW TMIC which has this flange welded on from the inside prior to welding the lower tank to the core. Had emailed about any options for replacement but was declined due to being 8 yrs since purchase. I guess I cannot blame them considering that fact. However the usage over those 8 yrs is low miles and at stock boost levels. Obviously they had issues with leaks here since at some point their production started welding around the outer perimeter of the BPV flange. So hmm.

Meanwhile we have moved back into pump gas tuning to finish up this activity. I got stalled on the getting the E85 all out and pump gas back in. Trips, Halloween, and weather are not helping here. Should have that squared away tonight and them waiting for snow to melt so I can get the requested datalogs. Maybe this weekend I'll get the catback swapped out, this new TMIC installed, and the tee's put in.


27043aa010 -> 27043aa011 -> 27043aa012 – sensor with larger taper-thread plug ($143 MSRP) 2004-2007
27043aa020 – sensor with larger strait-thread plug ($147 MSRP) 2008-2014, same harness connector as above
22630aa260 – only sensor ($45 MSRP) 2015-2019, different harness connector than above

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Old 12-06-2019, 10:58 AM   #334
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Thanks to Jason at JazTuning...
E-Tuning is done for this year, pretty much squared away, and running well. Next year's plan is to drive it around and sort out any smaller powertrain issues. Plan for a built block after wards and possibly a turbo change. Other than that it's just some chassis related changes.

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My apologies for venting and then just accepting our "future".
Effing hell Imgur now you have gone full azzhat too. I don't think I have the desire to attempt looking for another web photo hosting option again. So that is awesome, an entire era of internet forum knowledge that is diminished with blurred out Photobucket and phantom Imgur images. Now at least the links are there so the effort Nick put towards that is something which I appreciate.
So all we have left is crappy Instagram and Facebook to post photos with little if no typed detail, discussion, Q&A? That is effing sad since I don't nearly have enough photos of: models sitting on my hood, every fill-up at fuel pump, just after washing/waxing, foolish attempts of poorman's anti-lag, eating a dounut in front of my car, squatting in some dumb pose nearby, staged photos of me not really doing anything, dumb/illegal driving on the roads, or any photo that really does not mean squat.
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Old 12-06-2019, 11:04 AM   #335
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My apologies for venting and then just accepting our "future".
Effing hell Imgur now you have gone full azzhat too. I don't think I have the desire to attempt looking for another web photo hosting option again. So that is awesome, an entire era of internet forum knowledge that is diminished with blurred out Photobucket and phantom Imgur images. Now at least the links are there so the effort Nick put towards that is something which I appreciate.
So all we have left is crappy Instagram and Facebook to post photos with little if no typed detail, discussion, Q&A? That is effing sad since I don't nearly have enough photos of: models sitting on my hood, every fill-up at fuel pump, just after washing/waxing, foolish attempts of poorman's anti-lag, eating a dounut in front of my car, squatting in some dumb pose nearby, staged photos of me not really doing anything, dumb/illegal driving on the roads, or any photo that really does not mean squat.
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You could use Tapatalk app. Their server also hosts images and is easy to upload since you can include the photos right from your phone.
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i was expecting to see a dope space marines paint job or some ork related stuff. given the thread title
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You could use Tapatalk app. Their server also hosts images and is easy to upload since you can include the photos right from your phone.
True and a good suggestion. But I guess I'm too old to want to deal with that workaround.

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i was expecting to see a dope space marines paint job or some ork related stuff. given the thread title
No doubt a space Marines scheme would be pretty awesome. I titled it that way since I liked that the WRX is a capable platform but a bit on the weird looking side.
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Old 12-06-2019, 10:26 PM   #338
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Take that Imgur...you lucky I have small medium fists
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Starting to look ahead into what eventual direction to take with the engine a few years out. Not really sure what direction I want to go though. Staying EJ25 would offer more accessible replacements in event of failures. Going EJ20 is honestly always been an interest to me though.
1-built EJ257 shortblock, install with my D25 cylinder heads or...
2-modify a GRB-era EJ207 longblock, moving over key parts from my EJ255 or why not...
3-built GRB-era EJ207 longblock
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Good you have a direction for down the road.

Side Note: What watch you wearing in that exhaust fist pic?
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... Side Note: What watch you wearing in that exhaust fist pic?
Not really able to wear any of my others since I can unexpectedly go from desk work strait into mechanical work. So I daily this Seiko 5 (SNZG15) and swap out the silicone straps as they get beat up. Rear glass is chipped though so I ought to replace it sometime soon.
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Starting to look ahead into what eventual direction to take with the engine a few years out. Not really sure what direction I want to go though. Staying EJ25 would offer more accessible replacements in event of failures. Going EJ20 is honestly always been an interest to me though.
1-built EJ257 shortblock, install with my D25 cylinder heads or...
2-modify a GRB-era EJ207 longblock, moving over key parts from my EJ255 or why not...
3-built GRB-era EJ207 longblock
You can do a GDB Era block as well

Many people have modified EJ207 heads to accept the cam triggers for the USDM cams.

That way you can run an EJ207 on the stock 32bit ecu.

You can also source a new EJ207 bottom end from AUS for under $2000
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Old 12-13-2019, 09:57 AM   #343
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Very true.
I have been casually researching through all of the EJ207 threads as well as other sources and came to similar conclusions. Due to my 32bit ECU, if I go the EJ207 route I would probably opt for a GRB-era requiring to swap cams, gears, timing covers, and possibly a few minor sensors. If I go GDB-era the same goal requires non-reversible modifications to the cylinder heads. Doable but just not my favorite way to go about it. Also the current price of a GRB-era EJ207 needs to come down to a reasonable level. Maybe that will happen around the time I am ready to start working on this. I have plenty of other tasks to work though (finish 12L spray, airbag inflator, new roof skin/vent, AC cond swap, 6MT oil cooler system, etc) anyways.
Regardless of which path to EJ207 it still results in some harder to source replacement parts. Headgaskets are different but those are no big deal to source. However if I chucked the bottom end then I have to get a whole other used EJ207 engine, or order a new GDB shortblock from AUS, or order new GRB cases from JPN. Ehh
I do not particularly feel the EJ257 is bad engine for my use. Also not certain the EJ207 smoothness "or whatever" is worth all the hassle especially when I transfer over my single scroll AMT. I have zero interest in twin scroll.
So in my case perhaps the EJ257 is still a good option. I could be looking at EJ257 options of closed deck, uprated headstuds, pistons, rods, and possibly D25 headwork for the price of a current GRB-era EJ207. Still the EJ207 rod ratio is the factor I am still very interested in. Have never driven or ridden in an EJ207 Subaru so I have no personal comparison.

Basically needing something that works with my car's JDM long-ratio 6MT gearing, 25-30psig FP Blue (or perhaps future efr / g-series), flex-fuel, and hoping for a reasonable lifespan on mostly street/occasional light track use. Looks like these are the questions I must answer first but in no particular order:
-factory assembled engine or built engine preference?
-honestly will I go beyond my current pwr/tq rating?
-favor low end tq or high end pwr?

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Old 01-06-2020, 04:02 PM   #344
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My daily driver has steering wheel controls (SWC) which I would enjoy in the WRX too. Picked up a steering wheel that supports mounting the SpecB SWCs but keeps my airbag, a set of SpecB SWC switches, and a Metra Axxess ASWC-1 interface. Have been reading up all about others who added SWCs to other Subarus. There are more than a few inconsistencies in those existing threads. I'm not even sure that those installs actually work correctly as they said. I am reviewing through WRX and SpecB wiring diagrams now.

Specifically the task is my 2006 WRX, change steering wheel, reuse existing airbag, add 2006 Legacy SpecB SWC switches, harvest 2006 Legacy cruise switch connector, modify (or replace) roll connector to support 3 extra circuits, retain correct illumination function, add the ASWC-1, and connect to my Sony headunit. And have it all work like factory. I'd rather green illumination instead of red...but I will either live with red or change the surface mount LEDs later on.

Things I have to sort out still:
1)modify the roll connector or is there a suitable factory part instead?
2)the SWC switches are 5v (NOT 12v) source from the factory head units, is that going to be an issue, switch life, function, etc?
3)will the ASWC-1 auto program or will I have to manually setup?
4)the illumination circuit is Subaru's wonky backwards setup.
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Very true.
I have been casually researching through all of the EJ207 threads as well as other sources and came to similar conclusions. Due to my 32bit ECU, if I go the EJ207 route I would probably opt for a GRB-era requiring to swap cams, gears, timing covers, and possibly a few minor sensors. If I go GDB-era the same goal requires non-reversible modifications to the cylinder heads. Doable but just not my favorite way to go about it. Also the current price of a GRB-era EJ207 needs to come down to a reasonable level. Maybe that will happen around the time I am ready to start working on this. I have plenty of other tasks to work though (finish 12L spray, airbag inflator, new roof skin/vent, AC cond swap, 6MT oil cooler system, etc) anyways.
Regardless of which path to EJ207 it still results in some harder to source replacement parts. Headgaskets are different but those are no big deal to source. However if I chucked the bottom end then I have to get a whole other used EJ207 engine, or order a new GDB shortblock from AUS, or order new GRB cases from JPN. Ehh
I do not particularly feel the EJ257 is bad engine for my use. Also not certain the EJ207 smoothness "or whatever" is worth all the hassle especially when I transfer over my single scroll AMT. I have zero interest in twin scroll.
So in my case perhaps the EJ257 is still a good option. I could be looking at EJ257 options of closed deck, uprated headstuds, pistons, rods, and possibly D25 headwork for the price of a current GRB-era EJ207. Still the EJ207 rod ratio is the factor I am still very interested in. Have never driven or ridden in an EJ207 Subaru so I have no personal comparison.

Basically needing something that works with my car's JDM long-ratio 6MT gearing, 25-30psig FP Blue (or perhaps future efr / g-series), flex-fuel, and hoping for a reasonable lifespan on mostly street/occasional light track use. Looks like these are the questions I must answer first but in no particular order:
-factory assembled engine or built engine preference?
-honestly will I go beyond my current pwr/tq rating?
-favor low end tq or high end pwr?
I would get in contact with Ryan Payne at P2P racing or chat with the Six Star Motorsports guys they have tuned tons of engines. Dewey at Six Star won't steer you wrong.

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My daily driver has steering wheel controls (SWC) which I would enjoy in the WRX too. Picked up a steering wheel that supports mounting the SpecB SWCs but keeps my airbag, a set of SpecB SWC switches, and a Metra Axxess ASWC-1 interface. Have been reading up all about others who added SWCs to other Subarus. There are more than a few inconsistencies in those existing threads. I'm not even sure that those installs actually work correctly as they said. I am reviewing through WRX and SpecB wiring diagrams now.

Specifically the task is my 2006 WRX, change steering wheel, reuse existing airbag, add 2006 Legacy SpecB SWC switches, harvest 2006 Legacy cruise switch connector, modify (or replace) roll connector to support 3 extra circuits, retain correct illumination function, add the ASWC-1, and connect to my Sony headunit. And have it all work like factory. I'd rather green illumination instead of red...but I will either live with red or change the surface mount LEDs later on.

Things I have to sort out still:
1)modify the roll connector or is there a suitable factory part instead?
2)the SWC switches are 5v (NOT 12v) source from the factory head units, is that going to be an issue, switch life, function, etc?
3)will the ASWC-1 auto program or will I have to manually setup?
4)the illumination circuit is Subaru's wonky backwards setup.
You could also source a complete LGT steering wheel , I have wanted to do something similar on my 2006 LGT wagon daily for a while but lack motivation due to its rust.
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Okay that sounds look I may check into them and see what is recommended.

The LGTspecB MOMO wheel itself was not really appealing to me. I was able to source a DAMD and plan to use that for this project. Just waiting on the SWC switches and a potential roll connector to show up.
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Started working with some of the SWC parts tonight and so far some positive results. The SWC modules do not fit as well as I would like in the Damd wheel. I can probably correct that later on. Also not sure why Damd did not take the opportunity to fix the upper spoke profile that Subaru effed up.

1)modify the roll connector or is there a suitable factory part instead?
I may have found another Subaru roll connector that will work after swapping an 8pin connector for the 6pin one my car needs. Plus it's not $300 from Subaru.

2)the SWC switches are 5v (NOT 12v) source from the factory head units, is that going to be an issue, switch life, function, etc?
3)will the ASWC-1 auto program or will I have to manually setup?
These should not be an issue. Learned more about how the ASWC-1 interface works.

4)the illumination circuit is Subaru's wonky backwards setup.
As long as there is a good ground path inside the wheel, I can run the two circuits to support Subaru dimming. Also decided that it is not worth swapping out the red surface mount LEDs for green. I'll just stick to the existing red.
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