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Old 12-26-2011, 07:04 PM   #6776
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This is quite possibly one of the most amusing things I have read on these forums in quite some time. I can't tell if you're being serious or not, but you're really concerned about what you think, or others think about the potential quality of a sun visor in your car?

Nobody in the history of mankind has ever bought a Subaru because they want to project some kind of class image, in fact, most people buy Subaru's for the opposite reason; because they want a no-frills, down to earth car.

Subaru enjoys a strange place in the car industry, a place where their buyers can typically afford a more expensive vehicle, but they instead opt for a brand that is less about perceived image and more about functionality.

BMW might be a brand worth shopping for you in the future.
You're right and... I was serious. I know what Subarus are made of and never question that but it does irritate me that a car a days should be built with minimal cosmetic flaws. Small things like the key thing not centered tells me that there might be something else in the car neglected that is bigger. I.E. Maybe something like the MC was neglected and now its been recalled which affected the sales and productions. If this was Roman Empire time, I'd ask myself do I buy the horses with the golden chariot with smooth ivory wheels or do I buy a pure breed stallion that can do anything from racing to hauling but its ears have been cut off. lol wouldn't that frustrate you?!

Said that, I went in today to finally sit in a limited, it wasn't a sport limited but it was close enough. It was very nice and I felt very comfortable. The interior looked very clean, simple, and easy on the eyes. The visor wasn't that bad either as others have said. I'm going to wait for my car.

...And I will be looking into buying a BMW in the future. Specifically the M3.
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I ordered the car in late October. I picked the extended warranty- I put a lot of miles on the car, so for me it seemed the best. The dealer is giving me the maintenance in addition. I figured I would throw that info out there in case it helps someone else.
No that's great! Thank you for sharing with us. I was just curious if the dealer gave you the two yr maintenance "for free in gratitude for waiting" without you knowing about the gift. Congrats!
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Old 12-26-2011, 07:21 PM   #6777
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Looks like the stock sport grill is painted ISM!
i ordered the same lights from the link you provided and it does not fit in the area you have them installed in. the width is OK but the height in way too tight and presses against the plastic making it bend a little. as the warning states in the instruction manual, i would think the heat would start to melt the plastic on the car.
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Old 12-27-2011, 12:50 AM   #6778
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We the fortune to tour the BMW factory in Greenville SC two weeks ago. It was a great expereince and yes, I too would like a BMW, but probably could not afford the insurance, much less the payments! That said we were very happy to pick up our new CRP limited today. I reset the MPG meter at the dealer and drove it about 36 miles on mostly in town freeways. The gauge shows 34MPG average - I am happy with that so far! What really makes me happy is that my wife really likes it, especially the visibility.
We never did receive the $500 "gift" certificate or email from SOA, but the dealer just added $500 dollars to our down payment and let us pick the accessories we wanted.
It took about 5 minutes to get used to the CVT and the steering (it is different!)
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Old 12-27-2011, 01:17 AM   #6779
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The Good:
So I must say that this car is a much improvement over the previous model. The CVT transmission take a little getting used to, but you eventually will get accustomed to it (I now understand why these are better on gas than the conventional 4EAT). Ride quality and handling are outstanding for a normal passenger car. Very quiet ride due to the sound deadening materials and such. Seats are very comfortable, especially on your butt. Halogen headlights are pretty decent to light up the road, hi-beams are good as well. The stock tires on the premium so far have been very good in the rain. Haven't tried them on the snow yet. Bluetooth audio streaming has been good with no skipping, however I wish there was a pause button or a mute with the stereo. Overall, a very well designed car.


The Bad:
On day two of ownership with 70 miles on the clock, I got an airbag malfunction light. I took it to the dealer that day and they scanned for codes and found NOTHING. This made me a bit uneasy. I had many email interactions with SOA about this, and they told me to bring it back to the dealer again for a more thorough examination. Again they came back to me and said the airbag system didn't have any codes and that the system was fully operational. Brought the car home and washed it, an hour later I found condensation in both front headlights and one of the rear taillights - not a happy camper. I was told that since there were no codes and they couldn't replicate the problem and the airbag system is functional. A week later goes by, and I got the airbag light on AGAIN. This time I took it to the dealership and they scanned for codes and found that there is something wrong with the passenger seat.

All this has put a bad taste in my mouth, I was told the car was fine when it in fact wasn't, I even documented EVERYTHING and took pictures.

So my car is at the dealership right now waiting for multiple repairs, the airbag system issue, the two headlights and rear taillight, the trip computer - and the car only has 500 miles on it. I have spent 10+ hours on the phone/email and at the dealership trying to deal with multiple problems with a car that is BRAND NEW. Oh I forgot to mention that when I got the car I noticed there were scratches on the trip computer.

I was elated when I found out I was one of the first in the country to take ownership of my '12 Impreza (I know there was that lady that got hers first), but with the past three weeks of dealing with these issues, I have a real sour taste in my mouth. So sour that after three new Subarus ('05 STi, '08 STI, '12 Impreza), this may be my last. Thank you for listening </rant>

SOA I hope you read this.
Does your state have a lemon law? Might be worth looking into.

It sounds like they have fixed everything for free though, and it sounds like you need to find a new dealer.
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Old 12-27-2011, 01:25 AM   #6780
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Does your state have a lemon law? Might be worth looking into.

It sounds like they have fixed everything for free though, and it sounds like you need to find a new dealer.
We will see how things pan out. The car has been at the dealership since last Thursday.
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Old 12-27-2011, 09:23 AM   #6781
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You do know that the sub-woofer for the 5-door is removable. I think that it involves three twist off knobs and then detaching the electrical plug.

Installation instructions can be found here:

http://techinfo.subaru.com/static/whatsNew.html
As much crap as I haul around in a weeks time. That would get old in about a month! LOL After the second time of removing and re-installing the back seat in my Jeep. I finally just left it the back of the garage and only put in back in when I need to haul people.
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Old 12-27-2011, 10:02 AM   #6782
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You're right and... I was serious. I know what Subarus are made of and never question that but it does irritate me that a car a days should be built with minimal cosmetic flaws. Small things like the key thing not centered tells me that there might be something else in the car neglected that is bigger. I.E. Maybe something like the MC was neglected and now its been recalled which affected the sales and productions. If this was Roman Empire time, I'd ask myself do I buy the horses with the golden chariot with smooth ivory wheels or do I buy a pure breed stallion that can do anything from racing to hauling but its ears have been cut off. lol wouldn't that frustrate you?!

Said that, I went in today to finally sit in a limited, it wasn't a sport limited but it was close enough. It was very nice and I felt very comfortable. The interior looked very clean, simple, and easy on the eyes. The visor wasn't that bad either as others have said. I'm going to wait for my car.

...And I will be looking into buying a BMW in the future. Specifically the M3.

You would be a perfect BMW owner. Too bad you can't practice double parking in handicapped spots in your Impreza.

Seriously though, even with the marked improvements to the Impeza line, it's still a cheap car by all other standards. You are going to spend literally twice as much for a BMW, but I think you'll be pleased now matter how the car is because BMW owners are always pleased with themselves. It's an expensive proposition not to be.

Good luck with whatever you buy or drive.
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Old 12-27-2011, 10:46 AM   #6783
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We the fortune to tour the BMW factory in Greenville SC two weeks ago. It was a great expereince and yes, I too would like a BMW, but probably could not afford the insurance, much less the payments! That said we were very happy to pick up our new CRP limited today. I reset the MPG meter at the dealer and drove it about 36 miles on mostly in town freeways. The gauge shows 34MPG average - I am happy with that so far! What really makes me happy is that my wife really likes it, especially the visibility.
We never did receive the $500 "gift" certificate or email from SOA, but the dealer just added $500 dollars to our down payment and let us pick the accessories we wanted.
It took about 5 minutes to get used to the CVT and the steering (it is different!)
insurance is not always higher with a BMW vs Honda, VW, Acura, Subaru...etc I've had several BMWs (new & pre-owned) in the past and the insurance rates were actually lower (approx100-150/yr) than the other cars i mentioned above. the /12 Impreza i just got is about $50-75 more per year than the '08 BMW 135i lease i returned.
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Old 12-27-2011, 11:05 AM   #6784
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I read that this forum advise us to tell the dealer not to put dealer badges and do not mount license plates

Is the front license holes pre-drilled at the factory? What if you live in VA/DC where front license is required? I'm just wondering what I should tell the dealer as my car is being factory ordered
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Old 12-27-2011, 11:09 AM   #6785
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I demanded that they not be drilled until they install the Front Plate Bracket. I do not like the look of the plates mounted directly on the bumper. I also demanded that the NO Dealer Stickers were to be applied to the car. I will look at possible color combinations and placement options before I decide if the sticker will be applied.
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Old 12-27-2011, 11:11 AM   #6786
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insurance is not always higher with a BMW vs Honda, VW, Acura, Subaru...etc I've had several BMWs (new & pre-owned) in the past and the insurance rates were actually lower (approx100-150/yr) than the other cars i mentioned above. the /12 Impreza i just got is about $50-75 more per year than the '08 BMW 135i lease i returned.
Bimmer,

Call your Insurance company and make sure that you new car is not listed in their database as a WRX. There have been a few snafu's reported regarding VIN mapping at some Insurance companies (USAA being one).
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Old 12-27-2011, 11:12 AM   #6787
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I picked up my Sport Premium on Thursday and it came with this spoiler



I really want this spoiler but my dealer says it's not available yet. But they seem to have no idea what it's called or when it will be ready.


I see that many people have this spoiler on their sport premium. Did you guys order it special? What is the official name of it so I can tell my dealer?
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Old 12-27-2011, 11:22 AM   #6788
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I see that many people have this spoiler on their sport premium. Did you guys order it special? What is the official name of it so I can tell my dealer?
http://www.cars101.com/subaru/imprez...12photos3.html
It's the optional rear spoiler. That's all I know of it being called, check the link and you will see the different options.
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Old 12-27-2011, 11:25 AM   #6789
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I read that this forum advise us to tell the dealer not to put dealer badges and do not mount license plates

Is the front license holes pre-drilled at the factory? What if you live in VA/DC where front license is required? I'm just wondering what I should tell the dealer as my car is being factory ordered
I sure hope that they aren't pre-drilled. Haven't ran a front plate in OH 20+ years.
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Old 12-27-2011, 11:39 AM   #6790
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I demanded that they not be drilled until they install the Front Plate Bracket. I do not like the look of the plates mounted directly on the bumper. I also demanded that the NO Dealer Stickers were to be applied to the car. I will look at possible color combinations and placement options before I decide if the sticker will be applied.
That is my question. How do they install a front plate bracket? Does that require drilling?
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Old 12-27-2011, 11:57 AM   #6791
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I really want this spoiler but my dealer says it's not available yet. But they seem to have no idea what it's called or when it will be ready.


I see that many people have this spoiler on their sport premium. Did you guys order it special? What is the official name of it so I can tell my dealer?
Ask and ye shall receive...
http://www.cars101.com/subaru/imprez...2.html#options


Just curious who at your dealer couldn't find the spoiler, was it just a sales person who may not have been motivated to go bug the parts department / service department (for something that doesn't pay him a check especially if you asked after Parts dept was closed)? Paying attention to details like this after the sale should determine which dealership keeps your service business for sure... Typically, you can find good deals with one one of the SOA parts distributors on this site and order it yourself and then confirm an installation price with the dealer if it's not a DIY job. At the very least, you now have that price in your back pocket from the link above.

If your dealer tries to charge something exhorbitant to order and install it, then that's pretty good confirmation to find another dealer for service or find a good aftermarket parts shop that can do the installs for you. I've had good luck using shops who do aftermarket installs of leather and more advanced interior work who also do installs of spoilers/side trim pieces, etc. They tend to have more skilled techs who know more than your exterior "fender and paint" type of aftermarket shop...
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Old 12-27-2011, 12:00 PM   #6792
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That is my question. How do they install a front plate bracket? Does that require drilling?
Mine came with pre-drilled (actually punched or formed) openings. I say openings because they are huge! Actually they are just large...

Like this:
http://www.cars101.com/subaru/imprez...portfront3.JPG

Maybe an opportunity for an aftermarket push in plug.
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Old 12-27-2011, 12:01 PM   #6793
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http://www.cars101.com/subaru/imprez...12photos3.html
It's the optional rear spoiler. That's all I know of it being called, check the link and you will see the different options.
Its on the Subaru site as an accessory. Roof Spoiler.
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Old 12-27-2011, 12:03 PM   #6794
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That is my question. How do they install a front plate bracket? Does that require drilling?
There are pre-punched holes that will align exactly with the Front Plate bracket; however, will not properly align with a license plate.

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Old 12-27-2011, 12:53 PM   #6795
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Roof Spoiler MSRP: $299.38 (part only)

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E7210FJ600U7 Deep Cherry Pearl
E7210FJ600TQ Ice Silver Metallic
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I picked up my Sport Premium on Thursday and it came with this spoiler



I really want this spoiler but my dealer says it's not available yet. But they seem to have no idea what it's called or when it will be ready.


I see that many people have this spoiler on their sport premium. Did you guys order it special? What is the official name of it so I can tell my dealer?
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Old 12-27-2011, 01:10 PM   #6796
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It looks like it sticks on top of the standard spoiler?
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Old 12-27-2011, 01:21 PM   #6797
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My garage now, Ruby and Steffi


I just installed the baby seat last night, quite a bit more room in the front seat with the car seat behind it than the STi has.
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Old 12-27-2011, 01:26 PM   #6798
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It looks like it sticks on top of the standard spoiler?
yeah, that's how mine looks too. I ordered mine with the optional wing, it should be available from your dealer right now.
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Old 12-27-2011, 01:27 PM   #6799
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My garage now, Ruby and Steffi


I just installed the baby seat last night, quite a bit more room in the front seat with the car seat behind it than the STi has.
Dude, you have a lift in your garage? Pics!!
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insurance is not always higher with a BMW vs Honda, VW, Acura, Subaru...etc I've had several BMWs (new & pre-owned) in the past and the insurance rates were actually lower (approx100-150/yr) than the other cars i mentioned above. the /12 Impreza i just got is about $50-75 more per year than the '08 BMW 135i lease i returned.
The thing that blows my mind. I quoted a Outback as well as an Impreza. The Outback was about $150 cheaper every 6 than an Impreza.
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