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Old 08-31-2015, 08:52 PM   #26
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Bashing another product makes your option look even worse. Great job.

When trying to further yourself it's best to not disgust people who could have potentially helped you.
Ah, looks like you edited after I quoted... what are you helping me with exactly? I mean, what were you going to help me with before I disgusted you? How am I furthering myself? I just saw a thread i posted in months ago bumped and thought, wow that's a plug if I've ever seen one and thought i'd post something interesting/funny I found.

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Since he's writing the code it seems obvious he's already coded failsafes. I know I already did.
Well, what's obvious to you may not be obvious to others.

Open source though, share the love on how you did it, right? So maybe help out your fellow OS guys.
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Old 08-31-2015, 09:33 PM   #27
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Ah, looks like you edited after I quoted... what are you helping me with exactly? I mean, what were you going to help me with before I disgusted you? How am I furthering myself? I just saw a thread i posted in months ago bumped and thought, wow that's a plug if I've ever seen one and thought i'd post something interesting/funny I found.



Well, what's obvious to you may not be obvious to others.

Open source though, share the love on how you did it, right? So maybe help out your fellow OS guys.
Chooch, just stop. I've been around long enough to know you're just wasting your time, which is worth more than defending or defaming products no matter whose they are, the products will speak for themselves and people will make their own decisions good or bad. Thanks in advance!
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Old 09-01-2015, 01:07 AM   #28
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They are all great products. Starting fights is asinine.
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Old 09-01-2015, 03:30 AM   #29
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Eh that oven looks like it's plenty for such a simple job. I think I see a temperature sensing circuit there so hitting the right temps shouldn't be a problem. I'd personally put them on a non wired oven tray so there'd be no cold spots but what do I know.

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Old 09-01-2015, 08:06 AM   #30
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Eh that oven looks like it's plenty for such a simple job. I think I see a temperature sensing circuit there so hitting the right temps shouldn't be a problem.
in addition to the thermocouple, notice how the LCD on the oven says "ReFlo."

obviously ironic to criticise a bang for the buck DIY flex fuel solution for using parts made in a bang for the buck DIY reflow soldering solution.
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Old 09-02-2015, 01:23 AM   #31
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Well said there... Using the correct profile is needed to get the correct reflow of solder joints in electronic connections specially in surface mount technology.
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Old 09-04-2015, 03:13 PM   #32
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Chooch, just stop. I've been around long enough to know you're just wasting your time, which is worth more than defending or defaming products no matter whose they are, the products will speak for themselves and people will make their own decisions good or bad. Thanks in advance!
but it's cheap amusement. I'll get back on topic.

The Delicious flex fuel kit on the WRX has been running well for the past 6 months, I haven't had any issues. It runs really strong with 70% ethanol or above.

Thanks again for letting me be the guinea pig for this. To be able to fill up with E85 and not have to worry or do anything about mixing is awesome, not to mention the power and grin it adds to my face.
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Old 09-04-2015, 08:31 PM   #33
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but it's cheap amusement. I'll get back on topic.

The Delicious flex fuel kit on the WRX has been running well for the past 6 months, I haven't had any issues. It runs really strong with 70% ethanol or above.

Thanks again for letting me be the guinea pig for this. To be able to fill up with E85 and not have to worry or do anything about mixing is awesome, not to mention the power and grin it adds to my face.
Cool story bro...do some searching and you'll see people doing the same on OS without spending ($700+?).
FYI you don't "HAVE" to use that cable but not sure why you'd go thru the hassle to do anything else for the price/ease. There's fail safes in place if there is a issue and even if you had to buy more than one...or two..or three...or..you see where I'm going right

Sounds like you wanna just swing on Delicious's nuts while bashing the OS option without all the info.

Delicious does seem to have a good option but the price doesn't make sense for everyone. Once/if cobb comes out with flex fuel it will become obsolete...that's the only reason why I'd justify the price IMO. If you can't wait and have the cash this is a great system.
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Old 09-05-2015, 07:37 PM   #34
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Once/if cobb comes out with flex fuel it will become obsolete...that's the only reason why I'd justify the price IMO. If you can't wait and have the cash this is a great system.
Agree unfortunately.
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Old 09-06-2015, 07:36 PM   #35
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I will not admit that, because there are too many variables involved and I have no samples for quality control testing, so that raises lots of questions...

How well will these perform with repeated temperature cycling? Is the profile correct for the solder material being used? Is the toaster oven convection based or radiant? Does it have hot or cold spots. All these things can lead to defects later on that may not be apparent during initial testing to inexperienced/untrained eyes. What I can admit is this, yeah the components are on the PCB and probably have continuity, that's only half the battle to having a high quality PCB assembly.

If your defect ratio is high enough, using a toaster oven costing thousands of dollars less is not worth it. Especially, if someone has a high ethanol percentage in their fuel and your board goes kaput, now your engine is running extremely lean and you could blow your motor! Who are they going to come looking for to replace their motor?

Most importantly... is the bagel setting being used?!


I would be willing to bet that a lot of popular/quality surface mount electronics are produced in a reflow oven like mine. My oven has been extensively modified, it is radiant with convection, and it follows the temperature profile suggested by the solder manufacturer very closely. I use a k-type thermocouple and a micro controller with code that I wrote to control the oven temperature. It works very well actually and I always inspect the solder joints afterward even though I have not once had an issue. I always opt for high quality electronics components (including ENIG PCB boards) with tighter tolerances and my modules are designed with extensive input/output protection and filtering which is more than I can say for other similar brands that I have seen.


I haven't had one single issue or complaint with my products and I market them primarily toward people that use *MY* custom Subaru ROM that offers *FREE* flex fuel capability along with a ton of other features that nobody else offers, even while charging $600+.

You bash my product and say that the delicious tuning kit is so much better even though my solution for 02-05wrx and JDM/EDM/ADM STI is a 100% true flex fuel system that works better and has more flexability than delicious piggback/haltech/aem/proefi (yes I have tuned on all those systems). While delicious tuning's product offers a piggyback system that tricks the ecu into flex fuel operation by altering the IAT input (making speed density impossible). Granted I have nothing against delicious tuning's product (I even had the same idea but decided not to go through with offering the product), but its an inferior solution for flex fuel without question.


My system also has a failsafe built into the module and the ecu rom, unlike the delicious tuning product.



Also, if you are going to creep my facebook to get information that you want to use to bash my products then kindly let me know your facebook name so I can block you.



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Old 09-06-2015, 08:37 PM   #36
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Jason, I have emailed you about your product. When you can would like to get an invoice of parts needed to swap into my Jdm sti v7 swap thanks man
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Old 09-08-2015, 06:28 PM   #37
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but it's cheap amusement.
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the products will speak for themselves and people will make their own decisions good or bad. Thanks in advance!
Yes they do, hence why you and your nut hanger won't post in this thread anymore
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Old 09-09-2015, 01:18 PM   #38
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Yes they do, hence why you and your nut hanger won't post in this thread anymore
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Old 09-18-2018, 08:51 PM   #39
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Itís been a few years. Any other options for flex for bugeyes besides Carberry and DT setup?
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Old 10-15-2018, 05:11 PM   #40
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I absolutely love mine! Best mod I've done.
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