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Old 10-10-2017, 08:34 AM   #1
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Almost a week after catching a first glimpse of the Mission E, today we bring news about another fully electric car from Porsche. Only a concept, the Cayman-based e-volution serves as a research vehicle and is currently on display in Germany at the Electric Vehicle Symposium in Stuttgart. While it may look like a fairly standard pre-facelift Cayman (981) with some green accents inherited from the 918 Spyder, itís actually significantly different underneath the familiar skin.

With this being a fully electric vehicle, it goes without saying the ďTurbo ChargingĒ lettering on the doors does not refer to the powertrainís forced induction. Itís there to denote the conceptís charging voltage of 800 volts and serves as preview for the Mission Eís Porsche Turbo Charging system capable of recharging the battery pack to an 80 percent level in just 15 minutes.

Porsche is making it crystal clear the Cayman e-volution is not destined for production as itís only a stepping stone for EV development. The future is exciting if we take into account the all-electric coupe is seriously quick by reaching 62 mph (100 kph) in only 3.3 seconds or 1.3s less than todayís 718 Cayman in the hot S specification.

With a full charge, the unspecified battery pack can last for up to 124 miles (200 kilometers), which isnít very impressive, but bear in mind this is merely a research vehicle. As a reminder, the aforementioned Mission E due in 2019 will do 311 miles (500 km) between charges.

For the first time, the sports car marque is showcasing at the Electric Vehicle Symposium an accumulator-based fast-charging system developed by Porsche Engineering in collaboration with ADS-TEC. Tailored to areas where power limitations are affecting the distribution system, this version of the Porsche Turbo Charging system can achieve a maximum charging capacity of 320 kW for a single electric car or twice 160 kW.

Porsche has made the promise it will be put to good use as a supplement to a high-power fast-charging network with medium voltage connection and one of these networks will be operational by 2020 on important traffic routes in Europe. To make it happen, Porsche has joined forces not only with Audi part of the same VW Group, but also with BMW, Daimler, and Ford.

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Porsche Shows Cayman E-Volution Prototype At EV Symposium

Porsche, of all automakers, offers a number of electrified vehicles. It has yet put a pure EV into production, or base on on the 718. But that's just what we have here. It's the Cayman E-Volution, and it's part of Porsche's display at the Electric Vehicle Symposium in its home town of Stuttgart.

The prototype appears to be based not on the new 718 Cayman (internally dubbed 982), but on the previous 981 model. Only instead of a boxer six (or the newer model's turbo four), the E-Volution is all-electric.

Don't think that means it's slow, though: in fact, with a 0-62 time quoted at 3.3 seconds, it'll beat any gasoline-powered Cayman to date off the line Ė quicker than the 4.2 seconds it takes for either the previous Cayman GT4 or the new 718 Cayman S to come up to speed.

It'll also travel for 200 kilometers (124 miles) on a full charge, which is a fair bit better than most EVs you can buy. Unfortunately the Cayman E-Volution won't see production, but Porsche is working hard at bringing its Mission E concept to market Ė with an even better range.

The manufacturer says the production Mission E electric sports car will boast a range of 500 kilometers (310 miles), putting it right in Tesla territory (the Model 3 offering the same, and the Model S up to 335). With the new accumulator-based charging network Porsche is working on installing across Europe (together with Audi, BMW, Mercedes, and Ford), it'll also charge up from empty to 80 percent of capacity in just 15 minutes.


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I don't care, it doesn't have tiny explosions.
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I don't care, it doesn't have tiny explosions.
I'm sure they can pipe audio through the speakers for you to simulate mini explosions.
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I'm sure they can pipe audio through the speakers for you to simulate mini explosions.
What the **** is this, a BMW?
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The neat thing about electric motors is that it will be a lot easier to fit future upgrades to a particular car. Doing a battery swap or an electric motor swap for aftermarket will be cleaner and simpler than replacing a piston engine. They may even get fairly standardized.

We'll need new metrics for comparing cars since everything will have rocket-ship-like acceleration if you want it.
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Crackle box mounted to the rear bumper for snap crackle popcorn in microwave on throttle lift. hmm, what else for you romper wearing adult babies? Make the motor more whiney like a supercharger with a sound generator/shaker mounted behind the seats? Remove squeal seal on the brakes? Plexi windows for more road noise?
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Crackle box mounted to the rear bumper for snap crackle popcorn in microwave on throttle lift. hmm, what else for you romper wearing adult babies? Make the motor more whiney like a supercharger with a sound generator/shaker mounted behind the seats? Remove squeal seal on the brakes? Plexi windows for more road noise?
mud. lots of mud. for them to remain stuck.
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As electric becomes more integrated into vehicles, I wonder what impact it will have on the service department. I could be way off but it seems like a whole hell of a lot less maintenance and parts that can fail, or am I wrong?
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There's that whole lithium bomb on board problem though isn't there?
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As electric becomes more integrated into vehicles, I wonder what impact it will have on the service department. I could be way off but it seems like a whole hell of a lot less maintenance and parts that can fail, or am I wrong?
Not wrong. EVs are vastly more simple and reliable than their endangered counterparts.
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Had this disc. With no ICE in Ca. Etc. The Auto is big part of the economy you hear a lot numbers about carbon, dyno juice not used, how about some real numbers revenue, taxes lost. Whoís going to do up an old ICE if itís out law. Machine shops, valves, insurance , tires, so on.
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Had this disc. With no ICE in Ca. Etc. The Auto is big part of the economy you hear a lot numbers about carbon, dyno juice not used, how about some real numbers revenue, taxes lost. Whoís going to do up an old ICE if itís out law. Machine shops, valves, insurance , tires, so on.
Don't you know, humans are a burden on the world. We are secondary to the cause.
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Had this disc. With no ICE in Ca. Etc. The Auto is big part of the economy you hear a lot numbers about carbon, dyno juice not used, how about some real numbers revenue, taxes lost. Whoís going to do up an old ICE if itís out law. Machine shops, valves, insurance , tires, so on.
I think the Auto Industry will go the way of just about everything else has in the last couple of decades. It will be about the software, not the hardware most times.

The ICE will be around for another 50 - 100 years, but they will become collectables and for the hobbiest, not mainstream owners.

The nice thing for those who keep working on the ICE's is they will be come boutique shops, more than general trade shops. More money for less work.
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I am very much a car guy, I actually enjoy working on my vintage pile of rust almost as much as I enjoy driving it - I welcome a relatively quick & well handling EV that I can daily & enjoy simply to reduce the amount of time & effort I put towards maintaining it so I can work on & drive my old junk more.
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Had this disc. With no ICE in Ca. Etc. The Auto is big part of the economy you hear a lot numbers about carbon, dyno juice not used, how about some real numbers revenue, taxes lost. Who’s going to do up an old ICE if it’s out law. Machine shops, valves, insurance , tires, so on.
The death of one industry is the birth of another. Try not to get caught up looking at your tail.

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I'm sure they're planning on just putting this drivetrain in a super expensive larger vehicle so that they can recoup some of their R&D costs... An E-cayman is likely in the future.
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It could if they buy batteries from Samsung.
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The death of one industry is the birth of another. Try not to get caught up looking at your tail.

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I'm sure they're planning on just putting this drivetrain in a super expensive larger vehicle so that they can recoup some of their R&D costs... An E-cayman is likely in the future.
Where did I state the death of an Industry? AVANTI means Forward


Here is a good read..but itís off this original topic

http://www.adlittle.us/uploads/tx_ex...ber_292016.pdf

And what started the original disc like I stated in my comment
https://blog.cargurus.com/2017/10/09...l-classic-cars
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I can tell that article was written with the author's self interest in mind.

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This could have disastrous effects on not only the values of classic cars, but on their very existence. What if a trend emerges where young adults start swapping out original drivetrains in classic cars for modern ones? That already limited supply of original classics would be depleted, and the ones that are left could become undesirable.
Wouldn't the fact that someone was willing to take the time and make the effort to do such items that someone would find it desirable?
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I can tell that article was written with the author's self interest in mind.

This could have disastrous effects on not only the values of classic cars, but on their very existence. What if a trend emerges where young adults start swapping out original drivetrains in classic cars for modern ones? That already limited supply of original classics would be depleted, and the ones that are left could become undesirable.


Wouldn't the fact that someone was willing to take the time and make the effort to do such items that someone would find it desirable?
EV west has been doing that for a while. making some amazing swaps.
http://www.electricgt.com/308-2/
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