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02-08-2017, 02:34 PM | #51 | |
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02-08-2017, 02:39 PM | #52 | |
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What year do you think it is? At some point, you're going to have to let the stereotypes go and reality set back in. I said the EJ255/7 has reliability issues, not the STI as a whole. It most certainly does. The later TSIs are very well built, and aren't prone to detonation (and cracked pistons) like the over-square EJ25. They haven't see nearly the same issues as the EJ255/7. They were built from the ground-up to be turbocharged, whereas moving the EJ20 to a 2.5l, without being able to expand the stroke, created issues. But anyway, great contribution(!) Last edited by SoapBox; 02-08-2017 at 02:46 PM. |
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02-08-2017, 02:46 PM | #53 | |
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02-08-2017, 02:51 PM | #54 |
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Done with VW. If they made a Jetta-R that would be a different story... I don't do hatchbacks.
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02-08-2017, 02:53 PM | #55 | |
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You want to turn this into some "German over-complicated, unreliable" pissing match. No thanks. We're talking SPECIFICALLY about the motor. There's nothing more complicated about the FA20DIT than the TSI, so stop. The new TSIs haven't been failing, so stop. Stop making **** up. And if you haven't looked in the last, oh 5 years, Subaru reliability ratings aren't exactly what they used to be. Not that you would. If anything, you should be happy. I've told him I think the WRX is the no-brainer choice in his situation. Last edited by SoapBox; 02-08-2017 at 03:05 PM. |
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02-08-2017, 03:04 PM | #56 | |
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02-10-2017, 08:46 AM | #57 |
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I'm actually in the market for a golf tdi. Extremely hard to find them now.. Should have pulled the plug during the fall of 16.
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02-10-2017, 09:51 AM | #58 | |
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Same reason insurance is more expensive for people under 25. If S4's or 340's costs $35k bran new, guess what. . . . they'd have 'reliability' issues as well. I mean for god's sake, what year did they start putting a rev limiter on the engine? Why do you think they did that? Because when people over rev it and blow it up they get on a forum and discuss the reliability of the EJ rather than recognizing they are morons and don't understand what reciprocation is and why there is a limit of safe operation. Or they tune the crap out of it for max power on a piece of paper and don't realize THEY are responsible for the detonation, not the f-ing bore/stroke ratio. Tune any motor on earth for max power right on the brink of detonation and the pistons will fail. Do that to the FA and the pistons will fail. |
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02-11-2017, 12:35 AM | #59 |
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I am a huge Subaru fan and have owned 5 subaru's over the last 12 years. I wanted to buy another Subaru, but I was mad when subaru did not update to a modern engine in the sti. I am also mad they do not offer a hatch in wrx/sti. So I bought a ford focus rs. I put my money where my mouth was. I paid under msrp. Why not cross shop focus rs? Go test drive one.
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02-11-2017, 03:21 PM | #60 | |
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Also, you might want to take a look at this. As far as reliability is concerned, Subaru and VW are about equal. And they're both pretty far down the list. http://www.jdpower.com/press-release...lity-study-vds Aren't facts and figures fun? |
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02-11-2017, 03:55 PM | #61 | |
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02-11-2017, 05:57 PM | #62 | |
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You claimed Subaru has much better reliability. I showed you that's not true, yet you choose to ignore that. Can't reason with a fanboy. Not sure why I even try. |
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02-11-2017, 08:33 PM | #63 | |
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Plenty of piston failures occur at stock power, as any search will reveal. There's a gigantic thread on it. As respected tuners have attested to, as SOA employees have admitted. For the, what, 5th time, post your god damn ME diploma, or edit your completely BS profile. Seriously, we live in the same town. I'll stop by your office. You claim to be an ME, yet lack even the most basic knowledge of physics. The bore/stroke ratio of an engine has no effect on the tendency of an engine to detonate? Really? Really? You actually want to post that on a public forum? Embarrass yourself more... I'm serious, enough already. You are confronted with well-understood principles and explanations of root-causes of issues, and your responses are limited to "nu-uh!". Like a freaking 10 year old girl. Either post rational thoughts, supported by physics, or S T F U. AKA...tell us how an over-square engine isn't more prone to detonation, despite that it has always been well-established that it is. This is like the 5th time I've called you out for being a complete fraud. Post your ME degree. I'm happy to do the same. Yeah, I'm mad. This JO is freaking unbelievable. Last edited by SoapBox; 02-11-2017 at 09:11 PM. |
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02-12-2017, 03:09 PM | #64 | |
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02-12-2017, 05:48 PM | #65 | |
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That being said, not sure why you chime in relying on the reliability of your WRX, when we're taking about the STI here. You simply can't make blanket statements about entire brands based off your individual experience. The fact is, as a whole, VW has gotten better, Subaru has gotten worse. Is Subaru still the more reliable brand, as a whole? OK, sure. But that doesn't mean you recommend buying an STI over something like an R based on reliability. |
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02-12-2017, 08:01 PM | #66 | |
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02-13-2017, 06:19 AM | #67 | |
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You really think I got my level of knowledge in school? Or maybe it was from being in a manufacturing plant every day for 13 years AFTER school? You on the other hand. . . .school and nothing more but internet forums. If you had to take your suit off and step into my world and run a plant with 30-60 guys and dozens of pieces of equipment you've never even heard of let alone understand you'd fall flat or your face dude. . . .it would be such a miserable failure and embarrassment I would be embarrassed for you, and in the end I'd probably feel bad about putting you in a position that had no chance of success. But the sad part is, you'd probably still agree to it because you are still at the level of a 22 year old who thinks he knows it all because he's never done it. |
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02-13-2017, 07:09 AM | #68 | |
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Buy a 19 year old and bran new M3 and wait and see if it has reliability issues. Here's an example that may help you understand. 90% of bone fractures of children age 15 and under are that of males, 10% of bone fractures are females. So cheesebox, tell me, does that mean that boys have weaker bones than girls? Or do you think maybe there is something else skewing the 'well documented' statistic? Because it is 'well documented' as you pointed out about EJ pistons. It may actually be even MORE documented, so I guess that's it. Case closed. Boys have weaker bones than girls. Odd factoid huh? Makes me think that my big human brain should be telling me there is another factor influencing the outcome, but I'm having trouble figuring it out since my name is Cheesebox and I have a piece of paper that says I'm an expert and I think that piece of paper means something despite no real world experience going along with it. RTV: 3 Cheesebox: 0 |
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02-13-2017, 08:56 AM | #69 |
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What made you think the 5th pissing match about EJ25 engine design was going to go any different than the 1st 4 arguments?
Even if you are right, you are still losing. If you wrestle around with the pigs in the mud, after while it is hard differentiate yourself from the pigs. |
02-14-2017, 01:21 AM | #70 |
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WELL Anyways, my plans have changed. I got a promotion today which involves me driving 200 miles to work and, you guessed it, 200 miles back home from work. At least this is only once a week. I need to crunch some numbers and see how much that will affect my TDI buyback money but the WRX is definitely going to be my choice. Buyback amount is not supposed to change unless you drive more than 1000 miles/month. I would be driving more than that. Even though TDI is much better on gas it will probably hurt my buyback amount. So I'll probably say bye bye to it and get a WRX.
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02-14-2017, 06:38 AM | #71 | |
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For instance if you are just over one of the 5000 mileage tiers, then you could drive 1042/month plus 4000 and the buyback wouldn't be affected. On the other hand if your are just under one of the 5000 mileage tier, 1050 could push you into the next tier. Atlas my observation a change of one tiers affect the buyback value by about $300-600. |
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02-14-2017, 08:56 AM | #72 | |
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Unless you are being compensated in some other fashion, you should be getting mileage compensation for that driving. I did, and it worked out great to be honest. I was driving a 2003 vehicle, so it was worthless anyway but ran fine, so basically 100 miles of driving covered my fuel, and the rest was made money. Obviously in your case it will affect your buyback, but if you are being compensated for the mileage you will make that back probably at least twice over in a fuel efficient vehicle. |
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02-14-2017, 12:42 PM | #73 |
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I have to wait until June to sell my TDI back which royally sucks. I just finished removing all the suspension parts off it last weekend so now it has to rot in my driveway forever.
It is completely insane what they are paying out for the cars. I actually thought about getting a 2017 GTI but then what would I do with my WRX? |
05-19-2017, 03:21 PM | #74 |
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ordered a 2018 ice silver STI limited. Pretty psyched. I'm cool with the EJ. Going to get the extended warranty.
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