Tesla Catch All Thread. Hate us cause you ain’t us.

[Masterauto]

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[godfather2112]

Originally Posted by Pre

You don't know Fort Worth and you don't know San Antonio worth a got damn
Property prices have gone way up, as well as taxes, and traffic. I have multiple friends in both areas man. I didn't fly in for a wee visit one day. Yeah you can get property less expensive than Commiefornia, sure. That's why all those ass holes are moving here. But it's to the point now, you aren't going to be close, you are going to have to move out a considerable distance, out to the sticks. And you'll be stuck with the rest of the busters in bumper to bumper trying to get to work. Kalifornians have ruined TX. Many of us natives are already looking out of state. My taxes are up a few k a year now, traffic out the ass around me. It sucks, it's ruined living here. Fort Worth used to be my stomping grounds. I spent the 90's there as well as Dallas and San Antonio. I've seen the changes and population increases first hand.






Yup. They have also invaded Phoenix, Austin, Dallas, Denver, Salt Lake City, Boise, the list keeps on growing. They are a POS fungi that keeps spreading.



My favorite story is a guy who is like a little brother to me. He's in Austin, married, 3 kids. The boy, was out shooting his Red Rider like BB gun in the back yard. Manual lever action, one shot, manual **** it, etc. He is shooting it at a tree in the backyard where he has placed a target. The neighbor across the street calls 911 and says someone is shooting up the neighborhood with a gun. APD rolls, multiple cars, big scene. APD goes to my friend, they discuss, eventually, after the whole street of neighbors has come out to check out what is going on, APD tells this Commiefornia lady it's the neighbors boy shooting a target in their back yard with a BB gun and they aren't going to do anything. APD is pissed off at their wasted time, and ultimately split, no tickets, no nothing, they tell my friend sorry for the whole thing. He walks over to this lady's yard and she says "I'm sorry, I'm from California, guns scare me" and blah blah blah. He says he and his son are not doing anything illegal, deal with it.



Now I read and hear they are up in Austin whining about the property taxes. Our property taxes here are much larger than Commiestan. So a bunch of Cali people are in Austin leading legislation to try and reduce. This is the problem with these people, and a problem in the cities above. They move to an area like a virus, and try to turn it into their liberal bs place they moved from instead of melting into the pot they moved to. Traffic is awful here, night and day difference compared to 5 years ago and my property taxes are through the roof. We now have bumper stickers I'm seeing that say Go Back To California.

Property taxes have always been an issue in Texas, that***8217;s not really anything new. I***8217;ve spent a decent amount of time in Fort Worth and San Antonio (recently) and also looked at property. Property is still pretty damn cheap considering how much land and a new home. Hell, it***8217;s cheaper than Salt Lake City! Traffic, yeah, it***8217;s getting up there but still not horrible in San Antonio. Fort Worth is still pretty good with traffic and property is cheap as ****! Again, it might be relative what ***8220;cheap***8221; is but it***8217;s less than Utah, less than Noeth Carolina. You could move to Nebraska, New Mexico or some other dump for cheap living but Teas is still very affordable. Maybe not Austin or Dallas.

Originally Posted by Masterauto

TESLA BMOC https://www.visualcapitalist.com/tes...ble-automaker/

Just like I***8217;ve told Juan, this is not a copy paste a link forum. Either add meaningful commentary or don***8217;t post. I***8217;ve pointed you before for trolling with this stuff, I***8217;ve pointed Juan as well. Juan at least has understood and stopped.... for the most part.


Thanks Juan. I hope you know it***8217;s never personal, it***8217;s just trying to keep this productive

[n7slc]

Originally Posted by godfather2112

Hell, it’s cheaper than Salt Lake City!

That’s for damn sure. I live in Bluffdale and my son and his wife lived with us for several years in order to save the down for a townhouse. The price was just $30k less than my house 10-years ago. It’s shocking to see how high prices have gone.

On topic, my boss stopped by this week with his Model 3. It’s a cool car, but my WRX is still better looking. ***129315;

[mhoward1]

Originally Posted by godfather2112

it’s less than Utah, less than Noeth Carolina.

Yep. .

[godfather2112]

Originally Posted by n7slc

That’s for damn sure. I live in Bluffdale and my son and his wife lived with us for several years in order to save the down for a townhouse. The price was just $30k less than my house 10-years ago. It’s shocking to see how high prices have gone.

On topic, my boss stopped by this week with his Model 3. It’s a cool car, but my WRX is still better looking. ***129315;

Utah is due for a housing correction.

Originally Posted by mhoward1

Yep. .

You shut your whore mouth! You know what I meant ***128514;

[mhoward1]

Originally Posted by godfather2112

Utah is due for a housing correction.



You shut your whore mouth! You know what I meant ***128514;

That was two fold. Agreed with the pricing too.

[Keshav]

This is a German article translated by someone posting to reddit.

https://www.elektroauto-news.net/202...es-wird-blutig

Part 1

I am writing this article full of anger as a German about the German automotive industry.

The octopus is one of the most fascinating and intelligent animals of our seas. Scientists predict that if they didn't die so early after the birth of the new generation, they would become "the people of the sea" because of their ability to learn, and would dominate all other marine animals, whether small or large, as humans do on solid ground.

An octopus has 8 arms, hence the name Octo, and each arm has its own little brain that controls that arm. These 8 brains communicate with a central brain, and the scientists have not really figured out how the coordination of the brains works and why their arms do not get in their way all the time.

"The established car industry, trying to develop a competitive electric car, has exactly the same challenge. But there, the "arms" are still in the way, are not coordinated and use up the available energy in a vehicle much too fast."

German auto industry is like an uncoordinated octopus

Traditionally, in the last decades and since software has dominated more and more devices in our lives, each small automotive function has been given its own chip, software and computer, but they do not communicate with each other and when they do, their different languages prevent them from doing so. This is how the industry has developed over the last, say, 40 years.

Consider the squid arms in our analogy as different functional segments and subsystems in a vehicle. Each has a well-defined purpose, and as the combustion industry has matured and no real new innovations are taking place, each of these subsystems has been outsourced to suppliers who offer it better, faster and at lower cost. 90% of all VW software and 70% of all parts are now outsourced to suppliers. A real win-win situation. Welcome to the world of low vertical integration and slow innovation.

Depending on the model, up to a few hundred chips today separately manage a complex network in your vehicle, but it is not coordinated or even centralized. Thousands of suppliers are involved, some working together, some independent. What they all have in common is that all the systems only function in their own area and do not communicate with a central computer or, to use my analogy again, the central brain of our octopus.

This was the world in which the German car industry lived undisturbed until Tesla delivered his first electric car. Tesla was the first company to bring a vehicle to market that was developed with a high degree of vertical integration around a central computer that manages and combines all main and auxiliary functions. You can't see this from the outside, so people still don't understand why a Tesla should be so different. However, they learn it the moment they put their foot on the gas pedal for the first time and they learn it quickly.

This design allows you to change the stopping distance, range or acceleration just by a new software update that enters your vehicle through the air, almost magically, just like Harry Potter changes reality with his wand in his hand whispering a spell. It reduces costs, makes your vehicle safer and offers you new functionality and efficiency because someone at the Tesla-Fremont factory in California, USA literally presses a single button.

Tesla changed the rules of the automotive business with a tool called software.

To counter the challenger, the established car industry activated what it does best, namely its supplier base. They asked their thousands of suppliers if they could develop something similar, and the suppliers confirmed convincingly: "Yes, we can", without knowing exactly what they had actually committed themselves to.

Ten years later, the largest and best R&D departments in the automotive industry are unveiling vehicles that are nowhere near the 2012 Model S from Tesla. Peter Mertens, former Head of R&D and Member of the Board of Management of Audi in June 2020:

"I say this with honesty, in my own responsibility we have all slept to a certain extent, and that is not only the automotive industry, but above all the suppliers".

And he continues, "I made the wrong decisions. We trusted too much that the suppliers would somehow make it."

For 10 years, the supplier industry improved and optimized its subsystems in the existing IT and software infrastructure of the vehicles, claiming that if they made enough effort, they could build an integrated digitized vehicle that could do everything a Tesla has done for a decade. The top managers of the German automotive industry decided to use their strength from the world of combustion engines and to work with existing and new suppliers.

The suppliers have improved the vehicle's subsystems instead of starting a completely new 'green field' design with an integrated software architecture around custom chips and technology. Their rationale for this decision is simple: revenue and profit.

Congratulations, dear car managers, you have just asked a 'vampire to manage your blood bank'.

At this point at the latest, I would have expected that car managers would realize that they are asking the wrong person to solve their problem, namely their supplier.

Today, all these managers have left or were left, and their predecessors did not dare or did not know how to come to terms with the past, and for this reason, among others, they have not started a revolution, but are continuing a slow process of improvement; an evolution for which they have no time. It's a task of decades to build up competencies that don't exist and to reduce the number of suppliers but top managers are usually not in their position for that long so why should they start something that only causes problems and costs in the beginning and for whose success someone else will 'take the credit' later on?

Time - the missing commodity of the automotive industry

Time is the most precious and sought-after capital, which the automotive industry does not have in sufficient quantity today. Time is an asset that cannot be bought with all the money the car industry has. You will not solve the software problem by swamping it with money and resources when you run out of time. VW wants to spend 7 billion Euro in 4 years to develop an integrated operating system for its vehicles.

"It will take years before we have reached the level of software know-how necessary to compete at the top," said Herbert Diess, Chairman of the Board of Management of the VW Group in June 2020. And further: "Even today, hardly a line of software code comes from us".

Without software, you lose the most valuable asset you have as a consumer-oriented company: access to your customers.

Without software, you lose the gold of the digital age: customer data.

Without software you are only what is left without it, a company that assembles low profit metal boxes, and low profit metal boxes are an interchangeable commodity.

In the future, the German automotive industry runs the risk of producing nothing but worthless zombies without brains (computers) and blood (data).

Software is made by software developers, not hardware managers!

After 20 years in the software industry, I can confirm that software is nothing magic, but only a technology. To manage software, you need software engineers and a software organization. If you allow hardware managers in a hardware organization to manage your software, how can you expect success?

10 years after the established industry failed to develop a working IT and software operating system for their electric cars, they are still repeating the same mistake of outsourcing the piece of technology that is critical to success, profits and their future.

The planned software cooperation between BMW and Daimler ended before it started, leaving only the option of using suppliers as cost was one of the main reasons for the cooperation approach. Meanwhile, VW announces to invest 7 billion Euro with the help of 10.000 IT employees until 2025 to realize an operating system for their vehicles for which a Tesla needed a fraction of the resources.

Automobile managers who know how to develop combustion vehicles and who have been successful in this environment were and still are responsible for the software organizations of the e-tron, Taycan, EQC or ID.3 and all announced electrical concepts and models. The German automotive industry places its most critical new products, which will determine whether they will survive as companies in their existing structure, under the responsibility of managers who have the least experience and knowledge of this critical part of the value chain.

The attempt by the VW group to centralize 10,000 IT resources in a new organization to solve the ID.3 software problems that 100, maybe even only 50 good software engineers could solve is a testimony to the fact that software is still not really understood today. Herbert Diess lost the important role as CEO of the VW brand because of the software problems with the Golf 8 and ID.3, and other managers will lose their responsibility because it is obvious that they do not know what they are doing and what they are talking about.

[Keshav]

Part 2

Software determines success or failure more than ever

Since its future depends on the software, be it in terms of the product, customer value or company profits, the software must therefore also occupy one of the most powerful positions in the company. The IT representative on the VW board of directors was finally appointed in 2019 but he is in a weak position without the necessary power and influence to make critical decisions. How can a company be successful if the thing that will make its main profits has no real say in the decision-making body?

VW's planned spin-off of the software into a separate legal corporation in order to become the Android of the automotive industry with its own VW.OS, which will offer its own operating system for other car manufacturers as well, may be a step in the right direction, but it may also be the wrong one. Instead of being designed like a start-up that is not based on existing structures to first develop a good stable solution for the ID.X model range without having built up decisive software competence, we immediately assumed that we could offer solutions for the entire industry. If there is one thing that VW is not known for, or rather negatively known for, it is their software.

Managers who have never written a single set of software code in their entire life and cannot even name the common software languages, decide on the vehicle software that determines the largest share of the profits. In the software industry, 80-90% margin is not uncommon, but the automotive industry is used to only a few percent. Managers who don't even know the basic current software languages, nor what they mean for success, or what good or bad code is, make decisions whose scope they don't even begin to grasp.

They are simply incompetent for this task. Even if a software engineer tries to explain it to them, they won't understand the requirement, but without being able to describe the challenge and the task, they are as far away from the solution as you can be.

"The automotive industry is experiencing a wave of incompetence among managers who were among the most competent not long ago. The biggest mistake that is made again and again is to compare a combustion engine vehicle with an electric car. All that connects these two vehicles is the outer shell, and that, as explained, is an interchangeable inferior product.

"Gasoline in your blood" is not good enough for e-cars!

The top managers of the German car industry have always proudly declared that they have "petrol in their blood", e.g. Piech or Winterkorn and many others today. It was seen as a statement qualifying them for this top management role, but since in the electric world of electric cars no petrol is used, but rather the batteries and the software code, among other things, are the decisive qualification criteria, how well are they still suited for the role they still hold as if they had a right to inherit?

Do they now have electricity and software code in their blood instead of petrol? No they do not and therefore they are not qualified because they do not understand software and batteries and electrical drivetrains. If they did, why are they offering us electric cars that are so far from the possibilities of a Tesla?

Would they hire a top manager for the development of a combustion engine vehicle who doesn't even understand the basics of the technology on the grounds that he can delegate it to qualified people? Probably not.

If the justification for a top manager in the old world of combustion engines is that he was a toolmaker or something similar at the beginning of his career, then a top manager today who is supposed to meet the same qualification standards should have been a software programmer at the beginning of his career. If you do not understand what your organization does, you are not only outdated, but an active risk for the future of the company.

Herbert Diess lost his role as CEO of the VW brand last week, partly because of the software disaster with the Golf 8 and ID.3, but what will change with the new CEO? Does Ralf Brandstätter know about software? Did they make the decision for the new CEO depend on his software or battery expertise?

His first interview instead shows us that he wants to stick with the combustion engine for the time being, which will unnecessarily increase costs in the group and keep profits small. The following denial of the corporate communication shows that there is no uniform strategy at VW.

A simple job assessment with all top managers at VW, Audi, Porsche, BMW and Daimler with the request to program a small game or a simple but working virus would very quickly bring clarity in the question of competence. If the top managers are not able to do this or think they can delegate this task then fire them immediately because they are simply not suited for the job. How many will be left?

It may sound like a radical measure, but isn't it even more radical to risk losing thousands of jobs instead because top management is incompetent and doesn't even understand the basics of creating value for the company? Just today BMW announced that it will let 6,000 employees go, which is about 5% of the workforce. I predict that this is just the beginning of future waves of layoffs.

Why should the CEOs of German car manufacturers not be able to do what a 12-year-old, current CEO of Tesla, did in 1984? At the age of 12 in 1984, Elon Musk programmed BlaStar. I'm sure they'll all be able to cope with tools and assembly work in the metal workshop if you ask them, but since what the company makes money with today is software, they should know what they're talking about.

Software is also just a tool but you have to be able to use it to understand it, just like any tool. It's just a basic understanding of what makes the company what it is. If this is missing there is no qualification for participation in the company.

If you are a CEO of a German automotive company, you should know what the company does.

"Dear CEO, here is your challenge!"

The shareholders of the above mentioned companies want managers who understand their business. I believe this is a basic, justified and fair demand. The shareholders have understood what qualification means and that is one of the reasons why they consider Tesla to be the most valuable car manufacturer in the world in terms of market capitalization.

One of the reasons for this is the software know-how that is reflected in future profits, and future profits are what the valuation of a company is all about. The options we now have left are simple, either we replace the top managers with people who understand their business, i.e. software, or we risk losing everything.

Peter Mertens, the former board member of Audi, VW, Volvo, Faurecia and Jaguar Land Rover in June 2020: "We have slept (...) it is getting bloody!

[juanmedina]

Yeah the ID.1 has been plagued with software issues that caused delays and some of the features are not even enabled.

https://youtu.be/cH79SuivdAQ

https://youtu.be/cH79SuivdAQ

[Keshav]

I like Jay Leno, but he's such a boomer. That video was painful.

[arghx7]

VW trying to catch up with Tesla - two problems.

1. VW is a huge company with tons of competing interests and lots of stakeholders (including government stakeholders). Change takes a long time. That's not unique to VW though.

2. German engineering and design culture does not tend toward easy to use software. It's really a long standing cultural thing among Germans. I say that as someone who has worked for a German company and is married to a German and uses German software every day for work. Below of course are generalizations but I feel it applies here:

To a German, if you're having trouble using something or executing a task, it's because you haven't dedicated yourself to understanding how that thing works. It's your fault you can't do it or can't figure it out. It's an attitude of personal responsibility, hard work, and knowing the rules and proper procedures--order and structure.

Americans on the other hand are impatient and unwilling to read instructions or expend more than a minimum of effort to learn something (when it comes to consumer products). If an American can't understand how to use a product, it's because it's a crap design. I shouldn't have to read the instructions for 95% of common tasks, it should just work, and I should be able to figure it out without anyone explaining it to me.

Can you imagine Bosch designing an iPhone? Every piece of German software I've ever used is basically powerful and capable of tons of things but totally unintuitive and with a steep learning curve. So is anyone surprised that a huge German company is struggling to make their own version of an iPhone on wheels?

[Keshav]

It's very hard to go vertical and integrate all the individual systems so that they work together like they were designed by the same person. That is something that Apple does well. You need that specific kind of expertise if you want to compete with Tesla. It isn't something you can outsource. You can't just hire better engineers. It doesn't work like that. You need a different kind of company.

[Pre]

Originally Posted by godfather2112

Property taxes have always been an issue in Texas, that’s not really anything new. I’ve spent a decent amount of time in Fort Worth and San Antonio (recently) and also looked at property. Property is still pretty damn cheap considering how much land and a new home. Hell, it’s cheaper than Salt Lake City! Traffic, yeah, it’s getting up there but still not horrible in San Antonio. Fort Worth is still pretty good with traffic and property is cheap as ****! Again, it might be relative what “cheap” is but it’s less than Utah, less than Noeth Carolina. You could move to Nebraska, New Mexico or some other dump for cheap living but Teas is still very affordable. Maybe not Austin or Dallas.

Actually no, incorrect, property taxes have NOT always been an issue. It’s an issue now because millions of California ass holes moved here, just like they did in Seattle, and just buy stuff and do not negotiate, pushing property values up as well as taxes, extremely rapidly. I know many people here who simply cannot buy a house due to cost. Sure if you want to cherry pick certain spots you can find something but you’ll be commuting an hour plus to your job. I know several couples that have just given up on finding a house. Not possible at their salaries if they don’t want an insane commute.

You don’t live here. Just another person in a peanut gallery flying in, cherry picking, and thinking they know this and that. Anything is cheap compared to Cali property prices. Don’t move here, move to Tennessee or Kentucky. We don’t want you here. Talk to the locals, and they are pissed. A bunch of Cali people moved here and all we got out of it is massive increases in property taxes, traffic out the ass, and a bunch of clowns that want to turn TX into Cali 2.0. I’ve got people in Austin and they are straight up hostile. Austin used to be this great city, now it’s a cluster F. A very close friend lives there, trying to raise three children. His home is modest and his property taxes have tripled. 4 figures per month in property tax. You’d think he lived in some gangster crib, nope, it’s in a neighborhood that used to be somewhat blue collar. He, like I, couldn’t afford the houses we live in if we were buying today. Tesla coming down there will just make it even worse. I’m already planning on my exodus. I’m going to pushed into leaving the state. I used to be able to drive to Ft. Worth in 40 minutes flat. Now that’s an hour and a half. S is crazy.

[SCRAPPYDO]

You see Pre, every now and then I feel like we are separated at birth. Every person leaving California needs to get the hell away from Texas. We got our **** right with personal freedoms and standing on our own two feet. Individual liberty is still alive here. Do not need more cali people ruining yet another state. You guys did such a great job with Oregon and Washington. Everything cali folks touch turns to ****. I will echo Pre's hostility and say leave Texas alone. Haven't you guys ruined enough lives.

[dwf137]

You guys found a scapegoat and clearly won't change your mind. However, maybe broaden your hate, and start looking at what is more likely to be the real cause... Foreign investors.

They destroyed the Vancouver BC housing market, are doing the same thing in Seattle, and it's absolutely an issue in Texas as well. Houston was listed as the #4 real estate investment market in the world all the way back in 2013. 7 years later, and it's clearly still an issue. These foreign investors come in with cash offers, no contingencies, and are more than willing to pay over market value because they're playing the long game, not just trying to find a place to live.

So, while you might want to blame California for your local real-estate problems, you might want to look to your local law-makers and ask them to create a tax for foreign property investment like what Vancouver BC did when they implemented the 20% foreign buyer tax, as well as a tax on vacant properties.

[arghx7]

I was in Austin last year and stayed at an AirBNB which was basically part of the problem. I still enjoyed my stay, but it was this 3 story split in half duplex thing that was clearly designed for AirBNB or adult/non family long term rental type of use. I talked to my Uber driver and she was talking about how expensive Austin has gotten.

Yeah Austin is basically turning into a mix of LA and the bay area. Tesla will make it worse. Although if the supposed trend of work from home + satellite offices happens, you'll have people living in cheaper exurban bedroom communities and taxing the local resources there instead.

[YungBoba]

Hey, I love California. If I could afford to stay and settle down here, I would in a heartbeat. But it's just insane unless you live in the middle of nowhere. Every metro area here is overpopulated and overpriced.

[SCRAPPYDO]

Originally Posted by YungBoba

Hey, I love California. If I could afford to stay and settle down here, I would in a heartbeat. But it's just insane unless you live in the middle of nowhere. Every metro area here is overpopulated and overpriced.

Califórnia as state is great!!! It the cities of Los Angeles and San Francisco that ruin it for everybody. Sort of like how NYC ruins New York State. Lots of good people in California and New York out side of the city, but they do not count, since they chose to live outside the urban filth. It is reason the states have the electoral college to keep the power out of the hands of the few.

[mhoward1]

For those who want to know what it would like look like to go 0-60 in 1.1 seconds

https://twitter.com/pslavi/status/12...667745280?s=21

[Pre]

Originally Posted by SCRAPPYDO

You see Pre, every now and then I feel like we are separated at birth. Every person leaving California needs to get the hell away from Texas. We got our **** right with personal freedoms and standing on our own two feet. Individual liberty is still alive here. Do not need more cali people ruining yet another state. You guys did such a great job with Oregon and Washington. Everything cali folks touch turns to ****. I will echo Pre's hostility and say leave Texas alone. Haven't you guys ruined enough lives.

It's bad here. I need to talk to one of my boy's in Houston to see how that is going. I get the Austin updates weekly and it's a hot mess there. Austin natives are pissed to holy hell. Even the East Side, which used to be crime etc area is gentrified now and many state that Austin is no longer affordable. Yep it's little San Fran now complete with the nanny politics. I used to play gigs down there every quarter and even when I wasn't I'd still go for a weekend. These days, when I go to COTA for MotoGP, I hit Roundrock, hit the tollway and don't even see Austin or enter it. I stay away. Got busted a few times around Austin, on 35, on the weekend, driving, then traffic comes to a standstill. Parked for basically an hour. They don't have the highway infrastructure to support the massive population explosion. My boy down there, uses the surface streets like a gangster. I miss what it used to be. We'd load the bikes, go down for a weekend hitting 6th street at night and ride the hill country in the day. Hit Lake Travis as well. No more. Won't go near the place now, it's ruined permanently. Tesla wanting to go there makes sense, it's already little California now. Good luck on property and commuting, nightmare scenario. You've got 35 and a tollway. Better hope they put the factory out in the sticks.



You're right about Tejas, we have our ways. These invaders are trying to change that, and turn it into a nanny state like where they came from. Yeah dwf, there are investors, sure, but we have a massive H1B visa problem, and the bulk of these people are Cali, then the East coasters, it's a mass migration. It's already ruined where I live. I'm just waiting on property prices to hit a certain mark, then I'm selling and getting out of the state. 10 acres, barndominium, back stop, 4 hours from here. Driven out by foreigners. When I bought my home 14 years ago I never thought that was even a remote possibility. I have to plan even my grocery trips now, and be stealth about everything I do because traffic. 20.9% increase in population during the last decade, and another 20% projected this decade. I've got 5-10 left and I'm outtie 5000.



https://dallas.culturemap.com/news/c...man-wakefield/

[dwf137]

I wonder what the real natives of Texas think about your petty complaints of taxes and traffic?

[juanmedina]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...cars-from-2024

Business
Mercedes Will Use Nvidia Technology in All Cars From 2024
By Maya Tribbitt
June 23, 2020, 2:57 PM EDT

Daimler AG unit Mercedes-Benz said it will use Nvidia Corp. technology in all vehicles starting with the 2024 models, part of a push toward automated cars.

Nvidia’s Drive software and chips will give Mercedes-Benz cars the most “sophisticated and advanced computing architecture ever used in an automobile,” the companies said Tuesday in a statement.

Automakers and semiconductor companies are increasingly joining forces as the car industry tries to progress rapidly from adding electronics that help drivers to vehicles that don’t need a human behind the wheel. Nvidia, based in Santa Clara, California, and led by founder and Chief Executive Officer Jensen Huang, is looking to parlay its dominance of computer graphics into a leading position in the market for automotive silicon.

Unlike other cars that require physical upgrades, the companies said the new systems will feature updates through software. That may allow owners to configure their vehicles in the way that smartphone users customize their handsets, will provide remote safety and maintenance updates and give manufacturers a way to sell services after the car has been purchased.

Huang said in a statement that the companies share a vision of the “automobile of the future” that “will come with a team of expert AI and software engineers continuously developing, refining and enhancing the car over its lifetime.”

2024 WTF

[mhoward1]

So Cree's Wolfspeed just announced a new set of On-board and Off board charger switchers and controllers that will full charge 100KWH batteries in 15 minutes or less. They list that they are 65% more efficient and power dense.

Very impressive.

As the EV market continues to grow and expand, the demand for fast chargers will continue to soar, and the space, efficiency, and system cost gains provided by SiC in various applications will become an increasingly important advantage. When it comes to charging electric vehicles, time is a big factor. Wolfspeed***8217;s silicon carbide components offer higher efficiency and less heat, enabling higher power density and more energy per station. That means highly efficient charge times of 15 minutes or less.

When applied to fast charging, SiC MOSFETs and diodes offers the benefits of up to 30% lower losses, a 2× to 3× faster switching speed, and a 65% increase in power density. Other advantages include a 30% reduction in components and a lower overall system cost. Now available in a wide variety of voltage, current ratings and in many discrete and multi-chip power module configurations, SiC power devices from Wolfspeed can be the backbone of charger systems from a few kilowatts on board the car to hundreds of kilowatts in Fast Charger stations. The newest and most powerful SiC chips also are emerging in high efficiency powertrain drivers for vehicles***8217; motors.

Fast off-board charger systems
On-board chargers (OBCs) attached directly to EVs are currently widely used. However, they are limited in power and therefore charge time by size and weight requirements. Fast off-board chargers bypass the EV***8217;s OBC to provide rapid direct battery charging. Off-board fast-charging stations enhanced by SiC technology are rapidly gaining momentum. Off-board stations allow more modest OBCs, charge faster at higher power levels, and create opportunities to provide a variety of chargers optimized for best energy efficiency, smallest size and weight, or highest ruggedness and reliability, all benefitting from cost advantages.

[Cowboy Neal]

Originally Posted by dwf137

I wonder what the real natives of Texas think about your petty complaints of taxes and traffic?

This. It sounds like some want to build a beautiful wall around the great state of Texas.

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Originally Posted by dwf137

I wonder what the real natives of Texas think about your petty complaints of taxes and traffic?

Completely stupid and you’re the one being a petty. Most of the USA was Native American land bud. That has nothing to do with a massive influx of Cali libtards infiltrating here and trying to turn TX into Cali 2.0. And what hypocrisy from someone from Seattle. I lived there for one year and the locals hated Cali people with a passion because they did the same thing there. Moved up there, no negotiation and drove the real estate prices through the roof. Plenty of people in the office making 1.5 hour commutes. Funny at the time I was emphathetic. I wasn’t calling them petty.

I’m already seeing bumper stickers (not on my vehicles) that state “Go back to California”.