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Old 11-02-2020, 01:58 PM   #3026
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It looks like you grab the wheel in that "beautiful right turn"
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Old 11-02-2020, 05:06 PM   #3027
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It looks like you grab the wheel in that "beautiful right turn"

That's why it was beautiful, because of his skillful steering at 4:13.
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Old 11-02-2020, 05:08 PM   #3028
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didn't listen to anything, fast forwarded through most of it...

why was the Tesla constantly driving in the left lane, even when not passing? Is that under driver control, or is the Tesla actively breaking the law in many states? If so, who pays for the ticket?
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Old 11-02-2020, 06:29 PM   #3029
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didn't listen to anything, fast forwarded through most of it...

why was the Tesla constantly driving in the left lane, even when not passing? Is that under driver control, or is the Tesla actively breaking the law in many states? If so, who pays for the ticket?

If you read the [x] page disclaimer when you start your car/ install FSD like you're supposed to, it's never Tesla's fault.
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Old 11-02-2020, 08:05 PM   #3030
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didn't listen to anything, fast forwarded through most of it...

why was the Tesla constantly driving in the left lane, even when not passing? Is that under driver control, or is the Tesla actively breaking the law in many states? If so, who pays for the ticket?
it used to drive on the right lane all the time and now it drives too much on the left lane.... You can never make everyone happy lol. There is a setting that you can change so it stays on the passing lane if you want to:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/electre...sing-lane/amp/

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It looks like you grab the wheel in that "beautiful right turn"
the system needs some kind of feedback to know that the driver is alert so you are supposed to have your hand on the steering wheel so it a applies a little bit pressure to trigger the sensor. If you look at the last of the five symbols on the top "steering wheel symbol" when its blue it will show you that autopilot was activated. During some Consumers Reports testing of FSD the idiots posted a video claiming that the software was not stopping at the stop signs but from the video you could clearly tell that they didn't even have autopilot activated .



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If you read the [x] page disclaimer when you start your car/ install FSD like you're supposed to, it's never Tesla's fault.
Oh look we have another shorty that loves loosing money

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Old 11-02-2020, 09:10 PM   #3031
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it used to drive on the right lane all the time and now it drives too much on the left lane.... You can never make everyone happy lol. There is a setting that you can change so it stays on the passing lane if you want to:
I mean... many states have a law that state keep right except to pass. On 3 lane sections, it's generally acceptable to be in the middle lane as long as you're not obstructing the flow. But always being in the passing lane... sounds like an AI Prius...
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Old 11-03-2020, 01:19 AM   #3032
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Oh look we have another shorty that loves loosing money

Interesting you'd come to that conclusion. I'm not stupid enough to short a stock that's basically built on momentum. But do explain why you think I'm short? Is everyone who is critical of Tesla a short?
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Old 11-03-2020, 08:29 AM   #3033
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In the video posted here: https://forums.nasioc.com/forums/sho...postcount=3025

Out of curiosity where does the Maps get the speed limit from? Marker 6:33 shows Speed Limit 50 MPH, the car is doing 53 MPH and the map shows 55 Max MPH.
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Old 11-03-2020, 09:00 AM   #3034
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In the video posted here: https://forums.nasioc.com/forums/sho...postcount=3025

Out of curiosity where does the Maps get the speed limit from? Marker 6:33 shows Speed Limit 50 MPH, the car is doing 53 MPH and the map shows 55 Max MPH.
The speed limit is 50 MPH, the car is going 53 MPH but the setting on the autopilot is limited to 5 MPH over the speed limit on city streets so 55 MPH max. The car reads the speed limit signs now they used to rely on Google maps for the speed limit. I found one time that the Google maps had the speed limit wrong in some highway.
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Old 11-03-2020, 11:00 AM   #3035
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It's comforting to know we can maintain mobility if we get old or lose sight etc. We may be able to return safe from nights drinking and partying But also understand when the day comes when autopilots dominate they may not let unpredictable human drivers to share same road.
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Old 11-03-2020, 11:37 AM   #3036
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This is a good video showing some improvements in the latest FSD release.


You can see the roundabout driving is a lot less jerky, and it does a good job of making a left into a road with medium traffic.
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Old 11-03-2020, 03:18 PM   #3037
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So, just let the record show that Tesla was damn close to bankruptcy. Per Elon: ***8220;We were about a month away.***8221;

Full article here:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/03/musk...M4DmQ0y0i-awKA


I***8217;m sure he sleeps a lot more soundly at night with that rather decent cash balance. Glad they pulled it out.
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Old 11-03-2020, 04:59 PM   #3038
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I remember journalists or whoever being like "Elon, why are you working such extreme hours?" and he did say at some points (Summer 2018 I think) that Tesla would die if he didn't help figure out the production issues. At the time people were like wtf is the problem, you guys don't know what you're doing.

Turns out that was only partially true, as other EV's have had production ramp up and quality issues as well on launch.
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Old 11-03-2020, 05:18 PM   #3039
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I remember journalists or whoever being like "Elon, why are you working such extreme hours?" and he did say at some points (Summer 2018 I think) that Tesla would die if he didn't help figure out the production issues. At the time people were like wtf is the problem, you guys don't know what you're doing.

Turns out that was only partially true, as other EV's have had production ramp up and quality issues as well on launch.
Yeah the Polestar already had two recalls . As far Tesla being close to bankruptcy they probably were but I also think Tesla would have gotten the cash they needed easily.

https://twitter.com/truth_tesla/status/1323987584243159040

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Old 11-10-2020, 02:34 AM   #3040
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Old 11-10-2020, 08:40 AM   #3041
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So it seems that there is some controversy about Doug DeMuro Hummer EV vs Cybertruck comparison and the Tesla fans are pissed . I don't know anything about trucks but I wonder if he has valid points. He are is a reaction video to his video. Maybe a truck owner @godfather2112 can chime in.... we know to some people the Cybertruck is ugly as sin

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Old 11-10-2020, 11:55 AM   #3042
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Tesla fans get pissed about anything that questions their sacred cows.

I posted this comparative review of the Rav4 Prime vs the Model Y on a Model Y owners group.

The Tesla owners for the most part lost their goddamn minds with the usual canned responses of the Tesla cult.

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Old 11-10-2020, 12:22 PM   #3043
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Tesla cult will be diluted as more and more normies buy them. Same thing happened with Subaru.
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Old 11-10-2020, 01:20 PM   #3044
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Scrumptious
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Old 11-10-2020, 01:32 PM   #3045
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nope, itīs the same with Apple, or Rolex, the cult never dies
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Old 11-10-2020, 01:52 PM   #3046
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Tesla fans get pissed about anything that questions their sacred cows.

I posted this comparative review of the Rav4 Prime vs the Model Y on a Model Y owners group.

The Tesla owners for the most part lost their goddamn minds with the usual canned responses of the Tesla cult.

https://youtu.be/8kDQvycMpmg
Not sure what responses you got from the MY Owners Group, but I have one and Crosstrek PHEV.

I will say I like the exterior of the Rav4 Prime.

TFL is hit or miss with reviews and the Son has rarely been pro Tesla. His main issue is a lack of knobs. He seems to forget that the volume is controlled by the driver via a physical scroll wheel. Then he complains that the MY doesn't have paddle shifters...uh, there's only 1 forward gear.

My main complaint with the Rav4 Prime is that the Prime's AWD is dependent upon the battery pack. The rear axel is powered 100% by the battery pack. So after 42 miles you have a FWD car. Now, some may say, well even at 0 range the car can still creep in hybrid battery mode, yes, but tip in and it reverts to gas (does that in my Crosstrek PHEV and our previous 2015 XV Hybrid). No thanks.
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Old 11-10-2020, 05:15 PM   #3047
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Not sure what responses you got from the MY Owners Group, but I have one and Crosstrek PHEV.

I will say I like the exterior of the Rav4 Prime.

TFL is hit or miss with reviews and the Son has rarely been pro Tesla. His main issue is a lack of knobs. He seems to forget that the volume is controlled by the driver via a physical scroll wheel. Then he complains that the MY doesn't have paddle shifters...uh, there's only 1 forward gear.

My main complaint with the Rav4 Prime is that the Prime's AWD is dependent upon the battery pack. The rear axel is powered 100% by the battery pack. So after 42 miles you have a FWD car. Now, some may say, well even at 0 range the car can still creep in hybrid battery mode, yes, but tip in and it reverts to gas (does that in my Crosstrek PHEV and our previous 2015 XV Hybrid). No thanks.
Do they talk about safety at all? I don't even feel like watching the video
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Do they talk about safety at all? I don't even feel like watching the video
Safety? They both have accident avoidance and five stars.
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Old 11-10-2020, 06:26 PM   #3049
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Then he complains that the MY doesn't have paddle shifters...uh, there's only 1 forward gear.
I think paddle shifters can be helpful to vary the amount of regenerative braking.

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My main complaint with the Rav4 Prime is that the Prime's AWD is dependent upon the battery pack. The rear axel is powered 100% by the battery pack. So after 42 miles you have a FWD car.
My understanding is that there is no case that you'll lose rear drive in the Rav4 Prime. The gas engine will begin to charge the battery before reaching that point.
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Old 11-10-2020, 06:51 PM   #3050
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42 MILES PER HOUR not miles. The Prius eAWD has this setup.

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