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Old 12-03-2020, 02:44 PM   #1
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News Subaru Of America Announces Pricing On 2021 Crosstrek Hybrid

  • New front fascia design
  • Upgraded suspension for improved ride, handling and steering response
  • StarDrive Plug-in Hybrid powertrain with up to 17 miles in EV mode
  • EPA-estimated 35 MPG / 90 MPGe
  • Pricing increased only $200 from previous model year



Subaru of America, Inc. today announced pricing on the 2021 Crosstrek Hybrid which offers Subaru’s legendary all-wheel drive capability in a hybrid package. New for 2021, the plug-in hybrid receives a redesigned front fascia and retuned suspension.

Priced at $35,345, the 2021 Crosstrek Hybrid is the most efficient version of the versatile compact SUV, delivering an EPA-rated 35 MPG/90 MPGe and 480-mile total range. Offered in a single trim with an option package, the Crosstrek Hybrid will arrive in Subaru retailers this winter.

The 2021 Crosstrek Hybrid receives a redesigned front bumper and fog light trim. Also updated is the hexagonal grille featuring a silver metallic wing with blue accent. The compact SUV’s suspension has been retuned, featuring coils and dampers optimized for better ride, handling, and steering response.

The Hybrid features Subaru StarDrive® Technology, which uniquely integrates electric motors, a 2.0-liter direct-injection SUBARU BOXER® engine, Subaru Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive, and Lineartronic CVT (Continuously Variable Transmission).

Subaru StarDrive Technology employs two electric motors. One motor functions as an engine starter, plus it can be powered by the engine to function as a generator for the hybrid battery. The second motor powers the vehicle for hybrid and electric driving modes. It also charges the hybrid battery during regenerative braking. The plug-in SUV offers up to 17 miles of pure electric driving.

The Crosstrek Hybrid qualifies for High Occupancy Vehicle (HOV) permits in several states, including CA, MD and NY. The plug-in hybrid may also qualify for a $4,502 Federal tax credit and certain states offer rebates of up to $1,500.

The highly capable compact SUV features X-MODE and Hill Descent Control for enhanced performance in low-friction and off-road conditions. The Crosstrek Hybrid’s 8.7-inches of ground clearance and 1,000 lb. towing capacity provide versatility in both off-road and city driving. The Hybrid also comes standard with low-profile roof rails and unique 18-inch wheels in black with machine finish. The 60/40-split fold-down rear seats offer up to 43.1 cu.ft. of cargo space, enough space for camping gear or luggage.

The Hybrid is equipped with an ample list of standard features including an 8.0-inch SUBARU STARLINK™ Multimedia Plus system with Apple CarPlay™ and Android™ Auto; Keyless Access with Push-Button Start; Tire Pressure Monitoring System with individual tire pressure display; power windows with auto-up/auto-down on both driver and passenger sides; power door locks and side mirrors; LED fog lights; SI-Drive; and dual USB ports.

The Crosstrek Hybrid comes standard with Subaru’s award-winning EyeSight Driver Assist Technology featuring Automatic Pre-Collision Braking and Throttle Management; Lane Keep Assist; Lane Departure and Sway Warning; and Lead Vehicle Start Alert. Standard Steering Responsive Headlights illuminate curves as the vehicle steers into them. Additional standard active safety features include Reverse Automatic Braking, High Beam Assist, and Blind Spot Detection with Lane Change Assist and Cross Traffic Alert. Further, the Hybrid features a Pedestrian Alert System that provides an audible warning to pedestrians within the proximity of the vehicle when it is traveling below 20 mph.

SUBARU STARLINK In-Vehicle Technology provides hands-free connectivity and entertainment through the vehicle’s multimedia or navigation system. The Crosstrek Hybrid comes standard with the STARLINK 8.0-inch Multimedia system which offers a high-resolution touchscreen; smartphone integration with Apple CarPlay™, Android™ Auto and STARLINK apps; Bluetooth® hands-free phone and audio streaming connectivity; voice activated controls for phone and AM/FM stereo; single-disc CD player; SiriusXM All-Access Radio and Travel Link® (4-month free subscription); WIFI hotspot capability (subscription required), HD Radio® and over-the-air updates. The top-of-the-line 8.0-inch Multimedia with Navigation adds voice-activated navigation powered by TomTom (3-year free over-the-air map updates).

Exclusive to Crosstrek Hybrid, STARLINK Connected Services include Remote Climate Control and Remote Battery Charging Timer. The vehicle’s climate control can automatically function without starting the engine, so it can warm up or cool down, even when garaged. The Remote Battery Charging Timer allows a user to manage the vehicle charging schedule and monitor its status. These features are included in the Hybrid’s free 10-year subscription to the STARLINK Safety and Security Plus package.

An option package priced at $2,500 offers a power moonroof, heated steering wheel, the STARLINK 8.0-inch Multimedia Navigation system with voice activated navigation powered by TomTom, and Harman Kardon® 8-speaker system with 432-watt equivalent amplifier.

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17 miles is not enough...
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17 miles is not enough...
Agree. I also think they should market the difference in this trans. It’s not a chain CVT yet they use the same name as their chain unit.

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Agree. I also think they should market the difference in this trans. It***8217;s not a chain CVT yet they use the same name as their chain unit.

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The description of the trans is still accurate. Why change the name?





And genuine question. Is there another CAPABLE AWD hybrid that can do better on EV alone? Soo many options popping up, I haven't kept pace.
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The description of the trans is still accurate. Why change the name?





And genuine question. Is there another CAPABLE AWD hybrid that can do better on EV alone? Soo many options popping up, I haven't kept pace.
With a 17 mile range, does it matter? The mountains are all farther than 17 miles away from me.

I'd honestly love to get back and forth to work (26 miles, round-trip) in something AWD, but my previous Civic with snow tires did just fine on most snow days, so why make the sacrifice for the other 99% of the time when it's not snowing???

I honestly don't see a Subaru engine doing well only being used ~10 (realistic) miles per day. I'd end up having to change the oil on the severe-service cycle and have the HG phantom hovering over me every time I floored it for the first 150k miles. Not worth it, IMO. Then, after the HG is replaced at 150k miles I'll be looking at a battery replacement.

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Old 12-04-2020, 08:24 AM   #6
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Are headgaskets still needing to be replaced at 100k miles with the FB and FA engines? Or is it a Boxer engine thing in general?
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With a 17 mile range, does it matter? The mountains are all farther than 17 miles away from me.

I'd honestly love to get back and forth to work (26 miles, round-trip) in something AWD, but my previous Civic with snow tires did just fine on most snow days, so why make the sacrifice for the other 99% of the time when it's not snowing???

I honestly don't see a Subaru engine doing well only being used ~10 (realistic) miles per day. I'd end up having to change the oil on the severe-service cycle and have the HG phantom hovering over me every time I floored it for the first 150k miles. Not worth it, IMO. Then, after the HG is replaced at 150k miles I'll be looking at a battery replacement.



To each their own on the individual usage of the car; but, I'm not spending money on a car that won't do what I want it to(unless I have a 2nd car that can) when I want it to. You don't think it's important.....it's a deal breaker for me.


And what makes you think you'll need to replace the battery? It's already been proven that hybrid batteries are lasting far longer than those early fears.


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Yes; but, I don't think it should hold the old stigma of you have to. I've seen high mileage FBs that are just fine and ones getting new ones at 30-40K miles. I don't believe it's near the issue it was in days past......but still a consideration.
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Yes; but, I don't think it should hold the old stigma of you have to. I've seen high mileage FBs that are just fine and ones getting new ones at 30-40K miles. I don't believe it's near the issue it was in days past......but still a consideration.
That's pretty concerning.
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That's pretty concerning.
So, have you been believing that the more modern Subaru's no longer had this issue?
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So, have you been believing that the more modern Subaru's no longer had this issue?
Well it is 2020. Maybe I've been spoiled driving vehicles made by almost all the other manufacturers (Nissan and Isuzu are the only Japanese brands I've never owned and haven't yet owned an MB product otherwise I've owned them all outside of the smaller players like Swedish, British, and exotics) that have managed to make engines without biodegradable head gaskets.
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Well it is 2020. Maybe I've been spoiled driving vehicles made by almost all the other manufacturers (Nissan and Isuzu are the only Japanese brands I've never owned and haven't yet owned an MB product otherwise I've owned them all outside of the smaller players like Swedish, British, and exotics) that have managed to make engines without biodegradable head gaskets.
I hear ya. It's definitely not "a thing" like it used to be; but, they haven't fully cured it either.
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17 mile EV range would get me to work. I'd have to charge at the office to get home on EV, and our charger is now occupied by a company owned Bolt, so 17 miles doesn't cut it for me. Could have been an option as I'm eyeing up vehicles to buy now that I'd feel comfortable passing along to my son as he's like 9 years away from driving.
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And genuine question. Is there another CAPABLE AWD hybrid that can do better on EV alone? Soo many options popping up, I haven't kept pace.
Rav4 Prime.

Although it's a lot more expensive.
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Rav4 Prime.

Although it's a lot more expensive.
Nope, Rav4 Prime is basically FWD. The rear axel is only powered by the battery pack for 42 miles, up to 40 MPH, and then it's done. So at that point you have a Hybrid with a tiny mount of rear torque from a dead stop. I would hate to drive a Rav4 Prime is snow w/o a full battery. On the highway it is always FWD above 40 mph.

The Crosstrek always sends all power through the MPT to both axels. The planetary CVT isn't horrible either. She is very slow though.

I have the 2019 Crosstrek Hybrid (PHEV). It is a good car, for what it is. 17 miles will get you around town to shop and home, and outside of that window in Hybrid mode it switches back and forth from gas to battery. I get over 500 miles of total range w/ gas+EV.

I also have a Tesla Model Y, it's not even close, but they are different segments/drivetrains.
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17 mile EV range would get me to work. I'd have to charge at the office to get home on EV, and our charger is now occupied by a company owned Bolt, so 17 miles doesn't cut it for me. Could have been an option as I'm eyeing up vehicles to buy now that I'd feel comfortable passing along to my son as he's like 9 years away from driving.
With those charging systems, can they split off for two? Or, I'm assuming, you have to buy/install two whole systems?

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Nope, Rav4 Prime is basically FWD. The rear axel is only powered by the battery pack for 42 miles, up to 40 MPH, and then it's done. So at that point you have a Hybrid with a tiny mount of rear torque from a dead stop. I would hate to drive a Rav4 Prime is snow w/o a full battery. On the highway it is always FWD above 40 mph.

The Crosstrek always sends all power through the MPT to both axels. The planetary CVT isn't horrible either. She is very slow though.

I have the 2019 Crosstrek Hybrid (PHEV). It is a good car, for what it is. 17 miles will get you around town to shop and home, and outside of that window in Hybrid mode it switches back and forth from gas to battery. I get over 500 miles of total range w/ gas+EV.

I also have a Tesla Model Y, it's not even close, but they are different segments/drivetrains.
How much do you try to charge the battery while driving.......hitting that spot while driving that is actually putting power back in? We have a plug-in that a guy "imported" from California. I got to drive it; but, the battery was completely depleted. I got to a couple spots where I was charging; but, had to get back to the dealership. I didn't get any EV driving. Maybe I'll come across him again(he uses our second location) and get to drive it again.
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17 mile EV range would get me to work. I'd have to charge at the office to get home on EV, and our charger is now occupied by a company owned Bolt, so 17 miles doesn't cut it for me. Could have been an option as I'm eyeing up vehicles to buy now that I'd feel comfortable passing along to my son as he's like 9 years away from driving.
If you have access to an outdoor 120v normal outlet you can charge. It only takes about 4.5-5 hours, which is easy at work. That's what I do at home in the garage, while the Tesla gets a 60 amp Wallcharger (EVSE).

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Chargepoint has L2 public chargers with two plugs. They can be used simultaneously. At home, you can daisy chain (at least Tesla allows it) and then charge one at a time, but the 2nd will turn on once the 1st is done.

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How much do you try to charge the battery while driving.......hitting that spot while driving that is actually putting power back in? We have a plug-in that a guy "imported" from California. I got to drive it; but, the battery was completely depleted. I got to a couple spots where I was charging; but, had to get back to the dealership. I didn't get any EV driving. Maybe I'll come across him again(he uses our second location) and get to drive it again.
If the battery has charge (0-17 miles on the display), the car will default to EV driving and stay that way until you basically floor it. The car will "charge" the battery whenever you take your foot off the gas, and when you apply the brake pedal (greater regenerative braking) until the friction brakes take over. So, if you can "coast" then you are in that "sweet spot" but the amount of regen is minimal. Downhill helps too.

You can also conserve the battery. In SAVE mode, the car will balance gas engine and battery propulsion (think Hybrid mode) in order to keep your battery pack at the same level. Say you have 5 miles of battery range, you can drive for miles and miles without that battery range going down, bc the gas engine will drive and recharge as soon as it thinks the battery level will drop. At stops it will turn off like Auto Start/Stop.

This is how I commute to work. EV on local roads, SAVE on the highway, then back to EV on local roads.

Or, you can use CHARGE mode, and the gas engine will stay on 100% of the time (even at the stop) and recharge the battery while driving the car. I believe 30 min of driving will recharge the battery.

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Nope, Rav4 Prime is basically FWD. The rear axel is only powered by the battery pack for 42 miles, up to 40 MPH, and then it's done. So at that point you have a Hybrid with a tiny mount of rear torque from a dead stop. I would hate to drive a Rav4 Prime is snow w/o a full battery. On the highway it is always FWD above 40 mph.
I'm sorry, but I don't agree with your view of the rear wheels not being powered when EV mode is out. The car goes into hybrid mode and continues powering the rear wheels as needed.

Only fwd over 40? I don't care. Our Highlander is the same way, iirc. This is a crossover. People mobbing over 40 in conditions where they "need" awd shouldn't be looking at either of these vehicles.

I'd take the 300 hp 4.7 second Rav4 Prime over the 10.2 second crosstrek hybrid any day. I'll put good winter tires on it and never get stuck. Call it a win.

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If you have access to an outdoor 120v normal outlet you can charge. It only takes about 4.5-5 hours, which is easy at work. That's what I do at home in the garage, while the Tesla gets a 60 amp Wallcharger (EVSE).
That's all we have right now, a 120v outlet. They're looking at getting a charger, but right now we're not paying for that outlet so I think the desire to raise the flag with the building owner and have to start paying for electricity is holding them back...
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For 99% of daily commutes, AWD is only needed for a few seconds to get you going from a standstill, and maybe a few minutes here and there for the occasional hill climb. If you live on a long mountain road, or are in a job that requires extreme snow conditions, youre already shopping for something else anyway. This car makes no sense except for a handful of really old folks who never leave the house anyway and think buying one of these will help save the planet.
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For 99% of daily commutes, AWD is only needed for a few seconds to get you going from a standstill, and maybe a few minutes here and there for the occasional hill climb. If you live on a long mountain road, or are in a job that requires extreme snow conditions, youre already shopping for something else anyway. This car makes no sense except for a handful of really old folks who never leave the house anyway and think buying one of these will help save the planet.


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I'm sorry, but I don't agree with your view of the rear wheels not being powered when EV mode is out. The car goes into hybrid mode and continues powering the rear wheels as needed.
The rear motor is only good for 53 hp. That motor relies on a battery pack. If the pack is near dead, then it is only receiving charge from the generator motor. That is sending a TINY amount of charge (it takes a long time to actually charge the battery). With hybrids (I've had 2015 XV Hybrid and 2019 Crosstrek PHEV), when the battery is dead or low you basically get "EV" propulsion in a parking lot until you tip in (at all) forcing the gas engine to start. So, as we know, in snow you tip in harder. Plus, the gas engine is only attached to the front axel in the Rav4 Prime. Will it work in slush or a dusting? Sure, but at that point the fronts probably have grip too.

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Only fwd over 40? I don't care. Our Highlander is the same way, iirc. This is a crossover. People mobbing over 40 in conditions where they "need" awd shouldn't be looking at either of these vehicles.

I'd take the 300 hp 4.7 second Rav4 Prime over the 10.2 second crosstrek hybrid any day. I'll put good winter tires on it and never get stuck. Call it a win.
I don't want to ever be FWD or RWD and wait for the other wheels to get power in a low traction situation, especially on a snow covered highway.

5.4 seconds and 9 seconds (but yes, still wayyy better than the Crosstrek).

Won't get stuck? They are truly just FWD. Here is a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV, with a similar electric-only rear axel. On hard packed snow, trying to tow from a dead stop it never rotates the rears WITH A FULL BATTERY and "4WD Lock" mode. The fronts just spin and spin.

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That's all we have right now, a 120v outlet. They're looking at getting a charger, but right now we're not paying for that outlet so I think the desire to raise the flag with the building owner and have to start paying for electricity is holding them back...
Give the 120v a try, it works very well for me. I just let it charge overnight.

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Subaru should put the 2.5 in the hybrid (and all trims, including Impreza). The 2.5 Crosstrek gets essentially the same mpg as the 2.0 and is actually rated 1 mpg higher. Combine that with the PHEV, it could do a respectable 7.0 sec 0-60.
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Subaru should put the 2.5 in the hybrid (and all trims, including Impreza). The 2.5 Crosstrek gets essentially the same mpg as the 2.0 and is actually rated 1 mpg higher. Combine that with the PHEV, it could do a respectable 7.0 sec 0-60.






Now, correct me if I'm wrong all you mechanical folks..... But the point of the hybrid 2.0(and 2.0 in general) is not just mpg; but, something about the atkinson cycle and running cleaner, right? I haven't heard of them making a 2.5 version yet.

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Now, correct me if I'm wrong all you mechanical folks..... But the point of the hybrid 2.0 is not just mpg; but, something about the atkinson cycle and running cleaner, right? I haven't heard of them making a 2.5 version yet.
No reason why it couldn't work on the 2.5 with mechanical changes...but that would cost $ and a car only sold in a few states probably isn't a priority for upgrades. Especially when the 2.0 is still sold on the low end Crosstreks.

Considering the BEV comes out in 2022 there's little reason to invest in the PHEV anymore. Its end is probably near.
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Now, correct me if I'm wrong all you mechanical folks..... But the point of the hybrid 2.0(and 2.0 in general) is not just mpg; but, something about the atkinson cycle and running cleaner, right? I haven't heard of them making a 2.5 version yet.
Atkinson cycle is essentially delaying the intake valve closure, resulting in greater mechanical efficiency at the cost of peak power.
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No reason why it couldn't work on the 2.5 with mechanical changes...but that would cost $ and a car only sold in a few states probably isn't a priority for upgrades. Especially when the 2.0 is still sold on the low end Crosstreks.

Considering the BEV comes out in 2022 there's little reason to invest in the PHEV anymore. Its end is probably near.
The 2.0 is not identical to the 2.0 in the PHEV. Sure it costs money but so does doing anything.

PHEV's still have plenty of uses beyond the EV world.
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Old 12-05-2020, 10:52 PM   #25
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To each their own on the individual usage of the car; but, I'm not spending money on a car that won't do what I want it to(unless I have a 2nd car that can) when I want it to. You don't think it's important.....it's a deal breaker for me.


And what makes you think you'll need to replace the battery? It's already been proven that hybrid batteries are lasting far longer than those early fears.



Yes; but, I don't think it should hold the old stigma of you have to. I've seen high mileage FBs that are just fine and ones getting new ones at 30-40K miles. I don't believe it's near the issue it was in days past......but still a consideration.


I***8217;ll always have a capable AWD vehicle for the really nasty days, and that will likely always be a Subaru. I drove my wife***8217;s FXT in the one white-out snow storm we***8217;ve had in a decade, leaving the Civic with snow tires I mentioned above at home. It was truly amazing flying by everyone on the highway, even with a bit of full-boost hooning. I was even able to stop and see if those who were stuck needed any help, then again flooring it up to speed again, just because I could.

Are you saying that anemic battery-only mileage will be even close to spec at 150-200k miles. I highly doubt it!

In the end, pathetic.
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