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Old 12-26-2006, 02:31 PM   #1
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Default 2008 Porsche 911 to get Direct Injection & Optional DSG Transmission

2008 Porsche 911 to get Direct Injection & Optional DSG Transmission

http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl...03/1528/BLOG08

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STUTTGART -- Four years after the launch of the current series, Porsche's iconic 911 will be upgraded for the summer of 2008.

The front end will get a larger air intake, and the rear lighting will be redesigned.

Major technological innovations to the 911 will include a conversion of the six-cylinder gasoline engine to direct injection and the addition of an optional dual-clutch transmission.

The transmission will allow shifts without interrupting driving power, even in manual mode.

Porsche's direct-injection engine, dubbed DFI, is projected to cut fuel consumption by about 10 percent.

The updated generation of the 911 also will come with improved performance. The Carrera S coupe, which starts at $82,600, will have at least 370 hp, up from 355 hp.
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Old 12-26-2006, 03:26 PM   #2
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Wow! I can' wait to see the new Direct Injection hp figures for the 997 GT3!!!
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Old 12-26-2006, 05:26 PM   #3
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Interested about the dual clutch too... Allow shifts without interrupting driving power... sweet.
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Old 12-26-2006, 07:02 PM   #4
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I wonder how much of that DSG tranny is related to the VW one? Especially now that Porsche and VW/Audi was even tighter than they were before.
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Old 12-26-2006, 08:21 PM   #5
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DSG is pretty lame! i've driven dozen's of vw's with them and i dont like the feel of it. im surprised porsche is going with this trans. a moddified 7speed version is already in the bugatti veyron. it is much faster than similar designs found in ferrari's and bmw's. i feel it takes away from the driving experience. i would rather have a 6speed manual.

the technology is pretty neat. it uses 2 wet multi-disc clutches, 1 clutch opperates 1,3,5 and the other 2,4,6. this way every gear assending/dessending is already engaged.
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Old 12-26-2006, 08:34 PM   #6
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Cant wait for it to break.
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Old 12-26-2006, 10:33 PM   #7
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Old 12-26-2006, 10:37 PM   #8
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Some people say DBW throttle takes away from the driving experience too.

I think it's a cool idea (the DSG that is).
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Old 12-26-2006, 11:50 PM   #9
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Old 12-27-2006, 12:43 AM   #10
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I hope with this increase in power we also see an increase in power for the caymans.

(as the gap will become larger)
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Old 12-27-2006, 12:52 PM   #11
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I love DSG and it'll only improve. Sorry, haters.
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Old 12-27-2006, 02:40 PM   #12
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IIRC... Its DSG will be a 7 speed
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Old 12-27-2006, 02:42 PM   #13
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Fast cars, need DSG like transmission. Takes away lots of the possibility of driver error. I think it's a great idea.
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Old 12-27-2006, 02:58 PM   #14
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Fast cars, need DSG like transmission. Takes away lots of the possibility of driver error. I think it's a great idea.
but also opens itself up to alot of mechanical error.
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Old 12-27-2006, 03:03 PM   #15
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Screw DSG. Direct Injection boxer FTW.
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Old 12-27-2006, 03:26 PM   #16
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^If you can afford to own it, you can afford to fix it
Warranty times suck, customer doesnt pay unless they break it.
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Old 12-27-2006, 03:33 PM   #17
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Is that the 3.6l with 370hp now?
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Old 12-27-2006, 04:19 PM   #18
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while people might think DSG takes away from driving experience at the end of the day it's faster
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Old 12-27-2006, 05:31 PM   #19
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I wouldnt mind a DSG... My stiff ass clutch pedal is tiring a lot of the time.
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Old 12-27-2006, 05:55 PM   #20
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while people might think DSG takes away from driving experience at the end of the day it's faster
I was all over DSG at first. Now I'm bored with it... I like stick shifting, it's more involving and rewarding IMO. I'd rather go a little slower and have more fun doing it.
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Old 12-27-2006, 07:13 PM   #21
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Hope so.. Cayman S needs 3.8 with DI.. I would be sooo all over this car..


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I hope with this increase in power we also see an increase in power for the caymans.

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Old 12-27-2006, 07:24 PM   #22
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Hope so.. Cayman S needs 3.8 with DI.. I would be sooo all over this car..
I think it'll be a while until they put DI on the Cayman. The performace gap between it and the 911 is too narrow as it is.
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Old 12-27-2006, 07:32 PM   #23
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I was all over DSG at first. Now I'm bored with it... I like stick shifting, it's more involving and rewarding IMO. I'd rather go a little slower and have more fun doing it.

I autocross my car, I'd rather go faster on the track and it be more boring on the street than the other way around.
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Old 12-27-2006, 07:59 PM   #24
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I autocross my car, I'd rather go faster on the track and it be more boring on the street than the other way around.
point taken. for those who drive competitively... it makes sense.
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Old 12-27-2006, 08:52 PM   #25
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the only thing bad about having a DSG trans is that they are torque limited. for example... the GTI is rated from the factory @ 207 lb-ft of torque. the DSG 02E transmission is rated at a maximum torque input of 258 lb-ft (24% more)... not much to work with if you want to enhance engine performance. i havent heard anything yet if any vw tuners are working on something to upgrade this trans. this trans uses a dual-mass flywheel similar to a torque converter in that it has fluid inside; but thats it. this flywheel has fluid inside( it's sealed) but its not trans fluid its more like the consistency of grease found in a c/v boot. i only know this because a customer recently destroyed theres in a TDI jetta; the bell housing was covered with the fluid from the dual-mass flywheel.
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