Subaru Promises 4 Crossover EVs in the US - 2026+

[Snow Drift]

https://electrek.co/2023/05/11/subar...ossover-ev-us/

• 4 all-electric crossovers by 2026
• Subaru Japanese plants to build 400,000 EVs per year by 2028
• 40% of global sales to be electric by 2030
• All sales to be electric by early 2030s

Originally Posted by Electrek

Under its former chief, Subaru said it would not build EVs in the US because it can’t compete with McDonalds’ $20 starting wage. That appears to still be the case under the Osaki era, but that doesn’t mean new Subaru EVs won’t hit the US market. According to comments from the new CEO this week, we can expect to see four all-electric crossovers by 2026.

Subaru to build 400,000 EVs per year by 2028

Lots of news coming out of Subaru HQ this week. Today, the company shared its financial results for its 2023 fiscal year end on March 31. The company is reporting a near tripling of operating profits compared to a year prior, led by steady sales in Subaru’s key market – the US.

Following today’s report, Subaru CEO Atsushi Osaki laid out the Japanese automaker’s electrification plans going forward, and they’re encouraging. Osaki explained that Subaru will add an additional dedicated EV assembly line to it Oizumi plant in Japan in 2027, adding annual production capacity for another 200,000 vehicles.

Oizumi will compliment a separate EV line at the automaker’s nearby Yajima plant that will also deliver 200,000 EVs a year from around 2026. Combined, Subaru expects to be cranking out as many as 400,000 EVs in Japan per year by 2028.

Even before EV production has completely ramped up overseas, Subaru is planning to be building and delivering new, all-electric models to US consumers. According to Osaki, all four of the EVs that are expected to roll out before the end of 2026 should reach the US market.

The new CEO did also confirm that those models will be built entirely in Japan to start, so hopes of garnering any federal tax incentives stateside have already been shot down. Instead, Subaru hopes its EVs can entice US consumers based on lease incentives… Well that and brand loyalty alone. Per outgoing Subaru CEO Tomomi Nakamura:

I wonder if American consumers choose their cars solely based on tax breaks. Our US customers are quality customers. We have a higher ratio of customers buying Subarus with cash, and we also have low loan and lease rates. We also keep our incentives at low levels. We will try not to rely only on the subsidy program.

Looking ahead, Subaru says it plans to source the batteries to support its EV transition with the help of partner Toyota. The automaker now aims to have at least 40% of its global sales come from BEVs by the end of the decade and intends to offer an entirely electric lineup by the “early 2030s.”

[Scooby-Doode]

YAY said no-one.

[rallly 4]

They’ll either go bankrupt or pull out before it’s too late and end up on GM 2008 life alert once they’ve pissed away all that money on EVs. Total waste.

[Scooby-Doode]

Or they'll be take over by Toyota, just like Nissan bought Mitsubishi Car division.

[dwf137]

get ready for the STI CUV.

[Straight6]

Really cool. EV STI is going to be bonkers.

[JustyWRC]

Originally Posted by dwf137

get ready for the STI CUV.

They're bringing back the Forester STi?

[19std]

I promise ill do it tomorrow.

[chanomatik]

Forester EV
Outback EV
Crosstrek EV
New lifted EV model

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[Kostamojen]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

Forester EV
Outback EV
Crosstrek EV
Ascent EV model

Fixed

[chanomatik]

Originally Posted by Kostamojen

Fixed

I knew I forgot one!

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[Cowboy Neal]

Derphawk predicted all this back in 1999.

[Calamity Jesus]

I'm also going to be selling 4 crossover EVs 2026+.

And why not? I've got the same number of electric vehicle platforms and battery agreements as Subaru.

Everybody remember Subaru's 2005 B5 TPH concept? TPH stood for Turbo Parallel Hybrid. They didn't even bother with that.

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The styling was a bust.. but the drivetrain could have been a hit. Nah, lets double down on CVTs and smaller displacement NA engines for the North American market.

[JustyWRC]

Originally Posted by Calamity Jesus

I'm also going to be selling 4 crossover EVs 2026+.

And why not? I've got the same number of electric vehicle platforms and battery agreements as Subaru.

Everybody remember Subaru's 2005 B5 TPH concept? TPH stood for Turbo Parallel Hybrid. They didn't even bother with that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RvIIJCHP-E

The styling was a bust.. but the drivetrain could have been a hit. Nah, lets double down on CVTs and smaller displacement NA engines for the North American market.

I totally agree. The way it was set up, it seemed like it could be paired to any of their engine setups. But, perhaps that trans that was on it didn't actually give them the numbers it "should" have? But, then, the way it was set up, it "should" have been able to work with a CVT as well, eh? What I wouldn't give to have free reign on all the R&D and prototypes they've come up with over the years. They had a DI engine paired with a CVT(non-Lineartronic) in the middle 90s. Look how long it took to get them on the road. My only question at this moment about this news, is are they "Subaru" designs? Or more Toyota. Not talking about the electric drivetrain. I'm talking the rest. Learning the Solterra has been "stupid" cause most of what I need to know to help customers is a subscription.....

[samagon]

Originally Posted by Calamity Jesus

I'm also going to be selling 4 crossover EVs 2026+.

And why not? I've got the same number of electric vehicle platforms and battery agreements as Subaru.

Everybody remember Subaru's 2005 B5 TPH concept? TPH stood for Turbo Parallel Hybrid. They didn't even bother with that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RvIIJCHP-E

The styling was a bust.. but the drivetrain could have been a hit. Nah, lets double down on CVTs and smaller displacement NA engines for the North American market.

the rear bumper looks like it at least is getting some use on the new VB WRX though. so that's good.

[super_subie]

not all EV's are bad...and imo instant torque is a way better feeling then ICE engines slowly response.

still waiting for a car manufacture to get it right before i change over to EV...also infrastructure as well.

[super_subie]

not all EV's are bad...and imo instant torque is a way better feeling then ICE engines slowly response.

still waiting for a car manufacture to get it right before i change over to EV...also infrastructure as well.

[KC]

For me, 15% doing mfr right and 85% waiting for the infrastructure to be reliable (no charge points down when going to charge), as labeled (charge speeds indicated on charger are what you get, i.e. 87, 91, 93 octane - charger says 150, you get 150, not *up to* 150 - slower just because someone else is charging, etc...), and plentiful, not just on way points/highways between stops.

[Snow Drift]

Originally Posted by KC

For me, 15% doing mfr right and 85% waiting for the infrastructure to be reliable (no charge points down when going to charge), as labeled (charge speeds indicated on charger are what you get, i.e. 87, 91, 93 octane - charger says 150, you get 150, not *up to* 150 - slower just because someone else is charging, etc...), and plentiful, not just on way points/highways between stops.

150 is the max. The car can't handle 150 kW all the time. So, at a low SOC, when the batteries are warm, you may get 150 kW and then it tapers off. It's like filling a glass of water from the tap, you have to slow down the flow as you get closer to the top.

Of course, you also have to contend with sharing, unless the stall doesn't do that (Tesla v3 Superchargers).

Improvements are coming. The early Tesla stalls were 72 kW or 120 kW, today you can get 250 kW and the new v4 units are up to 615 kW.

[KC]

Originally Posted by Snow Drift

150 is the max. The car can't handle 150 kW all the time. So, at a low SOC, when the batteries are warm, you may get 150 kW and then it tapers off. It's like filling a glass of water from the tap, you have to slow down the flow as you get closer to the top.

Of course, you also have to contend with sharing, unless the stall doesn't do that (Tesla v3 Superchargers).

Improvements are coming. The early Tesla stalls were 72 kW or 120 kW, today you can get 250 kW and the new v4 units are up to 615 kW.

Yes, many cars ramp charge capability, well aware but that's on the car/mfr.

What I'm mostly talking about is the car should be the limiting factor in charge speed, not the charger. If a 300kwh capable car is in prime charging zone where its plugged into a 300kwh charger, the charger shouldn't be running at anything less than the max the car can take, not acting like a crimped water hose. Charger should be able to put out what the car is requesting up to the MAX of the charger (what I mean by max of the charger is a 300kwh capable car being plugged into a 150kwh charger, no duh, you're not getting 300, but it should be at 150). And many chargers out there, especially if shared, produce much less than advertised, and less than the car is requesting.

[Snow Drift]

Originally Posted by KC

Yes, many cars ramp charge capability, well aware but that's on the car/mfr.

What I'm mostly talking about is the car should be the limiting factor in charge speed, not the charger. If a 300kwh capable car is in prime charging zone where its plugged into a 300kwh charger, the charger shouldn't be running at anything less than the max the car can take, not acting like a crimped water hose. Charger should be able to put out what the car is requesting up to the MAX of the charger (what I mean by max of the charger is a 300kwh capable car being plugged into a 150kwh charger, no duh, you're not getting 300, but it should be at 150). And many chargers out there, especially if shared, produce much less than advertised, and less than the car is requesting.

I get your point in a vacuum, but there are too many variables. The biggest variable that needs to be worked on is charger maintenance. So, if they are advertised at 150 kW, they should be capable and not broken or limited.

Shared stalls are not an issue for modern DC chargers. But, yes, that should be resolved.

Outside of those, the other variables are based on your car. Temperature, state of charge, manufacturer charging curve, etc.

[chanomatik]

As an Impreza owner who has had their front bumper replaced twice already and has been sitting on a mint, painted front bumper cover for over a year, waiting to swap on, I resemble your remark, Russ.

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[Russ_G93]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

As an Impreza owner who has had their front bumper replaced twice already and has been sitting on a mint, painted front bumper cover for over a year, waiting to swap on, I resemble your remark, Russ.

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Yeah, but you're like 9 times cooler than the Karen trying to get her front bumper covered on a rear fender claim haha

[chanomatik]

Originally Posted by Russ_G93

Yeah, but you're like 9 times cooler than the Karen trying to get her front bumper covered on a rear fender claim haha

My goal in life is to be at least 10x cooler than a Karen, so I'm glad to know I'm almost there. Much thanks!

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[dwf137]

all jokes. unlike every other automatic out there these days, SPT is still slower than the manual no matter how they want to brand it.

I'm shopping for a used bmw at the moment, hard to find in manual. debated going auto because they're easier to find and my wife would be willing to drive it, but I just don't think I could drop the manual. I know the auto will be faster and easier to drive fast, but there's definitely something lost with an auto.

Although I do like the complete lack of gears on an EV. Just smooth power delivery, no hesitation, no shifting.