2022 Subaru WRX Official Announcement *Merged*

[Straight6]

I am sure they will tweak it with the facelift but as it stands now, the rear bumper still looks better than that Mustang and much, much better than the Corolla GR.

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[jimbobjohnbrown]

Originally Posted by Sid03SVT

VA design



VB design





Boats, boats, boats!





I tried to get images of cars that are the same color, ignore the STi wing & aftermarket wheels; I'll do my best to explain the issue I have with the design.



Worth noting I did not initially compare the VA to VB bumper, I was talking just about the VB bumper design, but I'll use the VA as a comparison to hopefully better illustrate my point



The VA rear bumper is a cohesive & clean design, the actual distance from the face of the trunk to the face of the bumper on the VB isn't the issue.



The VB rear bumper is a mess. The fact that the rear reflector portions don't stick out as far as the middle section makes it appear that the middle section sticks out further than it does, even in person, the center section of the bumper appears to stick out too far, when nominally it doesn't stick out further than the prior gen car. The black plastic contrasting the color & finish of the car only exacerbates the issue further. If it were the same color and finish of the rest of the bumper, and actually a part of the bumper (with a diffuser section from exhaust down) it would help the situation a bit, but it wouldn't fix the design issues entirely, just reduce them visually.



Similarly if you see a black WRX, the black plastic doesn't look as bad as on the colors that contrast it, because it minimized the variation, making it stand out less visually.



When the flares are painted, they appear smaller than the contrasting black plastic flares, even though they are the same size, again because they stand out less visually.



The actual dimension from trunk to bumper face don't matter as much as the poor/busy/incohesive design and the decision to go with matte black plastic which exacerbates the situation; those choices make the middle section of the bumper appear to stick out further than it actually does, and it's reminiscent of a boat with a swim deck.

I recognize that you weren't comparing the VA to the VB with bumpers, I was just pointing out a fact. Rulers don't lie. Whether it's cohesive or not of a design, every Subaru of every year has some ugly qualities to it. The VA for example highly resembles a Nissan Sentra Toyota Corolla whatever, it's not exactly pretty on its own. BTW, I can talk crap about the VA because I owned one (was my first subie). And I had a 2023 Crosstrek which looked great at some angles and pretty ugly at others. Just the way it is with Subarus. Kind of reminds me of pugs, "cute ugly". The biggest sin of Subaru exterior design is that they have to put the engine completely in front of the front wheels (symmetrical AWD), which tends to give their cars a funny look with all that overhang.

As for picking the color to best hide the cladding; the plastic has a gray tone, and will get even more gray over time, so if you want to hide it better, I recommend getting grey.

I got a headache reading the rest of your post, lol. "TL;DR" comes to mind

[KC]

Originally Posted by Straight6

I am sure they will tweak it with the facelift but as it stands now, the rear bumper still looks better than that Mustang and much, much better than the Corolla GR.

Proof positive, your taste in cars is quesitonable, along with your reason for still being here other than to keep poking the hornets nest.

[samagon]

Originally Posted by Straight6

I am sure they will tweak it with the facelift but as it stands now, the rear bumper still looks better than that Mustang and much, much better than the Corolla GR.

Originally Posted by KC

Proof positive, your taste in cars is quesitonable, along with your reason for still being here other than to keep poking the hornets nest.

I showed a graphic designer friend the above quote and asked him to draw me a quick picture of Straight6. these are the results:

[Straight6]

Big turbo kit is in. Excited to see how far they can push it!

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Also:

NBR CHALLENGE 2023 『QFレース�篇 - YouTube

NBR CHALLENGE 2023 『QFレース�篇 - YouTube

[dcsti]

Originally Posted by Sid03SVT

VA design
I tried to get images of cars that are the same color, ignore the STi wing & aftermarket wheels; I'll do my best to explain the issue I have with the design.

Worth noting I did not initially compare the VA to VB bumper, I was talking just about the VB bumper design, but I'll use the VA as a comparison to hopefully better illustrate my point

The VA rear bumper is a cohesive & clean design, the actual distance from the face of the trunk to the face of the bumper on the VB isn't the issue.

The VB rear bumper is a mess. The fact that the rear reflector portions don't stick out as far as the middle section makes it appear that the middle section sticks out further than it does, even in person, the center section of the bumper appears to stick out too far, when nominally it doesn't stick out further than the prior gen car. The black plastic contrasting the color & finish of the car only exacerbates the issue further. If it were the same color and finish of the rest of the bumper, and actually a part of the bumper (with a diffuser section from exhaust down) it would help the situation a bit, but it wouldn't fix the design issues entirely, just reduce them visually.

Similarly if you see a black WRX, the black plastic doesn't look as bad as on the colors that contrast it, because it minimized the variation, making it stand out less visually.

When the flares are painted, they appear smaller than the contrasting black plastic flares, even though they are the same size, again because they stand out less visually.

The actual dimension from trunk to bumper face don't matter as much as the poor/busy/incohesive design and the decision to go with matte black plastic which exacerbates the situation; those choices make the middle section of the bumper appear to stick out further than it actually does, and it's reminiscent of a boat with a swim deck.

Just to expand on your points, with which I agree 100%:

1. The VB design has everything outlined in thick black lines (the tail lights, the black strip(s) across the trunk, the cladding). Honesty, it reminds me of the color by numbers worksheets my kids brought home when they were toddlers. The lines were thick to make it easier for a person with limited motor skills to stay inside the lines.
2. Nothing on the VA looks "stuck on". The black bits on the VB look like they were glued on as an afterthought.
3. The black bumpers remind me of the days when the lowest trim levels had unpainted bumpers to hit a price point (think 1990's Sentra E... the XE had body colored bumpers).

The VB just looks cheap to me.

[chanomatik]

Guys, just don't forget that the VA bumper protrudes more than the VB bumper and then everything will be A-OK.

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[jimbobjohnbrown]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

Guys, just don't forget that the VA bumper protrudes more than the VB bumper and then everything will be A-OK.

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Lol!!

[Scooby-Doode]

Originally Posted by Straight6

There is no need to play any devils advocate. The car is fine. It drives fine. It sells fine. It looks fine. It is exactly what a modern WRX is supposed to and should be. This thread is a very poor representation of reality. You have zero interest in this car and yet here YOU are continuously rumbling some nonsense about hamburgers.

Originally Posted by Straight6

Agreed! Take your own advice. Isn't it crazy how many posters keep on coming back to this thread rambling absolute nonsense about a car they were never interested in to begin with, often just trying to justify their own purchase ? Isn't it unhinged ? But admittedly it is very entertaining, especially now that this car has proven to be very successful.

Originally Posted by samagon

I showed a graphic designer friend the above quote and asked him to draw me a quick picture of Straight6. these are the results:

I have been watching all the antics in this thread. I just spit out my beer after reading this.

[Straight6]

And yet, here you are

[rallly 4]

Originally Posted by Straight6

And yet, here you are

Why are you even here? You post links to turbos for a car you aren’t going to buy even though it sounds like you’d marry it if you could

[SVX WRX]

Originally Posted by rallly 4

Why are you even here?

unpaid White-Knighting for his master, Subaru?

[rallly 4]

Originally Posted by SVX WRX

unpaid White-Knighting for his master, Subaru?

I’m the biggest Subaru die hard of anyone I just think they’ve been screwing us over since the STI died

[chanomatik]

Cobb exhaust clip for you Cobblers.

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[D-Rodman]

Sounds good, thank you.


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[Scorpius]

Originally Posted by D-Rodman

Sounds good, thank you.


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Oh, really?

[Wraith]

Is the RTV sealant slag in the oil pan and oil pickup not a concern?

2022 WRX RTV Issue??? : How To Check Yours! - YouTube

2022 WRX RTV Issue??? : How To Check Yours! - YouTube

(You can probably skip ahead to 11:55)

[Wraith]

Double post

[jimbobjohnbrown]

Originally Posted by Wraith

Is the RTV sealant slag in the oil pan and oil pickup not a concern?

2022 WRX RTV Issue??? : How To Check Yours! - YouTube

(You can probably skip ahead to 11:55)

A concern for every modern Subaru, thanks to them getting away from actual gaskets and going with RTV. The FA20 is guilty of this too.

Anyways, while it's not the greatest thing in the world to have RTV built up in the pickup, it's a non-issue overall. Subaru redesigned the pickup to be five-sided, so if RTV is clogging up one screen, you have four more.

[jimbobjohnbrown]

This angle is definitely giving off some hardcore 22+ WRX vibes.....

FYI, the new mustang.

[JustyWRC]

Originally Posted by rallly 4

I’m the biggest Subaru die hard of anyone I just think they’ve been screwing us over since the STI died

How? How long has it been since the STI died? How long does it take to make changes(at least the ones you seem to be wanting) on a car they weren't intended for?

[Snow Drift]

Originally Posted by JustyWRC

How? How long has it been since the STI died? How long does it take to make changes(at least the ones you seem to be wanting) on a car they weren't intended for?

Too long.

[JustyWRC]

Originally Posted by Snow Drift

Too long.

The WRX had already been out a while before that news broke. I really hope people weren't expecting any "the STI is gone" changes to the WRX for the 2023 model year. I coulda quelled those thoughts a long time ago. But, don't know how Subaru is screwing us.

[Snow Drift]

Originally Posted by JustyWRC

The WRX had already been out a while before that news broke. I really hope people weren't expecting any "the STI is gone" changes to the WRX for the 2023 model year. I coulda quelled those thoughts a long time ago. But, don't know how Subaru is screwing us.

Agreed. 2024 was our first hope, and that appears to be dashed.

[neg_matnik]

Originally Posted by JustyWRC

[...] But, don't know how Subaru is screwing us.

I don't even know where to begin... how much time do you have this week?


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