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Old 07-28-2023, 08:25 PM   #10601
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Old 07-28-2023, 08:58 PM   #10602
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It looks like the VB rally car has paint-matched rear bumper and cladding. Could it be that the Ď24 MY WRX results in a refresh with painted cladding as well?

My guess is they release a ďtrack packĒ with Brembos and different wheels, and MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, no more/less black plastic. Fingers crossed.
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Old 07-29-2023, 09:30 AM   #10603
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Prodrive WRX review. Nice article with lots of pics. Tastefully modded. Subaru is watching.

https://fox8.com/automotive/internet...-sti-edge/amp/
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Old 07-29-2023, 10:37 AM   #10604
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Prodrive WRX review. Nice article with lots of pics. Tastefully modded. Subaru is watching.

https://fox8.com/automotive/internet...-sti-edge/amp/
Rear end and wing looks awful on that. Thereís no way anyone is taking you seriously if you drive that to work. Lol
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Old 07-29-2023, 12:31 PM   #10605
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Imagine the price on that WRX with all the prodrive goodies. North of 45k? Who would pay that.
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Old 07-29-2023, 10:34 PM   #10606
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Imagine the price on that WRX with all the prodrive goodies. North of 45k? Who would pay that.
People are paying $50k for corollas and $65k for civics. Why wouldn't they pay for prodrive? Lol
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Old 07-30-2023, 12:19 AM   #10607
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People are paying $50k for corollas and $65k for civics. Why wouldn't they pay for prodrive? Lol
Because it isnít a STI and the WRX is in a much lower class than the GRC and CTR in every imaginable way. The way theyíre built being primary. 2 are built very differently than the other
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Old 07-30-2023, 03:49 AM   #10608
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People are paying $50k for corollas and $65k for civics. Why wouldn't they pay for prodrive? Lol
Exactly. The FA24DIT in the WRX is so understressed vs the 3 pot in the Corolla and the WRX isn't FWD based or FWD like the Civic. It is a bargain in comparison to the other two. It punches above its weight.
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Old 07-30-2023, 10:19 AM   #10609
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Exactly. The FA24DIT in the WRX is so understressed vs the 3 pot in the Corolla and the WRX isn't FWD based or FWD like the Civic. It is a bargain in comparison to the other two. It punches above its weight.
How is 238th on the list punching above its weight when the Civic and Corolla are at 103 and 115 respectively?



The Civic and Corolla are among Corvettes, M2s, 911s, Supras, Hellcats, AMGs, and -V cars. The WRX is among Golfs/Jettas and V6 Mustangs.
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Old 07-30-2023, 10:33 AM   #10610
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How is 238th on the list punching above its weight when the Civic and Corolla are at 103 and 115 respectively?



The Civic and Corolla are among Corvettes, M2s, 911s, Supras, Hellcats, AMGs, and -V cars. The WRX is among Golfs/Jettas and V6 Mustangs.
He's using the fanboy chart, not the real one. Only dumb people use the real chart, duh! Also don't forget it makes OVER 9000 hp on intake and tune alone!
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Old 07-30-2023, 12:08 PM   #10611
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Exactly. The FA24DIT in the WRX is so understressed vs the 3 pot in the Corolla and the WRX isn't FWD based or FWD like the Civic. It is a bargain in comparison to the other two. It punches above its weight.
Subaru sold FWD versions of the Impreza outside of North America. The previous generation of cars (Leones) were primarily sold in the US with 4WD that defaulted to FWD. The Subarus before that were essentially RWD copies of aircooled VW drivetrains.

If you take the RWD drivetrain and flip it around to be in the front, they become FWD. If you then build a whole car company off of an AWD marketing hard line, using your goofy nose-heavy FWD-based drivetrain and someday a whole generation of ignorant fanbois say you build better cars than Honda because they aren't FWD-based.. well that's just comedy.
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Old 07-30-2023, 01:55 PM   #10612
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Because it isnít a STI and the WRX is in a much lower class than the GRC and CTR in every imaginable way. The way theyíre built being primary. 2 are built very differently than the other
Bs. The type r is priced at $45k for a reason, it has an extra $15k in goodness baked in, not an extra $35k. No civic is worth $65k, for that money I'll take an m2 or rs3, or used Porsche, there's no argument to be made.
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Old 07-30-2023, 03:46 PM   #10613
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Exactly. The FA24DIT in the WRX is so understressed vs the 3 pot in the Corolla and the WRX isn't FWD based or FWD like the Civic. It is a bargain in comparison to the other two. It punches above its weight.
Thatís because the WRX engine was designed for SUVs with torque, not horsepower, in mind. Itís not a performance engine at all, while the one in the Corolla is (although Toyota should have put forged internals in it. What would that have cost, an extra $500?)

Having owned a high performance FWD car with a LSD, and a WRX with open diffs, I think the AWD in the Subaru is way over-hyped. Turn off T/C and it isnít really any better in the snow than a FWD car with LSD. And the under steer on the WRX is awful. The car really needs a LSD out back.

For 30k itís a good daily driver, but nowhere near the rally superstar people are glamming it up to be. Itís literally an Outback sedan with a manual transmission. And it looks horrid. Every time I see one in the wild it looks like it got rear ended and someone put a cheap unpainted aftermarket replacement bumper on it.

The GT trim at 45k is a joke.

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Old 07-30-2023, 07:13 PM   #10614
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Rear end and wing looks awful on that. Thereís no way anyone is taking you seriously if you drive that to work. Lol
No one at work is taking you seriously if you drive a Subaru in general.

Unless you work for Subaru.
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Old 07-30-2023, 07:27 PM   #10615
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Imagine being so insecure that you care what others think about the car you drive

This thread delivers !
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Old 07-30-2023, 08:15 PM   #10616
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Imagine being so insecure that you care what others think about the car you drive

This thread delivers !
It's called unconscious bias, and people absolutely judge you based on the car you drive, whether you want them to or not.

I can assure you, no director or high-level executive will ever drive a 2023 WRX with a bunch of ricer mods and a big wing unless they're a self-proclaimed "CEO" of some bogus tech startup that's deeply in the red.
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Old 07-30-2023, 08:18 PM   #10617
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No one at work is taking you seriously if you drive a Subaru in general.

Unless you work for Subaru.
WRX, no. Any other Subaru? You're good. Most people don't care about cars, but if you show up to your job in a riced out boy racer mobile you'll be treated as such.
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Old 07-30-2023, 08:26 PM   #10618
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Yeap, I love to pull up in my leased base 3 series with fake M logo on the trunk lid to impress my coworkers and clients....
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Old 07-30-2023, 08:55 PM   #10619
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WRX, no. Any other Subaru? You're good. Most people don't care about cars, but if you show up to your job in a riced out boy racer mobile you'll be treated as such.
Must be regional preference.
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Old 07-31-2023, 03:25 AM   #10620
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Bs. The type r is priced at $45k for a reason, it has an extra $15k in goodness baked in, not an extra $35k. No civic is worth $65k, for that money I'll take an m2 or rs3, or used Porsche, there's no argument to be made.
Iím confused here. Iím stating the ctr and GRC are in a much higher class of car than the Wrx. Take a look at the lap
Results posted above. Validates my statement and Iím confused what youíre saying
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Old 07-31-2023, 03:27 AM   #10621
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Yeap, I love to pull up in my leased base 3 series with fake M logo on the trunk lid to impress my coworkers and clients....
Why did you completely ignore the CTR and GRC lap post above? That the Wrx is 100 cars lower. You seriously must have something wrong to not be able to acknowledge anyone proving you incorrect and just letting yourself ramble on about some other biased BS
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Old 07-31-2023, 09:17 AM   #10622
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Why did you completely ignore the CTR and GRC lap post above? That the Wrx is 100 cars lower. You seriously must have something wrong to not be able to acknowledge anyone proving you incorrect and just letting yourself ramble on about some other biased BS
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Old 07-31-2023, 09:28 AM   #10623
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How is 238th on the list punching above its weight when the Civic and Corolla are at 103 and 115 respectively? The Civic and Corolla are among Corvettes, M2s, 911s, Supras, Hellcats, AMGs, and -V cars. The WRX is among Golfs/Jettas and V6 Mustangs.
This is true but consider that both of those cars were equipped with chunky Sport Cup 2 tires. The WRX needs better brakes too. Thankfully, if the spy shots posted here a few pages ago are true, a better brake package is coming. The WRX is brake/tire package away from being much quicker at the VIR LL. Also, consider that the CTR was listed at 46,625 USD and GR Morizo was 52,640 USD, which in reality is probably closer to well over 60K for either one...That is IF you even find one. You can obtain a WRX for 30K today without much trouble. So yes it does punch above its weight and because it is a very capable platform from the get go.

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Old 07-31-2023, 10:43 AM   #10624
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This weekend, driving around for about 30 min, I saw 5 different VBs. They are becoming more and more popular. Granted, I still see a lot of VA WRXs.
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Old 07-31-2023, 11:03 AM   #10625
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This is true but consider that both of those cars were equipped with chunky Sport Cup 2 tires. The WRX needs better brakes too. Thankfully, if the spy shots posted here a few pages ago are true, a better brake package is coming. The WRX is brake/tire package away from being much quicker at the VIR LL. Also, consider that the CTR was listed at 46,625 USD and GR Morizo was 52,640 USD, which in reality is probably closer to well over 60K for either one...That is IF you even find one. You can obtain a WRX for 30K today without much trouble. So yes it does punch above its weight and because it is a very capable platform from the get go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RFePHg7HcI
According to the LL Test results:
WRX is slower than other cars in it's price bracket.
WRX is slower than other cars in the next price bracket up (CTR GR-C).
That is not "punching above it's weight".

"The WRX is a brake & Tire package away from..." If/when Subaru offers that brake and tire package, and it gets run around VIR again on a timed lap, then your statement may or may not be validated, but until then, the WRX is not only decidedly NOT punching above it's weight, it's not doing a very good job punching at it's weight.

The fact that the market is flooded with WRX's, most that are being offered at a discount, does not support your "punching above it's weight" statement either; what it actually says is that people don't want a WRX, and would rather wait to purchase something in the hopes that they will be able to get what they do want rather than spend 31k-42k to settle for something they don't want just because it's available.

If you want a WRX so bad, I hear they are available, at a discount to boot!, so feel free to buy one. Also feel free to slap on the "performance pack" brakes from the spy-shots which are just the prior iterations performance pack brakes, so again, readily available, get yourself a set of wider wheels & Cup-2s, some data logging & video equipment, rent out VIR for a day and post your results.
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