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Old 08-07-2018, 12:47 PM   #1
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Default Any way to identify stock vs. aftermarket HID projector lens?

My HID headlight housing was modified by the last owner (painted black), but I cannot tell if they also made any component upgrades or not. I'd like to get some TSX-R lenses, but I don't want to go through the time and expense if they already have upgraded lenses. It is hard to tell if they are stock or not. Are there any visual cues that anyone knows of to determine of the lens is stock just by looking at it? Thank guys!
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Old 08-08-2018, 02:04 PM   #2
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What bulb does it use?
D2S right? If you remove the dust cap you should be able to see if it looks oem. Any aftermarket project would have some fab. If not look at oem sti projectors online to verify.
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Old 08-08-2018, 05:50 PM   #3
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My HID headlight housing was modified by the last owner (painted black), but I cannot tell if they also made any component upgrades or not. I'd like to get some TSX-R lenses, but I don't want to go through the time and expense if they already have upgraded lenses. It is hard to tell if they are stock or not. Are there any visual cues that anyone knows of to determine of the lens is stock just by looking at it? Thank guys!
It's pretty simple actually. The tsx-r lens is clear, the oem lens is Fresnel which will appear cloudy/mottled/opaque

If they are clear you will also need to determine if there was already an upgraded projector fitted (or a downgraded projector if they sucked). OEM projector with clear lens, 50w ballast, and some good Philips xtreme vision (for ultimate brightness) or xtreme ultinon (for ultimate brightness in a cooler temp, although not as bright as the xtreme visions) bulbs is a great setup.
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Old 08-08-2018, 07:59 PM   #4
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What bulb does it use?
D2S right? If you remove the dust cap you should be able to see if it looks oem. Any aftermarket project would have some fab. If not look at oem sti projectors online to verify.
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It's pretty simple actually. The tsx-r lens is clear, the oem lens is Fresnel which will appear cloudy/mottled/opaque

If they are clear you will also need to determine if there was already an upgraded projector fitted (or a downgraded projector if they sucked). OEM projector with clear lens, 50w ballast, and some good Philips xtreme vision (for ultimate brightness) or xtreme ultinon (for ultimate brightness in a cooler temp, although not as bright as the xtreme visions) bulbs is a great setup.
Great info, that will help a ton, I'll investigate more tonight I am hoping they left all of the hardware in place and didn't mess with it too much. The lens appears stock by your description. Is a ballast upgrade necessary if I just want to run a set of Osram bulbs like the CBI/CBH/CBB's? It looks like the 35w ballasts should support a bulb like that from what I'm seeing.
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Great info, that will help a ton, I'll investigate more tonight I am hoping they left all of the hardware in place and didn't mess with it too much. The lens appears stock by your description. Is a ballast upgrade necessary if I just want to run a set of Osram bulbs like the CBI/CBH/CBB's? It looks like the 35w ballasts should support a bulb like that from what I'm seeing.
Yes, 35w is fine. I would recommend the Philips xtreme vision however as they are superior in every way to the Osram bulbs. at 50w all of the bulbs will get brighter but warmer so 35w will look great especially with the clear lens
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Old 08-08-2018, 08:32 PM   #6
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Yes, 35w is fine. I would recommend the Philips xtreme vision however as they are superior in every way to the Osram bulbs. at 50w all of the bulbs will get brighter but warmer so 35w will look great especially with the clear lens
Is the Phillips better simply due to the slightly higher lumen output and warmer color? The color of that vs the CB's from Osram is probably more functional I imagine.
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Is the Phillips better simply due to the slightly higher lumen output and warmer color? The color of that vs the CB's from Osram is probably more functional I imagine.
The colour is a little nicer (subjectively) , the output remains strong long term where the osram products tend to get weaker with age. If you ever decide to go 50w or upgrade projectors and do 50w they also stand up to the extra power far better than the osrams.

We have tested many of these in different projectors at different wattages and with different ages, over the past few years and philips always comes out better.
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The colour is a little nicer (subjectively) , the output remains strong long term where the osram products tend to get weaker with age. If you ever decide to go 50w or upgrade projectors and do 50w they also stand up to the extra power far better than the osrams.

We have tested many of these in different projectors at different wattages and with different ages, over the past few years and philips always comes out better.
Good to know, thank you for the info! Would you say that the Extreme Vision appears a pure white? Or is there still a little bit of warmth in it? I know its rated at 4800k but K ratings and manufacturers seem to vary a bit with their "stated" vs actual coloring. CBB for example is rated around 7000k (I think) but supposedly looks more like 6000k.
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