ESP - The competition - Page 44

digitalseance · 04-28-2009, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamaroFS34

The compound difference is neglible between the A6/R6. If anything, the R6 is probably a bit more heat resistant (since it's designed for roadracing), and therefore better in the mid-Atlantic nasty-heat.

Hmm... I have to disagree here.

The R6 for autox is useless in anything under a surface temp of 110*F, even then they will not come to life until the 3rd or 4th run.

If you're learning, new to the sport, or just want them to last, then the R6 would be the better choice.

Otherwise, the A6 is the quickest but the v710 last the longest. For *SP, it's either A6 or v710. R6s would not be competitive at anything other than regional events.

my $.02

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stil2stock · 04-29-2009, 11:39 AM

grr...you guys aren't making this easy. Guess I'll just keep searching for the A6 in the size I want. anyone have good leads on used tires? I've exhausted my resources.

digitalseance · 04-29-2009, 11:41 AM

jbracingtires.net

Call him, don't bother emailing until after you speak to him over the phone. Great guy, great prices, etc. He may have a hard time finding the A6s in that size though, I was successful using him 3 of the 5 times I purchased A6s.

stil2stock · 04-29-2009, 11:44 AM

ya, thats who i usually use, but I've been calling him once a week at least, and he's got nothing. he told me to stop calling - said he'd call if he got some, haha. I think I annoyed him

Cody · 04-29-2009, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makofoto

What's the big deal with people wanting to change out their radiators? We run in very warm Southern CA and NEVER have over heating issues with OEM radiators ... with Suby's prepped to ST and SM rules. Most of us probably use Redline Water Wetter, but that doesn't do THAT much.

I know many National Champs that use oem brakes and pads. Drivers like Josh Sortor (STX Champ) and Gary Thomason (ASP and SS Champ). Save your money for the best tires and lighter wheels! I DID have Rotoro big brakes on my WRX ... and had other top drivers tell me that they felt "the best," but believe me, it didn't make me any faster.

Did you even read my post?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cody

Anyone upgrading their brakes or radiators? I haven't looked in the rulebook yet, but I understand that, new for this year, you can upgrade both. Probably not a big benefit for AutoX but helpful if you want to have a dual duty autox/track car.

I'm wondering which brake/radiator upgrades are legal and which aren't.

makofoto · 04-29-2009, 01:29 PM

Sorry ... single track AX mind!

(but who recently changed the radiator and went to HP Blacks on our AX/Track Miata!

)

Cody · 04-29-2009, 01:56 PM

Ha! No worries. So you like the Rotora brake kit for this application (track/autoX/DD)? What about for rears? I was wondering if I could do the Subaru 2 pot rears given that you have to use the Kartboy relocating bracket AFAIK.

makofoto · 04-29-2009, 02:05 PM

The Rotoro's were on my long ago sold WRX ... oem Miata brakes are excellent ... with steel hoses and the proper pads.

Cody · 04-29-2009, 02:13 PM

Damn wagons look good with all that meat under them.

makofoto · 04-29-2009, 02:17 PM

... I certainly agree!

xcdhridr · 04-30-2009, 02:48 PM

I feel like better brakes might help once in a while, but it's few and far between. I coulda used something better at wendover. I was standing on the pedal with no hope of getting to abs for the turnaround. I had to brake SUPER early to end up where I wanted to be.

Cody · 04-30-2009, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xcdhridr

I feel like better brakes might help once in a while, but it's few and far between. I coulda used something better at wendover. I was standing on the pedal with no hope of getting to abs for the turnaround. I had to brake SUPER early to end up where I wanted to be.

What pads do you use? I've been very happy with R4-S but will likely switch to HPS for cost and longevity.

However, I'm on 225/47/17 RE01R's so if you're running 285/30/18 R Compound, I could understand needing a more aggressive pad and maybe upgraded brakes.

Leonardo · 04-30-2009, 03:31 PM

Another wagon owner here!

Waiting for the new sponsored 17x8 Rotas and UPS just dropped off a set of 245-45-17 Azenis.

I have been running 235-45-18 and been using HPS pads and like them though I might get a set of HP+ for the events.

Leading the Central Florida Region at least for now.

makofoto · 04-30-2009, 03:49 PM

Why the Azenis ... and why such a tall tire? 245/40/17 would have been better ...

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1750146

Leonardo · 04-30-2009, 04:10 PM

Because its all I could get from a sponsor at this point and I didn't have moola to put up for something more. Trust me, up to this point I have been running my DD tires so this is going to be an improvement.

And that link would have helped a couple of weeks back as well.

The set was $494.00

makofoto · 04-30-2009, 04:17 PM

But there are always discussions about what the top tires are on Motorsports and the SCCA forums. Or you can just ask. The 615 is at least one generation behind the times. Not a great tire at the limit ... lets got fairly abruptly. I just paid $525.76 for my Bridgestone RE-11 AND I get $100 back during the promotion.

sureshot007 · 04-30-2009, 04:26 PM

I'm in on the wagon crew too

xcdhridr · 05-04-2009, 12:08 PM

I've got a seat (or two) open for the Farmington tour. PM me for details (check farmington post for ideas)

sureshot007 · 05-18-2009, 10:57 AM

I have noticed that in my car, when I go from full boost to hard brakes quickly, there isn't any vacuum in the system and the brake pedal is super stiff. Well, I always just thought it was an issue with my car, but yesterday I drove someone else's esp wrx and it had the same issue. Is there a solution to this?

mccanixx · 05-18-2009, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sureshot007

I have noticed that in my car, when I go from full boost to hard brakes quickly, there isn't any vacuum in the system and the brake pedal is super stiff. Well, I always just thought it was an issue with my car, but yesterday I drove someone else's esp wrx and it had the same issue. Is there a solution to this?

I have a similar issue except mine goes to the floor. I have to remember to pump it real fast after a long straight.

I was going to swap out the booster line with another wrx and try that because they have a valve in the line. I was thinking perhaps mine was faulty.

IDK.

sureshot007 · 05-18-2009, 03:44 PM

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...6&postcount=11

Anyone try this?

bcblues · 05-18-2009, 10:26 PM

I run into that when I left foot brake. It makes it hard.

BIGSKYWRX · 05-18-2009, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sureshot007

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...6&postcount=11

Anyone try this?

SP legal mod?

sureshot007 · 05-18-2009, 10:35 PM

I thought I read somewhere that vacuum canisters were allowed - they aren't? For me, it seems like a safety thing, because losing my brakes just doesn't inspire confidence.

EDIT:

15.6 - A. Any brake line, single or dual master cylinder, vacuum brake
booster, or brake proportioning valves may be used. This does
not allow multiple separate cylinders, but does allow for any
single, dual-circuit cylinder.

CamaroFS34 · 05-22-2009, 09:44 PM

I saw my car in its transition state this evening.

295/30R18s are kinda beastly looking on it. It definitely looks like a mini-Stompy.

05-18-2009, 10:35 PM	#1099
sureshot007 Scooby Specialist Member#: 142405 Join Date: Mar 2007 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: TeamHazardRally.com Vehicle: #716 Group5 S10	I thought I read somewhere that vacuum canisters were allowed - they aren't? For me, it seems like a safety thing, because losing my brakes just doesn't inspire confidence. EDIT: 15.6 - A. Any brake line, single or dual master cylinder, vacuum brake booster, or brake proportioning valves may be used. This does not allow multiple separate cylinders, but does allow for any single, dual-circuit cylinder. Last edited by sureshot007; 05-19-2009 at 09:04 AM.

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04-29-2009, 11:39 AM	#1077
stil2stock Scooby Specialist Member#: 51870 Join Date: Jan 2004 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Charlottesville, VA Vehicle: 06 STI WRB	grr...you guys aren't making this easy. Guess I'll just keep searching for the A6 in the size I want. anyone have good leads on used tires? I've exhausted my resources.

04-29-2009, 11:41 AM	#1078
digitalseance Scooby Specialist Member#: 104400 Join Date: Jan 2006 Chapter/Region: South East Location: SouthSide Jax, FL Vehicle: 169k mile race car Black	jbracingtires.net Call him, don't bother emailing until after you speak to him over the phone. Great guy, great prices, etc. He may have a hard time finding the A6s in that size though, I was successful using him 3 of the 5 times I purchased A6s.

04-29-2009, 11:44 AM	#1079
stil2stock Scooby Specialist Member#: 51870 Join Date: Jan 2004 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Charlottesville, VA Vehicle: 06 STI WRB	ya, thats who i usually use, but I've been calling him once a week at least, and he's got nothing. he told me to stop calling - said he'd call if he got some, haha. I think I annoyed him

04-29-2009, 01:29 PM	#1081
makofoto Scooby Guru Member#: 25243 Join Date: Sep 2002 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: South Pasadena, CA Vehicle: 2006 Legacy Outback Blue	Sorry ... single track AX mind! (but who recently changed the radiator and went to HP Blacks on our AX/Track Miata! )

04-29-2009, 01:56 PM	#1082
Cody Scooby Specialist Member#: 42048 Join Date: Aug 2003 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: Sonoma County Vehicle: 03 WRX Wagon Sonic Yellow	Ha! No worries. So you like the Rotora brake kit for this application (track/autoX/DD)? What about for rears? I was wondering if I could do the Subaru 2 pot rears given that you have to use the Kartboy relocating bracket AFAIK.

04-29-2009, 02:05 PM	#1083
makofoto Scooby Guru Member#: 25243 Join Date: Sep 2002 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: South Pasadena, CA Vehicle: 2006 Legacy Outback Blue	The Rotoro's were on my long ago sold WRX ... oem Miata brakes are excellent ... with steel hoses and the proper pads.

04-29-2009, 02:13 PM	#1084
Cody Scooby Specialist Member#: 42048 Join Date: Aug 2003 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: Sonoma County Vehicle: 03 WRX Wagon Sonic Yellow	Damn wagons look good with all that meat under them.

04-29-2009, 02:17 PM	#1085
makofoto Scooby Guru Member#: 25243 Join Date: Sep 2002 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: South Pasadena, CA Vehicle: 2006 Legacy Outback Blue	... I certainly agree!

04-30-2009, 02:48 PM	#1086
xcdhridr Scooby Specialist Member#: 58865 Join Date: Apr 2004 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: CO Vehicle: 2004 WRX 99ESP - Drew =)	I feel like better brakes might help once in a while, but it's few and far between. I coulda used something better at wendover. I was standing on the pedal with no hope of getting to abs for the turnaround. I had to brake SUPER early to end up where I wanted to be.

04-30-2009, 03:31 PM	#1088
Leonardo Cowabunga! Super Moderator Member#: 185 Join Date: Aug 1999 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Orlando, Fl Vehicle: 2014 Impreza Sport Ice Silver Metalic	Another wagon owner here! Waiting for the new sponsored 17x8 Rotas and UPS just dropped off a set of 245-45-17 Azenis. I have been running 235-45-18 and been using HPS pads and like them though I might get a set of HP+ for the events. Leading the Central Florida Region at least for now.

04-30-2009, 03:49 PM	#1089
makofoto Scooby Guru Member#: 25243 Join Date: Sep 2002 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: South Pasadena, CA Vehicle: 2006 Legacy Outback Blue	Why the Azenis ... and why such a tall tire? 245/40/17 would have been better ... http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1750146

04-30-2009, 04:10 PM	#1090
Leonardo Cowabunga! Super Moderator Member#: 185 Join Date: Aug 1999 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Orlando, Fl Vehicle: 2014 Impreza Sport Ice Silver Metalic	Because its all I could get from a sponsor at this point and I didn't have moola to put up for something more. Trust me, up to this point I have been running my DD tires so this is going to be an improvement. And that link would have helped a couple of weeks back as well. The set was $494.00

04-30-2009, 04:17 PM	#1091
makofoto Scooby Guru Member#: 25243 Join Date: Sep 2002 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: South Pasadena, CA Vehicle: 2006 Legacy Outback Blue	But there are always discussions about what the top tires are on Motorsports and the SCCA forums. Or you can just ask. The 615 is at least one generation behind the times. Not a great tire at the limit ... lets got fairly abruptly. I just paid $525.76 for my Bridgestone RE-11 AND I get $100 back during the promotion.

04-30-2009, 04:26 PM	#1092
sureshot007 Scooby Specialist Member#: 142405 Join Date: Mar 2007 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: TeamHazardRally.com Vehicle: #716 Group5 S10	I'm in on the wagon crew too

05-04-2009, 12:08 PM	#1093
xcdhridr Scooby Specialist Member#: 58865 Join Date: Apr 2004 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: CO Vehicle: 2004 WRX 99ESP - Drew =)	I've got a seat (or two) open for the Farmington tour. PM me for details (check farmington post for ideas)

05-18-2009, 10:57 AM	#1094
sureshot007 Scooby Specialist Member#: 142405 Join Date: Mar 2007 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: TeamHazardRally.com Vehicle: #716 Group5 S10	I have noticed that in my car, when I go from full boost to hard brakes quickly, there isn't any vacuum in the system and the brake pedal is super stiff. Well, I always just thought it was an issue with my car, but yesterday I drove someone else's esp wrx and it had the same issue. Is there a solution to this?

05-18-2009, 03:44 PM	#1096
sureshot007 Scooby Specialist Member#: 142405 Join Date: Mar 2007 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: TeamHazardRally.com Vehicle: #716 Group5 S10	http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...6&postcount=11 Anyone try this?

05-18-2009, 10:26 PM	#1097
bcblues Scooby Specialist Member#: 17256 Join Date: Apr 2002 Chapter/Region: South East Location: America's Outback Vehicle: 18 Outback on the road....	I run into that when I left foot brake. It makes it hard.

05-22-2009, 09:44 PM	#1100
CamaroFS34 Scooby Guru Member#: 6850 Join Date: May 2001 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: SoBWI, MD Vehicle: 1996 Camaro Z28 1LE, '23 WRX & '19 XV	I saw my car in its transition state this evening. 295/30R18s are kinda beastly looking on it. It definitely looks like a mini-Stompy.