ESP - The competition - Page 94

bradowen · 08-22-2014, 02:16 PM

I'm starting to get excited too. I think I'm one wheel bearing away from being ready to go. However not looking forward to having the same conversation over and over next week.

Coworker: Oh, you are gone next week? Where are you going?
Me: Nebraska.
Coworker: huh? <confused look> Do you have family there?
Me: No.
Coworker: oh <even more confused look>, well have fun! <fakes enthusiasm>
Me: Thanks, I will! <genuine enthusiasm>

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CamaroFS34 · 08-22-2014, 07:44 PM

After the preservice week from hell, and my new department chair position, I need some time off.

But I never, ever, look forward to creating sub plans for three days straight. Ugh.

mygreenbird007 · 09-22-2014, 10:25 AM

No ruling on the WRX in ESP in October's Fastrack... http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/...rack-oct_1.pdf I also noticed the date that changes take effect (unless otherwise noted) changed to 01/01/16. Does that mean we're going to hang in ESP for another year at the least?

BeBop86 · 09-22-2014, 01:35 PM

Good question, I would assume that's what that means... but we'll see.

CamaroFS34 · 09-22-2014, 07:04 PM

Meh. Everyone's bailing on ESP anyway. Pat and Adam are going to CP, Ogburn's selling his car too.

mygreenbird007 · 09-23-2014, 10:54 AM

I sent in an email. Here's the response:

"The SEB has decided that they want the Subaru and AWD's moved to ASP. However, they are not the final decision. The Board of Directors will make the final call. That decision will be made at their October meeting which is the last weekend of that month. The November FasTrack will show all of the rules changes that the BOD approved for 2015."

Love that the exodus happens after the crybabies (likely) get their way.

UWMechEngr · 09-23-2014, 11:27 AM

Someone help me out with this, because it's not transparent enough.

The ESP -> ASP move has, per all Fastracks out, not been "Recommended to the BOD" it has only been in the "Change Proposals" section. In fact it hasn't been mentioned since the June '14 Fastrack. Am I to believe that they would send it off to the BOD without member notice, or publish the recommendation in the same Fastrack where it gets decided on by the BOD?

mccanixx · 09-23-2014, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UWMechEngr

Someone help me out with this, because it's not transparent enough.

The ESP -> ASP move has, per all Fastracks out, not been "Recommended to the BOD" it has only been in the "Change Proposals" section. In fact it hasn't been mentioned since the June '14 Fastrack. Am I to believe that they would send it off to the BOD without member notice, or publish the recommendation in the same Fastrack where it gets decided on by the BOD?

It's been sent out for member comment twice? I think they (SPAC/SEB) have all they need at this point to put it in front of the BOD?

Anything requested for comment (the point the membership is served notice) leads me to believe it will make it's way to the BOD eventually.

Mental note...buy new magnets!

BeBop86 · 09-23-2014, 07:27 PM

So, what's your plan Greg... ASP or FP?

I'll probably stick in whichever *SP class they put me in for next year... use up the tires I have.

After that, not sure. Love my car, but a cheaper car/class sounds just as fun (e.g. Miata)

subydude · 09-23-2014, 08:09 PM

Come play with me in SM.

BeBop86 · 10-04-2014, 02:58 AM

I'm thinking about it... sounds like fun, but a Miata sounds cheaper.

BeBop86 · 10-20-2014, 04:09 PM

What a load of BS...

and it's even being recommended to take affect for 2015.

http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/...-Nov%201-3.pdf

Crawlerado · 10-20-2014, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeBop86

What a load of BS...

and it's even being recommended to take affect for 2015.

http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/...-Nov%201-3.pdf

Still glad I parted my WRX and bailed..... new car will be LOADS more fun anyway and IDGAF where they put it.

Hold_Fast · 10-20-2014, 06:26 PM

Time to buy a turbo!

Anyone else contemplating a jump to SM or FP instead of jumping the subaru ship or going to ASP?

mccanixx · 10-20-2014, 06:49 PM

Thread merge !1!1111!!!!

I'll try ASP for one year before moving the WRX to SM. While concurrently building the 2 door car for FP.

I have a feeling once I drive the FP car I will no longer be interested in SP/SM though...

Hold_Fast · 10-20-2014, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mccanixx

Thread merge !1!1111!!!!

I'll try ASP for one year before moving the WRX to SM. While concurrently building the 2 door car for FP.

I have a feeling once I drive the FP car I will no longer be interested in SP/SM though...

That's exactly why I'm thinking "**** it, going FP". I'll be heavier than your little coupe, but I'll have a **** eating grin on my face.

When should we start the FP thread??

CamaroFS34 · 10-20-2014, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hold_Fast

Anyone else contemplating a jump to SM or FP instead of jumping the subaru ship or going to ASP?

Only if someone else is paying. Last I checked, no one is. I don't have a tow vehicle or trailer, and I don't have a place for them anyway.

I know Greg disagrees, but I don't see a point in starting with a WRX in ASP or SM. The only things the WRX has that're better than the STi are the gearing and the transmission weight. The STi has a better turbo, better stock brakes, better hubs/bearings, etc.

It was a good ride while it lasted.

mccanixx · 10-20-2014, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hold_Fast

That's exactly why I'm thinking "**** it, going FP". I'll be heavier than your little coupe, but I'll have a **** eating grin on my face.

When should we start the FP thread??

Eh. We'll both be 2700#'s just in midly different places.

I think Jay Storm is the "prepared" thread!

I don't agree or disagree, Karen. I just say eff it let's see what happens and drink some beer along the way.

UWMechEngr · 10-20-2014, 07:14 PM

So.... why'd they leave one of the DSM cars in ESP? Eclipse and Talon left, but Laser is still around...

subydude · 10-20-2014, 07:21 PM

If FP allowed aero I'd come join you eventually. Sadly, I'm hooked on the downforce drug, and drugs are good.

I find it incredibly amusing that you can build a full interior Impreza to be at minimum weight in a prepared class.

sureshot007 · 10-20-2014, 07:26 PM

I'm pretty sure the Laser was never available awd and turbo.

Splash · 10-20-2014, 07:58 PM

http://www.edmunds.com/plymouth/lase...viewId=5019647

UWMechEngr · 10-20-2014, 07:59 PM

92-94 had the Laser RS Turbo AWD.

sureshot007 · 10-21-2014, 09:10 AM

Well I'll be damned. I guess I have just never seen one before, and I have a few friends that are DSM addicts. You learn something new every day - thanks!

griceiv · 10-21-2014, 10:12 AM

You guys did notice that a subie won ASP this year right?

I'm stuggling to understand why most of you would rather sell your cars for a loss or spend a **** ton of money on an SM build instead of buying a used turbo and coming to ASP. Greg has already shown that the wrx is ASP worthy without any changes. I'm worried that the spac gave you guys too much to be honest. The sky is not falling.

10-20-2014, 06:26 PM	#2339
Hold_Fast Scooby Specialist Member#: 175837 Join Date: Mar 2008 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Philly Burbs Vehicle: #61 9.5% FP	Time to buy a turbo! Anyone else contemplating a jump to SM or FP instead of jumping the subaru ship or going to ASP? Last edited by Hold_Fast; 10-20-2014 at 06:34 PM.

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08-22-2014, 02:16 PM	#2326
bradowen Scooby Newbie Member#: 172179 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Phoenix AZ Vehicle: 2006 WRX	I'm starting to get excited too. I think I'm one wheel bearing away from being ready to go. However not looking forward to having the same conversation over and over next week. Coworker: Oh, you are gone next week? Where are you going? Me: Nebraska. Coworker: huh? <confused look> Do you have family there? Me: No. Coworker: oh <even more confused look>, well have fun! <fakes enthusiasm> Me: Thanks, I will! <genuine enthusiasm> * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

08-22-2014, 07:44 PM	#2327
CamaroFS34 Scooby Guru Member#: 6850 Join Date: May 2001 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: SoBWI, MD Vehicle: 1996 Camaro Z28 1LE, '23 WRX & '19 XV	After the preservice week from hell, and my new department chair position, I need some time off. But I never, ever, look forward to creating sub plans for three days straight. Ugh.

09-22-2014, 10:25 AM	#2328
mygreenbird007 Scooby Specialist Member#: 154767 Join Date: Jul 2007 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Harrisburg, PA	No ruling on the WRX in ESP in October's Fastrack... http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/...rack-oct_1.pdf I also noticed the date that changes take effect (unless otherwise noted) changed to 01/01/16. Does that mean we're going to hang in ESP for another year at the least?

09-22-2014, 01:35 PM	#2329
BeBop86 Scooby Guru Member#: 147776 Join Date: May 2007 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Seattle, WA Vehicle: 2001 Forester 2013 Scion FR-S	Good question, I would assume that's what that means... but we'll see.

09-22-2014, 07:04 PM	#2330
CamaroFS34 Scooby Guru Member#: 6850 Join Date: May 2001 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: SoBWI, MD Vehicle: 1996 Camaro Z28 1LE, '23 WRX & '19 XV	Meh. Everyone's bailing on ESP anyway. Pat and Adam are going to CP, Ogburn's selling his car too.

09-23-2014, 10:54 AM	#2331
mygreenbird007 Scooby Specialist Member#: 154767 Join Date: Jul 2007 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Harrisburg, PA	I sent in an email. Here's the response: "The SEB has decided that they want the Subaru and AWD's moved to ASP. However, they are not the final decision. The Board of Directors will make the final call. That decision will be made at their October meeting which is the last weekend of that month. The November FasTrack will show all of the rules changes that the BOD approved for 2015." Love that the exodus happens after the crybabies (likely) get their way.

09-23-2014, 11:27 AM	#2332
UWMechEngr Scooby Specialist Member#: 193756 Join Date: Nov 2008 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Spokane, WA Vehicle: 2005 LGT Wagon Silver	Someone help me out with this, because it's not transparent enough. The ESP -> ASP move has, per all Fastracks out, *not* been "Recommended to the BOD" it has only been in the "Change Proposals" section. In fact it hasn't been mentioned since the June '14 Fastrack. Am I to believe that they would send it off to the BOD without member notice, or publish the recommendation in the same Fastrack where it gets decided on by the BOD?

09-23-2014, 07:27 PM	#2334
BeBop86 Scooby Guru Member#: 147776 Join Date: May 2007 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Seattle, WA Vehicle: 2001 Forester 2013 Scion FR-S	So, what's your plan Greg... ASP or FP? I'll probably stick in whichever *SP class they put me in for next year... use up the tires I have. After that, not sure. Love my car, but a cheaper car/class sounds just as fun (e.g. Miata)

09-23-2014, 08:09 PM	#2335
subydude Scooby Guru Member#: 80649 Join Date: Jan 2005 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Columbia, SC Vehicle: 2000 2.5 Auto-X RSTi Sparkly	Come play with me in SM.

10-04-2014, 02:58 AM	#2336
BeBop86 Scooby Guru Member#: 147776 Join Date: May 2007 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Seattle, WA Vehicle: 2001 Forester 2013 Scion FR-S	I'm thinking about it... sounds like fun, but a Miata sounds cheaper.

10-20-2014, 04:09 PM	#2337
BeBop86 Scooby Guru Member#: 147776 Join Date: May 2007 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Seattle, WA Vehicle: 2001 Forester 2013 Scion FR-S	What a load of BS... and it's even being recommended to take affect for 2015. http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/...-Nov%201-3.pdf

10-20-2014, 06:49 PM	#2340
mccanixx Scooby Specialist Member#: 60566 Join Date: Apr 2004 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: San Diego, Ca. Vehicle: 2005 XT 5sp, 02 WRX 01 Legacy 95 Impreza L	Thread merge !1!1111!!!! I'll try ASP for one year before moving the WRX to SM. While concurrently building the 2 door car for FP. I have a feeling once I drive the FP car I will no longer be interested in SP/SM though...

10-20-2014, 07:14 PM	#2344
UWMechEngr Scooby Specialist Member#: 193756 Join Date: Nov 2008 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Spokane, WA Vehicle: 2005 LGT Wagon Silver	So.... why'd they leave one of the DSM cars in ESP? Eclipse and Talon left, but Laser is still around...

10-20-2014, 07:21 PM	#2345
subydude Scooby Guru Member#: 80649 Join Date: Jan 2005 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Columbia, SC Vehicle: 2000 2.5 Auto-X RSTi Sparkly	If FP allowed aero I'd come join you eventually. Sadly, I'm hooked on the downforce drug, and drugs are good. I find it incredibly amusing that you can build a full interior Impreza to be at minimum weight in a prepared class.

10-20-2014, 07:26 PM	#2346
sureshot007 Scooby Specialist Member#: 142405 Join Date: Mar 2007 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: TeamHazardRally.com Vehicle: #716 Group5 S10	I'm pretty sure the Laser was never available awd and turbo.

10-20-2014, 07:58 PM	#2347
Splash Scooby Specialist Member#: 55936 Join Date: Feb 2004 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Columbus, OH Vehicle: 04 WRX STi PSM	http://www.edmunds.com/plymouth/lase...viewId=5019647

10-20-2014, 07:59 PM	#2348
UWMechEngr Scooby Specialist Member#: 193756 Join Date: Nov 2008 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Spokane, WA Vehicle: 2005 LGT Wagon Silver	92-94 had the Laser RS Turbo AWD.

10-21-2014, 09:10 AM	#2349
sureshot007 Scooby Specialist Member#: 142405 Join Date: Mar 2007 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: TeamHazardRally.com Vehicle: #716 Group5 S10	Well I'll be damned. I guess I have just never seen one before, and I have a few friends that are DSM addicts. You learn something new every day - thanks!

10-21-2014, 10:12 AM	#2350
griceiv Scooby Newbie Member#: 162781 Join Date: Oct 2007	You guys did notice that a subie won ASP this year right? I'm stuggling to understand why most of you would rather sell your cars for a loss or spend a **** ton of money on an SM build instead of buying a used turbo and coming to ASP. Greg has already shown that the wrx is ASP worthy without any changes. I'm worried that the spac gave you guys too much to be honest. The sky is not falling.