Formula 1 2024

[MrH]

The Mag did it again.
Caused a big accident took Perez , Hulk and himself out.
Both Alpines collide before the tunnel. Ocon is out. Looks like he pissed off the team boss for that manuver.
Sainz gets lucky. Gets a punture on the first turn. Race gets red flag.

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[torquemada]

second snoozefest in a row

[MrH]

Result of the Grand Prix de Monaco.

Pos Driver Team Laps Gap
1 Leclerc Ferrari 78 2hr 23:15.554
2 Piastri McLaren 78 + 0:07.152
3 Sainz Ferrari 78 + 0:07.585
4 Norris McLaren 78 + 0:08.650
5 Russell Mercedes 78 + 0:13.309
6 Verstappen Red Bull 78 + 0:13.853
7 Hamilton Mercedes 78 + 0:14.908
8 Tsunoda RB 77 + 1 Lap
9 Albon Williams 77 + 1 Lap
10 Gasly Alpine 77 + 1 Lap
11 Alonso Aston Martin 76 + 2 Laps
12 Ricciardo RB 76 + 2 Laps
13 Bottas Stake 76 + 2 Laps
14 Stroll Aston Martin 76 + 2 Laps
15 Sargeant Williams 76 + 2 Laps
16 Zhou Stake 76 + 2 Laps
Ocon Alpine 0 Accident Damage
Hulkenberg Haas 0 Accident
Perez Red Bull 0 Accident
Magnussen Haas 0 Accident

Boring! Boring! Boring!
All the top drivers did was change tyres after the 1st lap red flag and cruise the rest of the race.
Max and Lewis tried a tyre change but still couldn't get past Russell with 50 lap old tyres.

[MrH]

Originally Posted by torquemada

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja4hgFHVWe0

You don't happen to have one of these for the Mnaco race?
First trime ever the top 10 finish where they started.

[MrH]

Andretti names F1 kingmaker who INSISTED he'd block entry bid

https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/10...g-maffei-feud/

[GoFrogs]

Originally Posted by torquemada

Ferrari testing possible rain deflector by order of the FIA

spray/rain for the driver? or spray/rain for the car behind?

in any case, no amount of deflector is going to reduce road spray for the car behind; just not possible.

I think changing a tire becomes a bit more difficult for those deflectors on.

Just throw some Rally Armor flaps on there and they are good to go...can even color match to the car's livery.

[torquemada]

it is already gone

[MrH]

I see our ol' pal Flavio is going to make a comeback to Apline.

https://www.pitpass.com/77834/Briato...urn-to-Enstone


Also NASCAR Stewart-Haas is closing up shop after the '24 season.
Don't know what that means for the Haass F! Team.

FIA boss to Andretti "Buy a existing team"
Andretti already tried that, nobody wants to sell.
Sauber
Alpine
Williams
Haas

[TitoBandito]

When I turned on FP1 and it started with a shot of the special livery McLaren... I didn't know they were going to run that Senna/Brazilian flag livery in Monaco and my immediate thought was it was a Monaco special livery for the old Benetton F1 team that eventually became Renault/Alpine, as a throwback to early 90s Benetton colors.
Seriously, look up like a 1992 or 1993 Benetton F1 car, same yellow front, green in back, and a blue stripe across the nose (albeit blue stripe with "FORD").

Also, regarding the actual race. Agree it can be categorized as a snooze fest but I am glad that LeClerc finally broke his Monaco GP curse with a win, and Piastri got on the podium.

[torquemada]

Originally Posted by MrH

You don't happen to have one of these for the Mnaco race?
First trime ever the top 10 finish where they started.

2024 Monaco Grand Prix Timelapse - YouTube

2024 Monaco Grand Prix Timelapse - YouTube

[MrH]

I just fell asleep watching that.
It's like they race the full 78 laps behind a safety car.

[MrH]

Ocon out after '24 season .
Perez stays at Redbull for "25-'26

[340Duster]

Tsunoda and Gasly reunion tour 2025?

[MrH]

Looks like a very wet start to the race.

[MrH]

1 Max Verstappen Red Bull
2 Lando Norris McLaren 3.879
3 George Russell Mercedes 4.317
4 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 4.915
5 Oscar Piastri McLaren 10.199
6 Fernando Alonso Aston Martin 17.510
7 Lance Stroll Aston Martin 23.625
8 Daniel Ricciardo RB 28.672
9 Pierre Gasly Alpine 30.021
10 Esteban Ocon Alpine 30.313
11 Nico Hulkenberg Haas 30.824
12 Kevin Magnussen Haas 31.253
13 Valtteri Bottas Sauber 40.487
14 Yuki Tsunoda RB 52.694
15 Guanyu Zhou Sauber 1 LAP
16 Carlos Sainz Jr Ferrari DNF
17 Alex Albon Williams DNF
18 Sergio Perez Haas DNF
19 Charles Leclerc Ferrari DNF
20 Logan Sargeant Williams DNF

Nice try by Haas by using the wet tyres.
A stinker race by Ferrari.
Stinker by Perez.
McLaren still better than the factoy team.

[torquemada]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LydQmIH-8DI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LydQmIH-8DI

[hi5.0]

If only HAAS could have made things work. Smart call at the opening of the race. Ferrari strikes (out) again! And more points for Alpine. Is this the most DNF during a race under the current F1 (car) rules set?

[MrH]

Alpine may abandon works Renault engine to become customer F1 team

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/105080...stomer-f1-team

After lobbying hard for these hybird engines and 10 years later they still can't get it right and apparently never will.

[TitoBandito]

Alpine not running Renault engines...that would be weird.

I know they are the "Alpine" team now, but for all intents and purposes, they are still the Enstone based on-again off-again Renault team. Since they took over from the old Benetton F1 team. I associate Alpine more with European rally victories that occurred before my time, but I digress.

If they ditch their own manufacturer engine and opt for Red Bull, that would make strange bedfellows. I remember when Red Bull - Renault was synonymous with championships around 2010, but the Red Bull team and the Renault engine side fell out pretty hard after the turbo era started in 2014.

[MrH]

Times from today's qualifying session for the Aramco Gran Premio de Espana.

Pos Driver Team Time Gap
1 Norris McLaren 1:11.383 145.941 mph
2 Verstappen Red Bull 1:11.403 0.020
3 Hamilton Mercedes 1:11.701 0.318
4 Russell Mercedes 1:11.703 0.320
5 Leclerc Ferrari 1:11.731 0.348
6 Sainz Ferrari 1:11.736 0.353
7 Gasly Alpine 1:11.857 0.474
8 Perez Red Bull 1:12.061 0.678
9 Ocon Alpine 1:12.125 0.742
10 Piastri McLaren No Time
11 Alonso Aston Martin 1:12.128
12 Bottas Stake 1:12.227
13 Hulkenberg Haas 1:12.310
14 Stroll Aston Martin 1:12.372
15 Zhou Stake 1:12.738
16 Magnussen Haas 1:12.937
17 Tsunoda RB 1:12.985
18 Ricciardo RB 1:13.075
19 Albon Williams 1:13.153
20 Sargeant Williams 1:13.509

This race will be as entertaining as Imola. Not much passsing.
Maybe this will be an entertaining season.
Did somebody lit a fire under Alpine rear?
AM is going backwards.
Did Sianz really sign with Williams? That could be career suicide.

[hi5.0]

Let us hope this quali. mix is an indicator of the rest of the racing this season. Shake things up and keep it genuinely interesting. Seems MCL and MB are getting a handle on their cars (maybe in MB's case, drivers finally coming to grips with the car's characteristics). Alpine suddenly improving after Briatore shows up? Hmm.... Speaking of, OCO and PIA alongside each other on the grid could be dangerous at the start.

Not sure what the best move could have been for SAI at this point. Audi would probably be the better choice in the end given their history in motorsport, but he might not be retained long enough to see the results. Get more teams in there (like Andretti) to open up more seats and it would be hilarious if Alpine becomes a customer for GM/Cadillac power units since it seems they will not use Renault as engine supplier (really?!).

[MrH]

Result of the Aramco Gran Premio de Espana.

Pos Driver Team Laps Gap
1 Verstappen Red Bull 66 1h 28:20.227
2 Norris McLaren 66 + 0:02.219
3 Hamilton Mercedes 66 + 0:17.790
4 Russell Mercedes 66 + 0:22.320
5 Leclerc Ferrari 66 + 0:22.709
6 Sainz Ferrari 66 + 0:31.028
7 Piastri McLaren 66 + 0:33.760
8 Perez Red Bull 66 + 0:59.524
9 Gasly Alpine 66 + 1:02.025
10 Ocon Alpine 66 + 1:11.889
11 Hulkenberg Haas 66 + 1:19.215
12 Alonso Aston Martin 65 + 1 Lap
13 Zhou Stake 65 + 1 Lap
14 Stroll Aston Martin 65 + 1 Lap
15 Ricciardo RB 65 + 1 Lap
16 Bottas Stake 65 + 1 Lap
17 Magnussen Haas 65 + 1 Lap
18 Albon Williams 65 + 1 Lap
19 Tsunoda RB 65 + 1 Lap
20 Sargeant Williams 64 + 2 Laps

Max wins again but not by much.
Did Alpine secretly swapped cars with AM.
Stinker race by RB.
Only passing was on the long straight with DRS.
At least the next 2 races are good tracks.
It took 15 laps for the steward to informed the Mag that he jumped the start. Guess they did not want him to undercut Alonso.

[340Duster]

RB and Stake switched places this race

[MrH]

What happen to the Ferrari updates?
Why do these long pit stints never work? We'll go longer and get them at the end. It seems that it's always off by 2-3 laps.

[torquemada]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS2cubpCJoc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS2cubpCJoc