Formula 1 2024

[340Duster]

Andretti is just getting the complete shaft IMO given what they have been able to put behind their name. Liberty Media needs to realize their market and reach.

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[MrH]

Times from today's qualifying session for the Hungarian Grand Prix.

Pos Driver Team Time Gap
1 Norris McLaren 1:15.227 130.276 mph
2 Piastri McLaren 1:15.249 0.022
3 Verstappen Red Bull 1:15.273 0.046
4 Sainz Ferrari 1:15.696 0.469
5 Hamilton Mercedes 1:15.854 0.627
6 Leclerc Ferrari 1:15.905 0.678
7 Alonso Aston Martin 1:16.043 0.816
8 Stroll Aston Martin 1:16.244 1.017
9 Ricciardo RB 1:16.447 1.220
10 Tsunoda RB 1:16.477 1.250
11 Hulkenberg Haas 1:16.317
12 Bottas Stake 1:16.384
13 Albon Williams 1:16.429
14 Sargeant Williams 1:16.543
15 Magnussen Haas 1:16.548
16 Perez Red Bull 1:17.886
17 Russell Mercedes 1:17.968
18 Zhou Stake 1:18.037
19 Ocon Alpine 1:18.049
20 Gasly Alpine 1:18.166

Time for the Hung-bor-ring.
McLaren front roe lockout. Should be a win.
Perez walls another car again.
So did Sargent, but not too bad.
Russell pissed about not having enough fuel for another lap.

[torquemada]

RedBull should get rid of Perez, immediately

[MrH]

I love it when a diver claims he would've had pole if it weren't for a red or yellow flag.

[340Duster]

Hungary started out pretty meh, but the drama was entertaining.

[torquemada]

Max loses his cool, he acted like he was in his first F1 years, not worthy for a F1 champion.
McLaren may have fixed their car, and they may have two of the fastest drivers on the grid, but they still have to fix their race strategy and their decisions, that is still level amateur.

[MrH]

Result of the Hungarian Grand Prix.

Pos Driver Team Laps Gap
1 Piastri McLaren 70 1h 38:01.989
2 Norris McLaren 70 + 0:02.141
3 Hamilton Mercedes 70 + 0:14.880
4 Leclerc Ferrari 70 + 0:19.686
5 Verstappen Red Bull 70 + 0:21.349
6 Sainz Ferrari 70 + 0:23.073
7 Perez Red Bull 70 + 0:39.792
8 Russell Mercedes 70 + 0:42.368
9 Tsunoda RB 70 + 1:17.259
10 Stroll Aston Martin 70 + 1:17.976
11 Alonso Aston Martin 70 + 1:22.460
12 Ricciardo RB 69 + 1 Lap
13 Hulkenberg Haas 69 + 1 Lap
14 Albon Williams 69 + 1 Lap
15 Magnussen Haas 69 + 1 Lap
16 Bottas Stake 69 + 1 Lap
17 Sargeant Williams 69 + 1 Lap
18 Ocon Alpine 69 + 1 Lap
19 Zhou Stake 69 + 1 Lap
Gasly Alpine 33 Retired

First time 7 different drivers won a race since 2012 ( Moldenaldo )
At least Perez and Russell battled throughtt the crowd.
Stroll beat Alonso again.
Another stinker by Alpine.

[hi5.0]

Not the best way to win, maybe next time it will be more of a real fight to the end. The YT Hungarian GP highlights thumbnail had me thinking "Perez again!?" The real drama was over team radio. Sounds like VER is not handling the prospect of no more easy wins from here on out very well.

[MrH]

Is Newey doing these Redbull updates?
They don't seem to be working very well.

[dwf137]

Max definitely doesn't like the new updates, and considering that Checo had a pretty strong run from behind, it looks like he's more comfortable with the old setup. For his sake, I'm hoping RB let him stick with the old setup, he's not as good at adjusting to new setups as Max is, and Max is struggling... Max sounded more like Yuki on the radio than a world champion...

The McLaren mess was just heartbreaking. They stole a win from Lando and gave Piastri a win that he can't really celebrate. Terrible call.

[parker]

Some show.

[blurred]

Originally Posted by MrH

Is Newey doing these Redbull updates?
They don't seem to be working very well.

No. He is gone from the F1 side

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[MrH]

Whoever did these Redbull updates should be fired.
This is a total melt down.
The first 3 out 4 races Max was winning +20 sec over Ferrari and +30 sec over McLaren.
After that some how some way McLaren made back those 30 seconds and more.
Seems like Redbull and Ferrari went backwards.

[torquemada]

Audi/Sauber fires Oliver Hoffmann and Andreas Seidl....nothing of value is lost
Audi/Sauber hires Mattia Binotto and Mike Krack...nothing of value is gained

[MrH]

Originally Posted by torquemada

Audi/Sauber fires Oliver Hoffmann and Andreas Seidl....nothing of value is lost
Audi/Sauber hires Mattia Binotto and Mike Krack...nothing of value is gained

Maybe botch pitstops and stupid tire strategies.

[torquemada]

Ocon enters Team Haas

[MrH]

Times from today's qualifying session for the Rolex Belgian Grand Prix.

Pos Driver Team Time Gap

2 Leclerc Ferrari 1:53.754 0.595
3 Perez Red Bull 1:53.765 0.606
4 Hamilton Mercedes 1:53.835 0.676
5 Norris McLaren 1:53.981 0.822
6 Piastri McLaren 1:54.027 0.868
7 Russell Mercedes 1:54.184 1.025
8 Sainz Ferrari 1:54.477 1.318
9 Alonso Aston Martin 1:54.765 1.606
10 Ocon Alpine 1:54.810 1.651
11 Albon Williams 1:54.473
1 Verstappen Red Bull 1:53.159 138.459 mph
12 Gasly Alpine 1:54.635
13 Ricciardo RB 1:54.682
14 Bottas Stake 1:54.764
15 Stroll Aston Martin 1:55.716
16 Hulkenberg Haas 1:56.308
17 Magnussen Haas 1:56.500
18 Tsunoda RB 1:56.593
19 Sargeant Williams 1:57.230
20 Zhou Stake 1:57.775

Wet Qualifying
Max gets pole but a 10 place penaty for engine change.
Might be an interesting race with Leclerc and Perez on front row.

[hi5.0]

... or a first-corner crash-fest. Will Ferrari "strategy" strike again? Thinking HAM might pull out another win if VER gets too caught up in traffic.

[340Duster]

MB 1-2! The one stop strategy that Russell gambled on was impressive.

[torquemada]

Originally Posted by 340Duster

MB 1-2! The one stop strategy that Russell gambled on was impressive.

nope, Russell disqualified, car is not heavy enough

[340Duster]

Originally Posted by torquemada

nope, Russell disqualified, car is not heavy enough

Damn.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/be...ight/10639946/

The Briton clinched a third F1 victory after switching strategies to a one-stopper, and held off a rapidly-chasing Lewis Hamilton for the lead until the end.

However, post-race checks by the FIA have shown that the car still had fuel in it when drained to the 798kg weight limit and, after the rest was taken out of the car, the weight dropped to 796.5kg.

The FIA technical delegates' report reads: "After the Race, car number 63 was weighed and its weight was 798.0kg, which is the minimum weight required by TR Article 4.1.

"After this, fuel was drained out of the car and 2.8 litres of fuel were removed. The car was not fully drained according to the draining procedure submitted by the team in their legality documents as TR Article 6.5.2 is fulfilled.

"The car was weighed again on the FIA inside and outside scales and the weight was 796.5kg. The calibration of the outside and inside scales was confirmed and witnessed by the competitor.

"As this is 1.5 kg below the minimum weight requested in TR Article 4.1, which also has to be respected at all times during the Competition, I am referring this matter to the Stewards for their consideration."

[MrH]

Result of the Rolex Belgian Grand Prix.

Pos Driver Team Laps Gap
1 Russell Mercedes DQ
2 Hamilton Mercedes 44 + 0:00.526
3 Piastri McLaren 44 + 0:01.173
4 Leclerc Ferrari 44 + 0:08.549
5 Verstappen Red Bull 44 + 0:09.226
6 Norris McLaren 44 + 0:09.850
7 Sainz Ferrari 44 + 0:19.795
8 Perez Red Bull 44 + 0:43.195
9 Alonso Aston Martin 44 + 0:49.963
10 Ocon Alpine 44 + 0:52.552
11 Ricciardo RB 44 + 0:54.926
12 Stroll Aston Martin 44 + 1:03.011
13 Albon Williams 44 + 1:03.651
14 Gasly Alpine 44 + 1:04.365
15 Magnussen Haas 44 + 1:06.631
16 Bottas Stake 44 + 1:10.638
17 Tsunoda RB 44 + 1:16.737
18 Sargeant Williams 44 + 1:26.057
19 Hulkenberg Haas 44 + 1:28.833
Zhou Stake 5 + 1 Lap

Lewis wins. Russell gets DQ for low weight.
Max gets by Norris and stay ahead of him.
Stinker by Perez.
7 times in a row the pole sitter did not win.
1-3 1.17 seconds
4-6 1.6 seconds

[MrH]

Sianz to Williams.
Where drivers go to die.

[torquemada]

Originally Posted by MrH

Sianz to Williams.
Where drivers go to die.

well, another two years of big money, somebody has to think about his pension

and, with my deepest disgust, Ricciardo moves up to RedBull, again. You heard it here first.

[MrH]

Yep.
That was his race to win. He blew it.
Redbull is still a better car than Mercedes.
No reason for that performance.

Also, on another front:
GM was talking with Alpine.
Could this be Andretti's way in.