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12-13-2018, 01:18 PM | #51 |
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That makes sense. I was just thinking that marketing has jacked up so many things anyway, they'd sell an FMR2 as a classic MR2 and tell everyone to shove off.
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12-13-2018, 01:21 PM | #52 |
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Considering how well the BRZ/86 turned out as a philosophical brother to the AE86, I have confidence that they'll achieve the same thing with the MR2.
Now, if they'd partnered with BMW or VAG for the MR2, I'd be less sanguine about it, and expect yet another R35-like mess the new Supra looking like it might be: way overpriced technology demonstrator. But when working with Subaru, they turned out a remarkably sober and sane product. |
12-13-2018, 01:30 PM | #53 |
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Toyota seems to inspire Subaru and Subaru seems to temper Toyota, so it's a good partnership for sure.
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12-13-2018, 05:07 PM | #54 |
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I love (rear?) mid-engined cars as much as the next car enthusiast, but, boy, working on these cars is a PITA.
I'd rather have something like BRZ/AE86 that I can service in my garage with a simple engine crane. I just caught up with an episode of Wheeler Dealers featuring a 1991 MR2 and that scared me straight... |
12-14-2018, 08:00 AM | #55 | |
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12-14-2018, 09:10 AM | #56 |
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12-14-2018, 10:18 AM | #57 |
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Mr Toyoda said it and asked if Subaru would return in WRC. Maybe develop a car together. Why not a AWD BRZ turbo. Subaru done at prodrive, Toyota at Makinen.
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12-14-2018, 10:50 AM | #58 | |
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So, it would have to be sprung differently and the chassis wouldn't be as nimble and the ride would be much stiffer. Basically, a AWD BRZ would ruin what the the BRZ was supposed to be. Now a redesigned WRX, maintaining the design purpose behind the WRX but with design input from toyota, that could definitely be good. I can see more rear biased power, mechanical or torsion LSD in the rear, sleeker lines, etc. |
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12-14-2018, 12:32 PM | #59 |
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How good the BRZ is, the car dus not fit in Subaru line. Makes no Sense to make a image. By the way, tommi made a AWD conversion of GT86 to convince mr Toyoda. Can't be impossible it so far away.
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12-14-2018, 12:33 PM | #60 |
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12-14-2018, 07:58 PM | #61 | |
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12-15-2018, 07:46 AM | #62 |
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Or just use electric for the FWD aspect. Way simpler without moving the engine up, down, or forward.
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12-15-2018, 09:49 AM | #63 |
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Oh. I really like that idea. But please keep it light. Even though it is underpowered, the 3rd gen MR2 handles way better than the previous two because it is light.
I'd love to see a miata-killer in autocross with this new deuce. |
12-18-2018, 05:09 PM | #64 | |
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12-18-2018, 05:10 PM | #65 |
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12-18-2018, 05:59 PM | #67 | |
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12-18-2018, 07:58 PM | #68 |
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Just curious, what market segment is this car aimed at? I think I understand pretty well most of the other Subaru models. But I don't quite get who would want this car?
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12-18-2018, 08:34 PM | #69 |
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Something something, pissing in the wind, something something
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12-19-2018, 07:51 AM | #71 | |
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Low budget sports cars are still a desire to many, as the prices keep increasing. You know... "fun" cars? --kC |
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12-19-2018, 08:49 AM | #72 | |
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If the BRZ can compete with base model ecoboost mustangs, then this will fight the Mustang GT. Not necessarily in power, but in price range. It'll perform in suspension, geometry, and balance, like the Mustang GT does on horse power: very well. |
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12-19-2018, 09:45 AM | #73 |
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Sure, it's going to be more expensive... probably around or just a little more than CTR/STi/Golf R money (which is more than the twins too) yet a hole in the lineup between GT86, and Supra.
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12-19-2018, 01:52 PM | #74 | |
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https://paultan.org/2018/07/26/akio-...he-spots-tada/ They should really just drop the 86, call the four cylinder Supra the Celica, the 6 cylinder a Celica Supra. Build a MR2 using the prius drivetrain flipped around and sell it at 25k. Then bring out the S-FR as the new 86, considering it has the same weight and size of the old Corolla GTS and price it at 15k. |
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12-20-2018, 11:34 AM | #75 | |
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I don't think there is much of a market for this car, and I don't think Subaru/Toyota will go forward with it. |
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