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Old 08-21-2018, 06:08 AM   #1
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Default Will the real 2020 Subaru WRX STI please stand up?




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We’re hoping beyond hope that this computer-generated rendering of the next-generation Subaru WRX STI is representative of the final production version due to break cover in 2020.

Created by Automedia, the CGI is based on the Subaru Viziv Performance STI Concept revealed in January but adds a few changes that could have a reasonable potential of making it to production.

The front-end, for example, features realistic headlights — not just super-slim stylised LED running lights. The overall profile looks pretty tidy too, but the angular wheel-arches are about as likely as snow on the Nullarbor.



The current Subaru WRX STI is in the shadows… but not for long
The rear wing – usually the most dramatic element of the WRX STI – is virtually unchanged compared to the official concept car released at the 2018 Tokyo Auto Salon, and a blue coat of paint gives the render a closer approximation to current models.

Although Subaru Australia wouldn’t comment on how close the artist’s impression is to the real thing, spokesperson Chloe Fraser said the Japanese brand’s new sports flagship will appease fans.

“The Subaru WRX STI is an iconic car and an important part of the Subaru range,” she said.



A sketch of the Subaru Viziv concept hints at the design direction of the new WRX STI
“With a strong heritage in rally and a loyal customer base, we’re sure this love will continue when the next generation arrives.”

Subaru has a reputation for delivering visually stunning concepts that turn into hum-drum production cars, so although the Subaru Viziv Performance STI Concept is a stunner it’s likely to be dialled back for the production version.

Nevertheless, we’re crossing our fingers that the next Subaru WRX STI looks something like this when it rocks out in late 2019 or early 2020.


What if the new WRX STI looked like this?? Wing deletion could work


What we know




Based on the new(ish) Subaru Global Platform that underpins the current Subaru Impreza and upcoming Subaru Forester, the 2020 Subaru WRX STI is expected to be the most powerful and sophisticated STI vehicle yet.

Subaru is keeping its cards close to its chest when it comes to powertrains but as we’ve reported before the company is understood to be shooting for a four-cylinder turbo-petrol boxer engine with an electric module to boost power and reduce CO2 emissions.

Given that Subaru does not have the financial might of companies such as Toyota, it’s understood to be holding back the launch of the next-generation WRX and WRX STI in order to launch them with hybrid powertrains.



The bonnet scoop will never die… Never!


The current 2018 Subaru WRX STI, which is priced at a Civic Type R-rivalling $51,290, ain’t short of muscle, its 2.5-litre turbo-petrol boxer four pumping out 221kW and 407Nm.

We’d be surprised if the new WRX STI didn’t pack at least 250kW and 500Nm, giving it enough juju to take on the Ford Focus RS.

On that topic, the new WRX STI could deliver much more progressive all-wheel drive power delivery given a new torque vectoring system that may incorporate the hybrid module to almost instantly apportion torque where it’s needed.

Although the vehicle is being talked about as a 2020 model, there are no solid launch dates for the new Subaru WRX STI.


Some serious braking going on right there!


Back in 2016 we spoke to a senior Subaru engineer who said: “The full model cycle will be about four or five years, and that’s when you’ll see a full model [with WRX and STI].”

Given the last new WRX STI arrived in late 2014, that may put the next model here in 2019.

During a pre-production drive of the new-generation 2019 Subaru Forester in Japan last month, Subaru Australia managing director Colin Christie said that performance cars will be a crucial part of the business and that new AWD high-performance models are on their way – but not until late 2019 at the earliest.

“I’m confident there will be a replacement for the WRX and STI moving forward,” he said. “It’s not five to 10 years away, either, but it certainly won’t be here in the next 12 months.”

Christie also fanned the WRX STI petrol-electric hybrid flames, explaining that the Subaru Global Platform “…will give us a performance range and an SUV range, and it will provide the perfect base from which to launch our range of hybrid, plug-in hybrid and battery-electric vehicles.”

As long as we still get an adjustable centre differential – and maybe a drift mode for good measure – bring it on!
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Old 08-21-2018, 06:33 AM   #2
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This article is like fried rice; yesterdays rice recycled, with some tidbits mixed in, but it still doesn't change the fact that it's just been reheated and mixed around.
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Old 08-21-2018, 07:47 AM   #3
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Clickbait.

The new top model STI will an aggressively styled Sport version with a NA engine capable of delivering 242HP. This will continue Toyot, er, Subaru’s move towards making common-sense appliances.
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Old 08-21-2018, 08:15 AM   #4
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Crap.
Unreasonable CGI.
Not 2020 MY.

They didnt give it 5 extra HP to change it up a year later.

Itll look like an impreza with hood scoop and flared body panels. This CGI is a total redesign.. something subaru isnt going to do for a low volume car when all they need to do (to sell well enough and profit) is modify the Impreza. I wouldnt want this car anyway.. its too small in the back (no head room) and its going backwards from subarus current design. Its not as practical looking which the WRX is famous for.. that design wont support a roof rack and 2 kids car seats.
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Old 08-21-2018, 08:37 AM   #5
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If it's a good looking concept then it's not anything close to the production vehicle. Subaru teases and fails to deliver. Whatever it is, expect it to continue with the same old EJ25.
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Old 08-21-2018, 08:44 AM   #6
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Crap.
Unreasonable CGI.
Not 2020 MY.

They didnt give it 5 extra HP to change it up a year later.

Itll look like an impreza with hood scoop and flared body panels. This CGI is a total redesign.. something subaru isnt going to do for a low volume car when all they need to do (to sell well enough and profit) is modify the Impreza. I wouldnt want this car anyway.. its too small in the back (no head room) and its going backwards from subarus current design. Its not as practical looking which the WRX is famous for.. that design wont support a roof rack and 2 kids car seats.
Exactly, Subaru made some minor changes to the EJ to continue sucking out as much life out of it as possible.
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Old 08-21-2018, 08:52 AM   #7
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I really don't think it's going to depart far from the current car, especially not that ugly skyscraper of a CGI.

Look at the new Impreza, Forester and Crosstrek. The average person would not be able to tell them apart from the previous models.

The WRX and STi will follow.
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Old 08-21-2018, 10:35 AM   #8
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Although the vehicle is being talked about as a 2020 model, there are no solid launch dates for the new Subaru WRX STI.
A bunch of winning there
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Old 08-21-2018, 12:08 PM   #9
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Well, I don’t like those clumsy wheel arches (if made into production, will surely be caped with cheap cheesy plastic trim), or the tacky red piping, or the two tone bonnet.
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Old 08-21-2018, 12:29 PM   #10
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Oh dear god I hope not...
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Old 08-21-2018, 04:59 PM   #11
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I sure as hell hope they won't burden the WRX and STI with hybrid powertrains. That's something more suited for an Impreza or Legacy than a sports car.
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Old 08-21-2018, 05:26 PM   #12
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I sure as hell hope they won't burden the WRX and STI with hybrid powertrains. That's something more suited for an Impreza or Legacy than a sports car.
That.... and these concepts look like pure dog ****
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Old 08-21-2018, 06:44 PM   #13
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please no hybrid drivetrain.
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Old 08-21-2018, 07:01 PM   #14
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Hybrid drivetrains, Eyesight 4/5 and other nanny systems are almost guaranteed. With gratis econo-box vibes sprinkled in.

Regardless of if any in here belive in either 'Make Subaru great again' or 'It was never that great to begin with' - eCVT non-hatch WRX/STis are coming.

Hopefully they will just be bland, and not Civic Si/Type R boy racer tacky bland.
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Ugh, those wheel wells....hopefully thats not something that will make it to production
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Aside from the tacky wheel wells, I really dig the CGI concept (1st pic). I also really like the coupe. Hoping they go that route, but...

Back to reality - Impreza with a hood scoop and a hybrid drive-train. The hybrid will just be the middle step to becoming fully electric. It sucks, but, inevitably, that's the future for all cars.
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Old 08-22-2018, 12:57 AM   #17
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I like it. If t's anything like that, I'm going to love.
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If they want to bring the new STi worldwide, there is no other option than to bring a hybrid version too. Also the old engine is not possible anymore.

And to bring the new car, they will have to test it at the ring. If they want to bring it next year, it should be camouflaged be there soon.
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Old 08-22-2018, 01:21 PM   #19
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That's one way of getting a Crosstrek sedan to market.
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For a niche market performance car, not bloody likely.
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For a niche market performance car, not bloody likely.
It would be in use not only for the STI. They will have to hybrid everything if they want to start Selling Cars. I am not a fan of it either. It is called WLTP test. If you score good results there the clients don't pay much taxes... In USA subarus are considered good fuel economy. Here the opposit.
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It would be in use not only for the STI. They will have to hybrid everything if they want to start Selling Cars. I am not a fan of it either. It is called WLTP test. If you score good results there the clients don't pay much taxes... In USA subarus are considered good fuel economy. Here the opposit.
What I'm saying is that the hybrid powertrain will be fine for all their other cars, but if they want to sell STIs and WRXs at all, they're going to have to keep them manual.

They're not going to introduce a hybrid powertrain with CVT when BRZs with the automatic and WRXs with CVT constitute a very small percentage of current sales of those cars. The people who buy them overwhelmingly want the manual, not a CVT automatic (or regular 6 spd automatic).

If you can't sell cars, that's worse than not being able to meet onerous regulations. People aren't going to be interested in the WRX if there's not a stick shift in it, and doubly so for the STI. There's lots of other options for automatic $30k-$40k sports cars out there that are mostly automatic already. There's very few good powerful sports cars that are affordable and still have a manual transmission.
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What I'm saying is that the hybrid powertrain will be fine for all their other cars, but if they want to sell STIs and WRXs at all, they're going to have to keep them manual.

They're not going to introduce a hybrid powertrain with CVT when BRZs with the automatic and WRXs with CVT constitute a very small percentage of current sales of those cars. The people who buy them overwhelmingly want the manual, not a CVT automatic (or regular 6 spd automatic).

If you can't sell cars, that's worse than not being able to meet onerous regulations. People aren't going to be interested in the WRX if there's not a stick shift in it, and doubly so for the STI. There's lots of other options for automatic $30k-$40k sports cars out there that are mostly automatic already. There's very few good powerful sports cars that are affordable and still have a manual transmission.
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