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Old 11-06-2018, 07:07 AM   #1
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If I were to admit to having strong ties to any one import manufacturer, I’d have to say I’d align myself with Subaru. Besides the fact that Mitsubishi turned to absolute crap over the last ten years, give or take, Subarus can offer up everything from solid, useable sedans to psychotic little rally rockets and even some of the funkiest coupes ever unleashed on a market. And since the early 1990s, they’ve all been underscored by one thing: all-wheel-drive. Subaru has been big on all four wheels driving since the 1970s and the tin-can Leone, but the advertising about the safety of AWD station wagons really hit a fever pitch when the Subaru Outback station wagons came to market in 1994. You couldn’t go anywhere in the Pacific Northwest without hearing someone extolling the benefits of Subaru’s all-wheel-drive.


It didn’t click that what Subaru was offering could actually be fun until I saw footage of the “555” Subaru rally cars and the high-flying antics of Colin McRae. Suddenly, I wanted a blue Subaru Impreza coupe with a highly strung, turbocharged flat-four that made farting, popping, and banging noises…but that wouldn’t show up on our shores until 2002, when the WRX finally crossed the pond. Since then, the WRX has been a fanboy favorite. In the right hands they can be weapons, but more often than not they are ragged to death and rebuilt to do it all over again. Luckily, some durability was engineered into the machines. This bugeye-era Rexy recently got thrown around a tough-truck course and from the footage, it looks perfectly serviceable afterwards. Now that, ladies and gentlemen, is how you should choose a family car: how well does it hold up to a severe beating!
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Old 11-06-2018, 07:08 AM   #2
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Old 11-06-2018, 02:53 PM   #3
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Too bad the Subaru of today isn't the same company it was back in 2002-2008.
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Old 11-06-2018, 05:03 PM   #4
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Too bad the Subaru of today isn't the same company it was back in 2002-2008.
Man, that was a cool company. I remember they used to offer a mindsize, and fullsize, wagon with AWD AND manual transmission.
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Old 11-06-2018, 06:15 PM   #5
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RIP Subaru

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Old 11-06-2018, 10:16 PM   #6
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RIP Subaru

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Yep, I really have no interest in late model Subaru’s. I just recently bought a 1998 2.5RS that is going to get fully built.
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Old 11-07-2018, 03:34 PM   #7
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Man, that was a cool company. I remember they used to offer a mindsize, and fullsize, wagon with AWD AND manual transmission.
I don't begrudge them their success. I totally understand taking the emphasis off of performance in order to sell tons of boring mommy mobiles and it's paid off for them handsomely. As an enthusiast though, it sucks.
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Old 11-07-2018, 04:55 PM   #8
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I don't begrudge them their success. I totally understand taking the emphasis off of performance in order to sell tons of boring mommy mobiles and it's paid off for them handsomely. As an enthusiast though, it sucks.
Yet the WRX and STI are still great enthusiast vehicles. And the BRZ is so incredibly fun.
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Old 11-07-2018, 07:32 PM   #9
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Try 1992-2008.
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Old 11-07-2018, 08:35 PM   #10
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Old 11-08-2018, 04:52 AM   #11
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RIP turbo hatches. They are missed by you Booby. So much sweet suffering.
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Old 11-08-2018, 03:43 PM   #12
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I'd roll it back farther.

Who could forget the Brat, RX Turbo, or the original GL10 3 door with the off Road package

1979-2008.
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Old 11-08-2018, 08:31 PM   #13
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So wats it going to take to make the subarus great again? bring back lsds, add real torque vectoring, more hp....
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:16 PM   #14
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I'd roll it back farther.

Who could forget the Brat, RX Turbo, or the original GL10 3 door with the off Road package

1979-2008.
I could forget the brat, rx turbo and gl10. 1992 is when the first etc came out and started the cult following and rally car fan boys.
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Old 11-09-2018, 12:09 AM   #15
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So wats it going to take to make the subarus great again? bring back lsds, add real torque vectoring, more hp....
450-500 horsepower
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Old 11-09-2018, 01:25 PM   #17
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So wats it going to take to make the subarus great again? bring back lsds, add real torque vectoring, more hp....
Bring back LSDs and follow Mazda's lead with cutting weight.
I think the power is fine.
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Old 11-09-2018, 02:59 PM   #18
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How much power did that Turbo have?


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How much power did that Turbo have?


How many AWD cars were available in 1988, despite to power?

And what was the HP of those?

Got to look at it relatively.
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Old 11-09-2018, 03:56 PM   #20
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How many AWD cars were available in 1988, despite to power?

And what was the HP of those?

Got to look at it relatively.
Isn't that the era when you could buy a Honda Civic hatch with AWD as well as a Toyota Camry or Celica with AllTrac? There was also Audi Quattro, BMW iX and even MB offered an AWD e-series. You are very correct in that they all had anemic power by today's standards. But today's standards are getting to the point of silliness imho.
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Old 11-09-2018, 04:18 PM   #21
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Still miss my XT6.
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Old 11-09-2018, 04:30 PM   #22
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I still miss my 86 GL turbo wagon, but not as much as I did my two 2.5RS’ - which is why I went out and found me one. Not ever looking for another sub 98 Subaru, let alone a sub 90s Subaru. Nope.
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Old 11-09-2018, 04:46 PM   #23
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How can you not like a 3 door hatchback that came stock with a front bush guard, off road tires, and a lift kit. Heck, it even did well off road.

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How many AWD cars were available in 1988, despite to power?

And what was the HP of those?

Got to look at it relatively.
I'll take my '88 Justy with it's slightly less HP but smaller footprint and go have fun with it's 4WD.
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Old 11-10-2018, 08:53 AM   #25
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I don't begrudge them their success. I totally understand taking the emphasis off of performance in order to sell tons of boring mommy mobiles and it's paid off for them handsomely.
has it though? i think i read Subaru posted a significant loss this past quarter. remember, volume does not equal profit. steal underpants however....
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