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Old 02-23-2018, 02:18 PM   #376
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Drag. My experience with Opiates was the immediate need to hurl, and no net effect on the pain it was prescribed for.
Got any ginger in ya? People with red hair have been proven to be resistant to pain meds.
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Old 02-23-2018, 03:26 PM   #377
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Got any ginger in ya? People with red hair have been proven to be resistant to pain meds.
Not as far as I know. I ended up taking advil like it was my job for a month after having this surgery.

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Old 02-23-2018, 05:03 PM   #378
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Latest number for Opioid overdose deaths in Massachusetts: six per day.
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Old 02-23-2018, 05:20 PM   #379
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Got any ginger in ya? People with red hair have been proven to be resistant to pain meds.
True, but oddly they are sensitive to opiates and need smaller a dosage than "normal."
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Old 02-23-2018, 06:47 PM   #380
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Latest number for Opioid overdose deaths in Massachusetts: six per day.
Yet the FDA is trying so ****ing hard to make 44 kratom "related" deaths since 2011 sound like the biggest epidemic in our country's history.
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Old 02-24-2018, 03:23 AM   #381
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So here's how politics work, yesterday the bill we've worked hard on worded to "shall" refer meaning pain pts have to be referred for alternative care other than opioids. That got amended in the 2nd reading to "shall recommend" which means nothing changes, prescribing continues. The person who passed this amendment...a prescribing medical doc from the county that is literally the epicenter of the opioid crisis in the entire country. Yeah for big pharma, hospitals, and the continued drug epidemic!
As an experiment give money and see if outcome changes. Probly not, however, because there's no way you can match what pharma is giving. That's more how politics works.
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Old 03-08-2018, 11:56 AM   #382
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Passed the House 97-1. Medical doctor delegate spoke to highly urge the passage.

Back to the Senate to battle!
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Old 03-08-2018, 11:59 AM   #383
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Passed the House 97-1. Medical doctor delegate spoke to highly urge the passage.

Back to the Senate to battle!
Thank you.
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Old 03-08-2018, 12:46 PM   #384
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Here's a summary of the bill ( I think.)

EDIT: I didn't see that the BacDoc bill is a WV bill, not US.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...house-bill/993

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Opioid Abuse Prevention and Treatment Act of 2017

This bill requires the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to award grants to states to develop a peer review process to identify and investigate questionable or inappropriate prescribing and dispensing patterns of drugs classified as schedule II or III under the Controlled Substances Act, which are drugs with an accepted medical use that have the potential to be abused and addictive.

This bill amends the Public Health Service Act to require HHS to establish grant programs to: (1) facilitate training to increase the capacity of health care providers to screen and treat patients to prevent drug abuse, and (2) develop continuing education criteria that allow health profession boards or state agencies to certify appropriate education for safe prescribing of schedule II or III drugs. The Health Resources and Services Administration must award grants to evaluate the prospect of state health professions boards expanding the authority of providers to prescribe drugs to treat drug abuse.

The Drug Enforcement Administration must request that practitioners registered to dispense controlled substances screen patients for potential drug abuse before prescribing a schedule II or III drug.

The Food and Drug Administration must consider whether naloxone (a prescription drug used to rapidly reverse an overdose of heroin or other opioids, which are drugs with effects similar to opium) should be available without a prescription.

HHS must convene or coordinate with an interagency working group to encourage states and local governments to increase opportunities for disposal of opiates (drugs derived from opium) and to reduce opportunities for abuse of opiates.

The Government Accountability Office must review federal opioid abuse activities and make recommendations to reduce opioid abuse and overdoses.

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Old 03-08-2018, 01:02 PM   #385
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No that's the one from 2017.

Here's the new one SB273: http://www.wvlegislature.gov/Bill_St...sessiontype=RS
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Old 03-08-2018, 06:12 PM   #386
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Passed the House 97-1. Medical doctor delegate spoke to highly urge the passage.

Back to the Senate to battle!
BacDoc, I'm very new to Charleston, WV. I've been keeping up with the opioid problem in this state. The only reason I became interested is because I moved here in November 2017 from the state of Alabama (BDSM Crew founding member ). Watching what happened there, and still happening, and being the on the receiving end of the crime that the abuse breeds, I'm really interested in what will happen with this bill. Keeping a watch on it.
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No that's the one from 2017.

Here's the new one SB273: http://www.wvlegislature.gov/Bill_St...sessiontype=RS
What are the chances that the 2017 bill lead to the WV one, funding wise?
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I like Subarus...
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Old 03-08-2018, 10:24 PM   #389
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Please get off the opioids, itíll kill you and do nothing for your post count either.
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Old 03-08-2018, 11:00 PM   #390
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What are the chances that the 2017 bill lead to the WV one, funding wise?
I'm not sure. I don't think anything at the state level got passed. Funding for rehab and services is coming via tax on medications sold IIRC. I think there was a push for $.10 tax on every mg sold in the state.
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BacDoc, I'm very new to Charleston, WV. I've been keeping up with the opioid problem in this state. The only reason I became interested is because I moved here in November 2017 from the state of Alabama (BDSM Crew founding member ). Watching what happened there, and still happening, and being the on the receiving end of the crime that the abuse breeds, I'm really interested in what will happen with this bill. Keeping a watch on it.
Charleston is crime ridden for other reasons. Huntington is the opioid capital of the country right now. What part of Alamaba and what brings you here?
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Old 03-09-2018, 07:40 AM   #392
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Charleston is crime ridden for other reasons. Huntington is the opioid capital of the country right now. What part of Alamaba and what brings you here?
Huntington is pretty much off it's rocker right now. I'm up as a mainframe contractor for a local company. How long before Senate votes? Oh... And from Birmingham/Hoover AL
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Huntington is pretty much off it's rocker right now. I'm up as a mainframe contractor for a local company. How long before Senate votes? Oh... And from Birmingham/Hoover AL
Huntington is where I went to school. You couldn't pay me to be down there now, much less send my kids to Marshall. Bill went back to the Senate yesterday so chances are its in the works now. I'll update as soon as I hear.

My BIL went to school at UAB, was there a couple times visiting. Partied on some rooftop bar after his wedding, cool little town.

And if you're ever interested in car meet, track days, ... hit me up we have a couple FB groups for meets and racing.
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Our bill passed with our amended language 33-0!!!!!
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Our bill passed with our amended language 33-0!!!!!
33-0 is saying something right there! Congrats!!
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Old 03-10-2018, 05:21 PM   #396
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Latest number for Opioid overdose deaths in Massachusetts: six per day.

IIRC, it is now the leading cause of death in adults under 50.
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33-0 is saying something right there! Congrats!!
Thanks. Hope to be at the signing.
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IIRC, it is now the leading cause of death in adults under 50.
2017 stats for WV just came out, down to 872 deaths last year.
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Huntington is where I went to school. You couldn't pay me to be down there now, much less send my kids to Marshall.
My buddy went to Marshall and stayed in Huntington a few years after. He moved last year to the RVA area because he was just so tired of the **** going on in Huntington.
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My buddy went to Marshall and stayed in Huntington a few years after. He moved last year to the RVA area because he was just so tired of the **** going on in Huntington.
Its a hot mess down there. Detroit drug gangs ruined a great small college town. We'll be moving south in a few years in search of better college locations.
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Its a hot mess down there. Detroit drug gangs ruined a great small college town. We'll be moving south in a few years in search of better college locations.
Detroit has been moving **** from New Castle, PA along the I80 and I79 corridor for awhile. I ran a restaurant there in Ď96 and all the little hood rats were dating Detroit boys. Heroin hadnít exploded yet, but pills were starting to and crack was still the life destroyer of choice. They were in Beaver Falls regularly running dope when I left in November. Those 2 towns are close, Huntington isnít really. I opened a restaurant in Charleston for the company I worked for in 2000 and pills were booming. Had several employees end up dead, not from overdose but from the drug trade. It was a dangerous place under the surface, and with all the shelter in place sirens from the chemical leaks on the surface too. Couldnít pay me to go back there, although the Jeeping was and still is great. Hatfield McCoy network FTW.
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