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Old 11-09-2011, 01:17 PM   #26
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Well it has been a year since I last posted here but I am very excited!

Just placed my order with Rackattack.com!!!

I have a 2004 STi, and ended up going with:

Whispbar S5 Base Rack (I wanted flush mount)
Whispbar Fit Kit 323 (for the install)
Thule 92725 Universal Flat Top 6 (to carry up to 4 boards or 2 boards and some skis)

Will post pictures once installed!
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Old 11-11-2011, 07:50 PM   #27
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Installing right now.

Started with a 3/32" bit to get my holes exactly where I want them.
Moved onto the 5mm bit to get the holes big enough to use the M6 tap.
Tapping the holes to accept M6 thread.

Edit: Well, having never tapped any hole before, I am an idiot. I completely shattered the tap about halfway into the first bracket; and I was doing it slowly by hand. Went back to the screw store, got another one, and this time inquired a bit further and got some cutting oil fluid. Did em all in the parking lot of the store (in the rain even, lol) just to make sure I wasn't going to newb it up again. They all went smooth.

Cut the M6 all-thread into 50mm pieces.
Put them in the tapped holes, screwed the thin jam nut down on top of the bracket; tightened. Feels very secure.

Cutting the holes in the weather strip / rain gutter pieces ended up being a nightmare. I guess I am just not good at some things, lol. It took awhile to get right and my holes ended up being terrible abberations, lol. In winter it won't be seen since the whispbar tower covers it, but rather than worry about finding plugs or trying to make it look good next summer I will probably end up ordering another set of rain gutter trim pieces.

So now I am to the point where I mount the whispbar towers and I just got the front installed and tightened down. I got the S5 kit on recommendation of one of rackattack's employees who also owns a 2004 STi and took some measurements for me. UNFORTUNATELY, the back bar does NOT FIT. It is too long. The ends of the whispbar are adjustable, and I have them both as compact as they can go. So basically if anyone wants to get the flush setup I would go with one size down from the S5 kit. Anyways, I don't think I will send it back, I will just modify the cap piece to work. Since everything else has been custom, might as well customize this, too.

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Old 11-13-2011, 05:42 PM   #28
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So I customized the rear whispbar towers clips by elongating the slot hole with my dremel. This gave enough room to meet my M6 bolts sticking up from the rain gutter brackets.

It looks awesome, will post a pic soon. Glad I found this thread!
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Old 12-06-2011, 05:59 AM   #29
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Waiting for pic!
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Old 04-18-2012, 02:37 AM   #30
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Thread necro.

I've also installed my whispbars with krazy's beefed up brackets.





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Old 04-22-2012, 09:18 PM   #31
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Thread necro.

I've also installed my whispbars with krazy's beefed up brackets.
Forgot to ask, but slightly off topic, how do you like the Maverick SC32 fork?
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Old 05-13-2012, 04:10 AM   #32
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Installed!! (Whispbar HD)

This thread and a couple others really helped me out, thanks dasnowman!
Also this thread... (thanks jsavage)
this thread... (thanks maverickar15)
and this thead (thanks krazy)

Just a couple of install notes to make things easier when it comes to drilling the holes in the rain gutter.

I used Krazy's custom made brackets to mount the rack. The rack itself is fairly heavy (being the HD version) plus 3 fairly heavy bike carriers, plus 3 bikes, I didn't want to take any chances of tapping the stock brackets. It probably would hold, especially if you reinforce with a nut under/over but I feel much better about having them mounted on these.

It feels ridiculously solid!



On to cutting the holes in the rain gutter. I noticed a lot of people's responses were that they were way off and had to redrill and had oval holes so I thought about it to figure the best way to measure where to drill.


Once the brackets were in place, I put a piece of painters tape on the roof, along with a ruler. I centered an inch mark right over the hole, and then marked 1" away from the center on each side of the rain gutter.

measuring:


marks 1" above and below:


Then I cut away the tape in the middle and reinstalled the rain gutter temporarily to drill. I simply put the ruler back on, and marked the spot 1" from each mark on the tape, heated a nail with a lighter and put a tiny starter mark. *I drilled it out first with a really small bit to get a precise pilot hole started, and then drilled again with 1/4" bit.



As you can see, it worked out nicely... on the money!!






Just another couple of notes before I post installed pics;

I put a very small piece of rubber in the bottom of the hole of the bracket. That way I could thread the grub screw that cueballsi posted—and by the way, thanks for the part numbers from mcmaster... made it very easy to go to their site, find them and order—and when they screws bottomed out on the piece of rubber, it kind of spread out and wedged in there, holding it very firmly.

I ended up ordering the jam nuts to go on the grub screw under the rain gutter trim but not using them. A couple of reasons for that.

1. If I wanted to remove the rack for some reason, I am able to just take out the grub screws without having to remove the trim. All I have to do is put 1/4" black plug in the holes and you'll barely notice.

2. (and probably more importantly) You'll notice that the grub screws aren't completely vertical after installing. The front one is at a slight angle forward and the rear one is at a slight angle rearward.

They look like this: \___/ Which means that the distance between the screws at the top is further than the distance at the bottom, where the holes are drilled for.

My holes in the rain gutter were so precise that I couldn't put the gutter trim back on with all 4 posts in place. I ended up having to remove the rear two, install the rain gutter and then thread them back after the trim was in place.

That's about all I can add to the already well documented install from everyone else, but hopefully that will help someone.

Installed pics coming up soon!
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Old 05-13-2012, 04:29 AM   #33
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And a couple pics of the finished product:

BTW - The setup consists of:

Yakima Whispbar HD T16
Yakima 323 Fit Kit
Yakima Front Loader x3
Rain gutter bracket by krazy
M6 1.0 50mm grub screws











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Old 01-16-2013, 01:54 AM   #34
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Installed!! (Whispbar HD)

1. If I wanted to remove the rack for some reason, I am able to just take out the grub screws without having to remove the trim. All I have to do is put 1/4" black plug in the holes and you'll barely notice.

That's about all I can add to the already well documented install from everyone else, but hopefully that will help someone.

Installed pics coming up soon!
Great info man. Your solution is great and the fact that you can remove the grub screws and use 1/4" plugs for the OEM look is tremendous.

So the final shopping list is:
Whispair (do you order by size? what size to get? Any chance there is a flush mount kit that lines up perfectly?)
Krazy Klip
Grub screws (length you would recommend?)

That's it? With the whispair there aren't car specific towers or anything required?

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Old 01-16-2013, 02:01 AM   #35
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Great info man. Your solution is great and the fact that you can remove the grub screws and use 1/4" plugs for the OEM look is tremendous.

So the final shopping list is:
Whispair (do you order by size? what size to get? Any chance there is a flush mount kit that lines up perfectly?)
Krazy Klip
Grub screws (length you would recommend?)

That's it? With the whispair there aren't car specific towers or anything required?
(from above... probably got lost in the pics)

Yakima Whispbar HD T16 (or you can do the s16 if you don't want the Heavy duty)
Yakima 323 Fit Kit *this is the car specific kit for our cars
Yakima Front Loader x3
Rain gutter bracket by krazy
M6 1.0 50mm grub screws

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Old 01-16-2013, 02:06 AM   #36
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Yea I looked for it, but maybe I wasn't diligent enough. Anyway thanks for the info. Expensive stuff that whispbar. Wondering what other cars it fits so I can intelligently scout for used ones.
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:28 AM   #37
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Yea I looked for it, but maybe I wasn't diligent enough. Anyway thanks for the info. Expensive stuff that whispbar. Wondering what other cars it fits so I can intelligently scout for used ones.

You can put the same T16/S16 on almost any car, you just need to change the "fit kit", in this case 323 (around $30 per pair x 2 pairs)
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:16 PM   #38
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Is there any special reason to use tap the bracket and use grub screws as opposed to just taking the bracket off and using a bolt from the bottom up? Besides the nuisance of having to take you're whole ceiling apart to get the bracket off...
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:30 PM   #39
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Is there any special reason to use tap the bracket and use grub screws as opposed to just taking the bracket off and using a bolt from the bottom up? Besides the nuisance of having to take you're whole ceiling apart to get the bracket off...
You would have to plug up one of the 2 existing holes in the roof then. Also securing to the roof at 4 locations, versus 8 locations, the latter is going to win majority of the time.
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What do you guys do when you want you take the rack off?
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:30 PM   #42
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What do you guys do when you want you take the rack off?
On my set up, I leave my landing pads on the roof and use the stock covers they came with. For those with the grub screws I'd imagine they could just unscrew them.
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Old 05-07-2013, 02:11 AM   #43
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I just ordered my brackets (and got them! Thanks Krazy!) and plan to do the install soon. For the grub screw guys, what did you use to plug the holes if you removed the rack?

I am debating buying the whispbars since they seem nicer but I want to know what everyone did about the holes before I begin.

Also, does anyone know if 08+ trim with the doors fits on the 06-07?

Thanks
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I haven't seen these in person, but why do they use 'studs' instead of normal bolts from the top? Just figured using regular bolts would be easier to remove and replace if you don't want the studs sticking up...
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Old 07-12-2014, 01:44 PM   #45
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Wanted to post up thanks for the good information on this thread. I just installed a S4 flush Whispbar on my '05 STi yesterday. I diverged from the direction slightly by using a cap head screw rather than the long set screws and I wasn't able to find the set screws locally and didn't want to wait for a shipment. I ended up getting a few stainless cap head screws in different lengths, 40,45,50mm and some stainless washers. The fastener threads through the tapped hole for several threads, so it's as strong as the set screw. I ended up using the 45mm screws. Getting them lined up was a little tricky, so make sure you drill the hole in the rain gutter right!

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Old 07-18-2014, 02:30 PM   #46
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If anyone is interested, I am selling my setup (post 26, 27, 28 in this thread).

Here is a picture:



I am looking for someone that is interested in the rack setup and is willing to trade rain gutter guards with me, since mine had to be drilled through for the stud that the whispbar base mounts to. My setup is the S5 Flush mount.

I can't seem to find anyone local that is interested in what is arguably the best looking roof rack for the GD chassis. So, we will probably have to box and ship our rain gutter guards to each other. I was looking for ~$300 for it; it cost over $400 from rackattack.
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Old 07-01-2015, 11:14 AM   #47
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Ran into a couple problems putting my Whispbar S16 with K323 together.

Got mine used from someone with a Infiniti/Volvo & the large landing pads. Anyone have an idea on the kit/PN to get the smaller landing pads? Talked with Yakima and they apparently only come with the fit kit.

Note: Yakima said the S15 was correct for GD (04 WRX STi Sedan) but all the rack websites I checked were S16 at the time. The only difference in width so I would guess the S15 width would be closer inline with the roof.

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