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Old 10-01-2019, 08:50 AM   #1526
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I bet every time the user interrupts the smart summon it sends a bunch of data to Tesla so that they can train the neural network better.
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Old 10-01-2019, 09:21 AM   #1527
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Don't stress over other people's decisions, you'll live longer . "Yesterday I was clever, so I wanted to change the world. Today I am wise, so I am changing myself." -Rumi

Juanmedina, I know on Subarus I would never run staggered wheels but seems some are doing it on the model 3. Is it because they're not the AWD version? Would it be stupid to run staggered on my awd model 3?
Tesla sells the Model S/X with staggered wheels. No issue with AWD as there's no center differential to be confused by different size tires f/r, and the software can handle it.
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Old 10-02-2019, 08:22 AM   #1528
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I live in the DC metro area and Teslaís are as common as Camaryís here. I NEVER see them with wheels on them and for the life of me I canít figure out why. Tesla has one thing to figure out and they canít seem to do it. Exterior options. Starting with some of the most horrific wheels ever put on production vehicles. But then the owners never do it. Iím befuddled.
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Old 10-02-2019, 08:55 AM   #1529
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I live in the DC metro area and Teslaís are as common as Camaryís here. I NEVER see them with wheels on them and for the life of me I canít figure out why. Tesla has one thing to figure out and they canít seem to do it. Exterior options. Starting with some of the most horrific wheels ever put on production vehicles. But then the owners never do it. Iím befuddled.
You must be referring to the 18 inch Model 3 wheels with the aero covers. They're ugly. You can remove the covers. You lose something like 5 or 10 miles of range.


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Old 10-02-2019, 09:04 AM   #1530
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I live in the DC metro area and Tesla’s are as common as Camary’s here. I NEVER see them with wheels on them and for the life of me I can’t figure out why. Tesla has one thing to figure out and they can’t seem to do it. Exterior options. Starting with some of the most horrific wheels ever put on production vehicles. But then the owners never do it. I’m befuddled.
The covers give extra range. There are companies that specialize in Tesla wheels, and plenty of generic brands that fit also (5x114.3, sounds familiar). If you check out Tesla forums or Instagram you will see tuners. It's like Subaru, the average buyer doesn't modify, but the enthusiasts do.

In terms of the Aero covers, I actually like them. They are a nice dark gray color. I have the kit to remove them and make the spokes/lugs look good...but, I don't use it. I like the covers.

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Old 10-02-2019, 09:05 AM   #1531
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The first thing I did when I got my Model 3 was take off the ugly aero covers as soon as I got the delete kit from Tesla (puts the logo thing in the center of the hub).

10 miles of range is not worth such heinousness. They look so bad it's embarrassing.
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Old 10-02-2019, 09:49 AM   #1532
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I don't think the covers are that bad either, although I'd probably take them off and only put them on for highway trips.
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Old 10-02-2019, 09:50 AM   #1533
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I told myself I wouldn't spend a single penny on modifications for the Tesla but human nature makes me want to be an idiot and lose money like I've done with every Subaru I've ever owned lol

Wheels, springs, and deleting the chrome stuff with a black wrap have been on my mind a lot.
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Old 10-02-2019, 09:56 AM   #1534
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Its cool to see mods for these cars. I mean to allow people to customize them to make them their own is fun. Nothing wrong with that.
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Old 10-02-2019, 10:12 AM   #1535
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What's more embarrassing than putting aftermarket rims on a POS car? Driving a Tesla. Aftermarket rims on a Tesla? Brawndo is what sheep crave.
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Old 10-02-2019, 10:29 AM   #1536
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Its cool to see mods for these cars. I mean to allow people to customize them to make them their own is fun. Nothing wrong with that.
Here's a Tesla for sale on my local Craigslist with the aforementioned mods







20" gloss black turbine wheels (TSportline) [staggered wheels: front: 20"x8.5"; rear: 20"x10"]
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Old 10-02-2019, 10:39 AM   #1537
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What's more embarrassing than putting aftermarket rims on a POS car? Driving a Tesla. Aftermarket rims on a Tesla? Brawndo is what sheep crave.
Good to know that you don't limit the insults to Musk and his business tactics, even though you stated that earlier in this thread.
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Old 10-02-2019, 10:41 AM   #1538
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What's more embarrassing than putting aftermarket rims on a POS car? Driving a Tesla. Aftermarket rims on a Tesla? Brawndo is what sheep crave.
Tis not for us to declare who can and cannot mod a vehicle. I have never seen a stock looking Chrysler 300, as they all have 22" chrome wheels. I do not have to get it, but I would defend their right to do it.

Just say'n
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Old 10-02-2019, 10:51 AM   #1539
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Tis not for us to declare who can and cannot mod a vehicle. I have never seen a stock looking Chrysler 300, as they all have 22" chrome wheels. I do not have to get it, but I would defend their right to do it.

Just say'n
If you live in a $10M house but choose to have a Chrysler 300 with 22" rims, then you are awesome and I agree. But if you have a crap house or pay rent, car payments, etc. and waste money on that, you are an idiot, and contribute to societal inefficiency, which costs us all. Applies to everything.
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Old 10-02-2019, 10:52 AM   #1540
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Don't acknowledge E. Nick's existence. He clearly hates something about himself and just projects it onto internet forums instead of dealing with his issues. I mean, he has to have a super high IQ to be here over 18 years and still calling wheels "rims"
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Old 10-02-2019, 10:56 AM   #1541
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I want spinnaz to come back. Somebody but 22 inch rims with spinnaz on their Tesla.

It's only a matter of time before you get some kind of cheap (2013 era) Model S donk rolling around.
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Old 10-02-2019, 11:06 AM   #1542
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If you live in a $10M house but choose to have a Chrysler 300 with 22" rims, then you are awesome and I agree. But if you have a crap house or pay rent, car payments, etc. and waste money on that, you are an idiot, and contribute to societal inefficiency, which costs us all. Applies to everything.


Iíve modded every car I own despite my financial status. Whether that agrees with my budget or not is irrelevant. Improving the performance or aesthetic of my vehicles is part of an ingrained trait that I, and many others share. Some do it for vanity, others like myself like to think we are improving on what the manufacturer produced. And again, for many, this doesnít apply just to our cars either. My home is another place where I focus my efforts on upgrades.

So whatís your problem with my preferences ?
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Old 10-02-2019, 11:11 AM   #1543
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If you live in a $10M house but choose to have a Chrysler 300 with 22" rims, then you are awesome and I agree. But if you have a crap house or pay rent, car payments, etc. and waste money on that, you are an idiot, and contribute to societal inefficiency, which costs us all. Applies to everything.
Good to know that houses under $10M are crap
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Old 10-02-2019, 11:18 AM   #1544
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Don't acknowledge E. Nick's existence. He clearly hates something about himself and just projects it onto internet forums instead of dealing with his issues. I mean, he has to have a super high IQ to be here over 18 years and still calling wheels "rims"
nope, I do no agree with you on this. I like E Nicks posts and his sense of humor. Maybe you do not get it. But I have known him long enough to know he has valuable insight. You can learn from anybody, even those you disagree with. I would have stopped listening to Pre years ago if what you say is true, but every now and then a valuable nugget is found in his posts. (he could say the same about me I am quite sure, and I am fine with that)

If you only surround yourself with people who think just like you, then your own world becomes small, and one day you will step outside of your bubble and realize you are alone and the world has moved on.

Bottom line is you do not have to 'get it' to get along. Civil discourse has degenerated into 5th grade Sith Mentality... 'you are either with me or against me'.

I do not have to agree with Juanmedina, or Godfather, or Shik, or SVT, or mhoward1 all the time, but I respect all of them tremendously. It is okay to disagree on cars. This is a hobby and nothing else. There is room for all of us. Disagreement allows other points of view to be heard. That means if I have to live through Pre calling me a Luddite, then I am fine with that. If the internet hurts your feelings, you are doing it wrong.

I'm done.
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Old 10-02-2019, 11:21 AM   #1545
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I want spinnaz to come back. Somebody but 22 inch rims with spinnaz on their Tesla.

It's only a matter of time before you get some kind of cheap (2013 era) Model S donk rolling around.
newdonk is 28's with self leveling center caps; it's a strange world... but hey man, if it makes your pants tight, and is within the confines of the law, have at it.
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Old 10-02-2019, 11:38 AM   #1546
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So whatís your problem with my preferences ?
I want you to drive a Mclaren 720S - or whatever your dream car may be. Pressuring you (collective) to make decisions that would increase the chances of that can only better you - whether it ends up being a Mclaren or instead is simply a fat college fund for your kids. It used to be that societal pressures were a great motivating factor - now the motivation is for self-actualization or some other BS at the top of Maslow, when many haven't gotten safety, security, food, etc. figured out. - and ironically, that self-actualization plea, is generally made while trying to sell you something, like buying a car to save the world.
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Old 10-02-2019, 12:07 PM   #1547
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nope, I do no agree with you on this. I like E Nicks posts and his sense of humor. Maybe you do not get it. But I have known him long enough to know he has valuable insight. You can learn from anybody, even those you disagree with. I would have stopped listening to Pre years ago if what you say is true, but every now and then a valuable nugget is found in his posts. (he could say the same about me I am quite sure, and I am fine with that)

If you only surround yourself with people who think just like you, then your own world becomes small, and one day you will step outside of your bubble and realize you are alone and the world has moved on.

Bottom line is you do not have to 'get it' to get along. Civil discourse has degenerated into 5th grade Sith Mentality... 'you are either with me or against me'.

I do not have to agree with Juanmedina, or Godfather, or Shik, or SVT, or mhoward1 all the time, but I respect all of them tremendously. It is okay to disagree on cars. This is a hobby and nothing else. There is room for all of us. Disagreement allows other points of view to be heard. That means if I have to live through Pre calling me a Luddite, then I am fine with that. If the internet hurts your feelings, you are doing it wrong.

I'm done.
You are def encouraged to like whoever you like , I wouldn't want it any other way .

“If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself. What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us”. -Herman Hesse

Everything Nick is complaining about in other people is just something he hates about himself. Psychology 101

More power to him, i find it amusing how easily he's trolling everyone in here with his opinion on "rims" .
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Old 10-02-2019, 12:38 PM   #1548
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You are def encouraged to like whoever you like , I wouldn't want it any other way .

“If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself. What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us”. -Herman Hesse

Everything Nick is complaining about in other people is just something he hates about himself. Psychology 101

More power to him, i find it amusing how easily he's trolling everyone in here with his opinion on "rims" .
Can we flip your psychology on it's head? You hate his responses because deep down you have an inner Nick?

He didn't start the discussion about "rims", just responded to it. And he's right. Consumerism is alive and well. And at the end of the day, I don't think that's good or bad, but it is what it is, and people need to acknowledge it in themselves. I disagree that everyone needs to fight consumerism in every aspect of their life, but they need to manage it and keep it from taking over their life.

The way I see it, the ven diagram of people who buy aftermarket "rims" and those who could reasonably afford a Tesla likely doesn't have a lot of overlap... and I think that's what Nick is getting at... at least that's what I'm interpreting...
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Can we flip your psychology on it's head? You hate his responses because deep down you have an inner Nick?

He didn't start the discussion about "rims", just responded to it. And he's right. Consumerism is alive and well. And at the end of the day, I don't think that's good or bad, but it is what it is, and people need to acknowledge it in themselves. I disagree that everyone needs to fight consumerism in every aspect of their life, but they need to manage it and keep it from taking over their life.

The way I see it, the ven diagram of people who buy aftermarket "rims" and those who could reasonably afford a Tesla likely doesn't have a lot of overlap... and I think that's what Nick is getting at... at least that's what I'm interpreting...
I didn't hate on his responses. I didn't start defending people's choice to buy/drive Tesla or to modify them.

This is a thread about Tesla's and not a thread about Nick's opinion on economy and society. If people would rather talk about Nick and his opinions that's cool, I find myself in the incorrect thread
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Hey guys, can we get back to hating on teslas vs hating on each other? Thanks.

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