Formula 1 2024

[MrH]

Nothing like a rainstorm at Interlagos.
Can Alpine hold on. They can get a massive points haul,

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[340Duster]

Not a good weekend for Williams already.

[hi5.0]

So far this race, NOR's performance is cake on his face. Will look forward to the post race analyses and meltdowns on various social media.

[MrH]

Mad Max comes from 17th and blows away everyone in a:
rain soaked
crash infested
spinoff
red flag
race.

Probably the first and last time seeing Alpine in a double podium.

[ajsti24]

Originally Posted by MrH

Mad Max comes from 17th and blows away everyone in a:
rain soaked
crash infested
spinoff
red flag
race.

Probably the first and last time seeing Alpine in a double podium.

Yup, master class wet driving from Max!

[MrH]

Result of the Lenovo Grande Premio de Sao Paulo.

Pos Driver Team Laps Gap
1 Verstappen Red Bull 69 2h 06:54.430
2 Ocon Alpine 69 + 0:19.477
3 Gasly Alpine 69 + 0:22.532
4 Russell Mercedes 69 + 0:23.265
5 Leclerc Ferrari 69 + 0:30.177
6 Norris McLaren 69 + 0:31.372
7 Tsunoda RB 69 + 0:42.056
8 Piastri McLaren 69 + 0:44.943
9 Lawson RB 69 + 0:50.452
10 Hamilton Mercedes 69 + 0:50.753
11 Perez Red Bull 69 + 0:51.531
12 Bearman Haas 69 + 0:57.085
13 Bottas Stake 69 + 1:03.588
14 Alonso Aston Martin 69 + 1:18.049
15 Zhou Stake 69 + 1:19.649
Sainz Ferrari 38 Accident
Colapinto Williams 30 Accident
Albon Williams 0 Did Not Start
Stroll Aston Martin 0 Did Not Start
DQ Hulkenberg Haas Disqualified

Kudos to Gasley for 3rd from 15th
Tough day for Haas
Lewis can't wait for the season to end.
Alonso needs to retire

[Max Capacity]

Originally Posted by ajsti24

Yup, master class wet driving from Max!

Not like we haven't seen that before...at this same track.

[ajsti24]

Originally Posted by Max Capacity

Not like we haven't seen that before...at this same track.

Yes, same track 2016 GP

[MrH]

Maffei steps down as Liberty Media CEO.

This is the same person that is blocking Andretti from being on the grid.

I saw a report that Williams will miss the Las Vegas GP but I did see anyone else reporting this.

[GoFrogs]

Originally Posted by MrH

Maffei steps down as Liberty Media CEO.

This is the same person that is blocking Andretti from being on the grid.

I saw a report that Williams will miss the Las Vegas GP but I did see anyone else reporting this.

are 19 races too many? Car/mechanicals attrition is taking its toll. This season has more races than last year and IIRC, next year will add 1 or 2 more. Race count was going to be in the 20s.

[MrH]

Monaco signs new deal which runs to 2031.

[340Duster]

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[MrH]

American manufacturer GM is looking set to secure a place on the F1 grid amidst claims that Andretti will not be involved.

https://www.pitpass.com/79168/GM-loo...11th-team-slot

While almost all the teams had rejected Andretti's bid to enter the sport, there was clearly a personal agenda between Liberty CEO Greg Maffei and Michael Andretti.

A restructuring at Andretti Global which saw Dan Towriss take the reins of the American outfit suggested a possible easing of the hostilities, while the news that Maffei is to step down gave even more hope.

However, it appears that instead, Andretti's engine partner GM is to enter the sport without the American outfit.

Quite how it would work remains to be seen for GM would enter as a team in 2026 using customer engines until its own power units were available in 2028.

The teams had mainly objected to Andretti's entry on the grounds that it would reduce the pot in terms of the prize money, hence suggestions that the American outfit pay two or three times the going rate in order to secure an entry... yet even that was unacceptable.

The news that Andretti had partnered with GM changed things, but only to the extent that F1 and the teams made clear that while they wanted the American car giant onboard they remained at odds with the team.

The news comes as F1 is under investigation by US department of justice following its rejection of Andretti, despite the proposed bid getting the thumbs up from the FIA.

"If a team can add to the championship, particularly if GM decides to come in as a team owner, that is a different story," said Toto Wolff in Las Vegas. "And as long as it is creative, that means we're growing the popularity of the sport, we're growing the revenue of the sport, then no team will be ever against it.

"So I'm putting my hope in there," he continued. "No one from Andretti or Andretti global or whatever the name will be has ever spoken to me a single sentence in presentation of what the creative part is. But they don't need to because the teams don't decide. It is the commercial rights holder, with the FIA, we have no say. We can have an opinion, like I'm having here now, it's just if i want to be invited to a party and going to the party, I'm sitting down on the table and telling who I am and why I'm really good fun and sitting here and everybody will enjoy my presence.

"That hasn't happened, but you know, that's now my personal point of view, not a professional, because there's nothing we can do, nothing we can say. And I don't know the people.

"I've obviously spoken to Mario. Yeah, I've spoken to Mario once. I didn't speak to his son. I didn't speak to any other people that are behind that. I don't know who they are. So I know GM. GM is great."

"At the end of the day, I'm not sure that we have our word into the discussion," added Fred Vasseur. "The discussion is between FIA, the team, and FOM. It's not our choice.

"For sure, as Toto said, that if it's good for the sport, good for the show, good for the business, and add value on the sporting side, that we are all okay. But again, the decision is with FOM and not with Toto or myself."

Whatever the issue with Michael Andretti may have been, it would appear that the teams and F1 got their way.

[340Duster]

Wild.

[torquemada]

they come and they go.

I don´t see GM in the F1 in five years, but I also don´t see Audi there.

[MrH]

Another track, another wrecked Williams.

[hi5.0]

Alrighty then, did not expect an Alpine to be in the mix near the front of the grid for the race... and looking like COL is picking up where SAR left off in the "F1 World Destructor's Championship". Hope it SAI can limit the financial damage next year. Let's see if VER and NOR can keep it clean at the start.

[MrH]

Times from today's qualifying session for the Heineken Silver Las Vegas Grand Prix.

Pos Driver Team Time Gap
1 Russell Mercedes 1:32.312 150.269 mph
2 Sainz Ferrari 1:32.410 0.098
3 Gasly Alpine 1:32.664 0.352
4 Leclerc Ferrari 1:32.783 0.471
5 Verstappen Red Bull 1:32.797 0.485
6 Norris McLaren 1:33.008 0.696
7 Tsunoda RB 1:33.029 0.717
8 Piastri McLaren 1:33.033 0.721
9 Hulkenberg Haas 1:33.062 0.750
10 Hamilton Mercedes 1:48.106 15.794
11 Ocon Alpine 1:33.221
12 Magnussen Haas 1:33.297
13 Zhou Stake 1:33.566
14 Colapinto Williams 1:33.749
15 Lawson RB 1:34.257
16 Perez Red Bull 1:34.155
17 Alonso Aston Martin 1:34.258
18 Albon Williams 1:34.425
19 Bottas Stake 1:34.430
20 Stroll Aston Martin 1:34.484

[340Duster]

Start at this timestamp. I really want to hear what the haters have to say (not that I think they are in this group).
https://youtu.be/LOHtk-Vqh2w?si=INCpFmfA6mUCiKjM&t=825

[MrH]

Mercedes 1-2
Max wins his 4th WDC
1st time 7 drivers won at least 2 races in a season
1st time 4 teams won a 1-2 in a season

[340Duster]

I just want a plot of Checo vs Yuki in the end of the season races... Yet they stick to their guns.

[MrH]

Result of the Heineken Silver Las Vegas Grand Prix.

Pos Driver Team Laps Gap
1 Russell Mercedes 50 1h 22:05.969
2 Hamilton Mercedes 50 + 0:07.313
3 Sainz Ferrari 50 + 0:11.906
4 Leclerc Ferrari 50 + 0:14.283
5 Verstappen Red Bull 50 + 0:16.582
6 Norris McLaren 50 + 0:43.385
7 Piastri McLaren 50 + 0:51.365
8 Hulkenberg Haas 50 + 0:59.808
9 Tsunoda RB 50 + 1:02.808
10 Perez Red Bull 50 + 1:03.114
11 Alonso Aston Martin 50 + 1:09.195
12 Magnussen Haas 50 + 1:09.803
13 Zhou Stake 50 + 1:14.085
14 Colapinto Williams 50 + 1:15.172
15 Stroll Aston Martin 50 + 1:24.102
16 Lawson RB 50 + 1:31.005
17 Ocon Alpine 49 + 1 Lap
18 Bottas Stake 49 + 1 Lap
Albon Williams 25 Engine
Gasly Alpine 15 Engine

Why didn't Sianz get a penalty for that aborted pit entry ?

[torquemada]

Originally Posted by MrH

Why didn't Sianz get a penalty for that aborted pit entry ?

we have a theory here in Germany:


Pit entry:
it is forbidden to cross the line when ENTERING the pit entry
it is allowed to cross the line when LEAVING the pit entry


Pit exit:
it is forbidden to cross the line when you are leaving the pit
it is allowed to cross the line when driving on the track

[torquemada]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WZnOeHjtyE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WZnOeHjtyE

[MrH]

Formula 1 has reached an agreement in principle with General Motors to support bringing GM/Cadillac as the 11th team to the grid in 2026

https://www.pitpass.com/79212/GM-set...ter-F1-in-2026

Formula 1 has maintained a dialogue with General Motors, and its partners at TWG Global, regarding the viability of an entry following the commercial assessment and decision made in January 2024.

Over the course of this year, they have achieved operational milestones and made clear their commitment to brand the eleventh team GM/Cadillac, and that GM will enter as an engine supplier at a later time. Formula 1 is therefore pleased to move forward with this application process and will provide further updates in due course.

Cadillac would be the first new team to join F1 since 2016 and according to the company, innovations created for F1 will contribute to its push to drive the future of transportation, leveraging advanced electrification, powertrain, software, and internal combustion engine technology for consumers around the globe. Launching an F1 team will also highlight the Cadillac brand to a diverse international audience, showcasing GM's technology and design capabilities.

Since GM's bid to join F1 was announced in January 2023, Cadillac Formula 1 has assembled an experienced team to work on aerodynamics, chassis and component development, software, and vehicle dynamics simulation. The team has operations in Fishers, Indiana; Charlotte, North Carolina; Warren, Michigan and Silverstone.

GM has decades of racing success and a history of developing high-performance powertrains with over 3,000 wins and more than 100 driver and manufacturer motorsports championships.

In addition to the Cadillac F1 partnership with GM, TWG Global owns and operates Andretti Global, Wayne Taylor Racing, and Spire Motorsports.

"With Formula 1's continued growth plans in the US, we have always believed that welcoming an impressive US brand like GM/Cadillac to the grid and GM as a future power unit supplier could bring additional value and interest to the sport," said Greg Maffei.

"We credit the leadership of General Motors and their partners with significant progress in their readiness to enter Formula 1. We are excited to move forward with the application process for the GM/Cadillac team to enter the Championship in 2026."

"General Motors and Cadillac's commitment to this project is an important and positive demonstration of the evolution of our sport," added Stefano Domenicali. "We look forward to seeing the progress and growth of this application, certain of the full collaboration and support of all the parties involved."

"General Motors is a huge global brand and powerhouse in the OEM world and is working with impressive partners," said Mohammed ben Sulayem. "I am fully supportive of the efforts made by the FIA, Formula 1, GM and the team to maintain dialogue and work towards this outcome of an agreement in principle to progress this application to bring a GM/Cadillac branded team on the grid for the 2026 FIA Formula One World Championship. All parties, including the FIA, will continue to work together to ensure the process progresses smoothly."

"As the pinnacle of motorsports, F1 demands boundary-pushing innovation and excellence," added Mark Reuss, President of General Motors. "It's an honour for General Motors and Cadillac to join the world's premier racing series, and we're committed to competing with passion and integrity to elevate the sport for race fans around the world. This is a global stage for us to demonstrate GM's engineering expertise and technology leadership at an entirely new level."

"We're excited to partner with General Motors in bringing a dynamic presence to Formula 1," said Dan Towriss, CEO of TWG Global's motorsport business. "Together, we're assembling a world-class team that will embody American innovation and deliver unforgettable moments to race fans around the world. We appreciate the FIA and FOM's support of our application and their recognition of the value we can bring to the championship."

Mario Andretti, the last American F1 Champion, will serve as a director on the team's board.

"My first love was Formula 1 and now - 70 years later - the F1 paddock is still my happy place," said the racing legend. "I'm absolutely thrilled with Cadillac, Formula 1, Mark Walter, and Dan Towriss," said Andretti. "To still be involved at this stage of my life — I have to pinch myself to make sure I'm not dreaming."

Andretti back door them to get in.