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Old 04-25-2014, 10:34 PM   #26
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I've got an idea....if you don't like a thread don't read it. Ironically enough your b****ing is just adding to this thread. It's like saying, man this burger tastes horrible and then still eating it. Get over yourself people, it's a forum for talking about things. It's not like a tree dies everytime someone makes a new post. It's digital...it can handle it!! Let people be excited about stuff, I think this site has too many trolls on it!!!

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Old 04-25-2014, 11:31 PM   #27
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Yikes.. Sorry I've seen a bunch of people trying to find out when Cobb would roll out stage 1 or 2...

Yes I'm pumped about that, and yeah I'm new to the forum. Didn't realize I'd ruffle feathers.. Lol
No feathers ruffled.

There is no doubt Cobb will support the new Car/Ecu. The fact the new owners need to WAIT is something else. The car has been sold for about a month, and we have hundreds of posts about aftermarket parts. Simply put, it won't happen that fast.

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By your logic is it news that subaru announces a new model year every year? We probably shouldn't ever make a new thread when 2016 models are released either
False.

By his logic we should wait until Cobb announces support and releases a tune. Otherwise it's all farting in the wind.
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Old 04-26-2014, 07:43 AM   #28
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By your logic is it news that subaru announces a new model year every year? We probably shouldn't ever make a new thread when 2016 models are released either
Except things actually change when new models come out. The 2015 was a new design, new engine, etc. actual new things.

Cobb releasing tuning? Yea... Nothing new there. Their stage 1/2 maps are the same every year. It was news when they announced flatfoot shifting and launch control back in 2005. It was news when the v3 came out. That they're supporting the new Subie model? Not news.
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Old 04-26-2014, 08:18 AM   #29
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Except things actually change when new models come out. The 2015 was a new design, new engine, etc. actual new things. Cobb releasing tuning? Yea... Nothing new there. Their stage 1/2 maps are the same every year. It was news when they announced flatfoot shifting and launch control back in 2005. It was news when the v3 came out. That they're supporting the new Subie model? Not news.
Haha. This guy! http://www.imgur.com/gallery/s39XMcf
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Old 04-26-2014, 01:27 PM   #30
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I've got an idea....if you don't like a thread don't read it. Ironically enough your b****ing is just adding to this thread. It's like saying, man this burger tastes horrible and then still eating it. Get over yourself people, it's a forum for talking about things. It's not like a tree dies everytime someone makes a new post. It's digital...it can handle it!! Let people be excited about stuff, I think this site has too many trolls on it!!!
You know what you are? An enabler who by defending the OP are indirectly contributing to the decline of this site usefulness. Crap threads like this just clutter this site making it increasingly more difficult for those members who actually want to find information. It's gotten to the point that the mods can't keep up and close threads fast enough. I was guilty of this myself until I actually read the stickies on the rules of this site.

The op created this thread when there is already an amazing thread by Gro Harlem where he could have posted this and contributing positively.

It's a redesign model year mostly everyone is excited, the new WRX & STI finally seem to address long standing issues members of previous year models have had. If the op is that excited he should figure out new ways to channel that excitement. Possibly stick his head out the window of a moving car and let his tongue frolic in the wind?
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Old 04-26-2014, 01:45 PM   #31
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You know what you are? An enabler who by defending the OP are indirectly contributing to the decline of this site usefulness. Crap threads like this just clutter this site making it increasingly more difficult for those members who actually want to find information. It's gotten to the point that the mods can't keep up and close threads fast enough. I was guilty of this myself until I actually read the stickies on the rules of this site. The op created this thread when there is already an amazing thread by Gro Harlem where he could have posted this and contributing positively. It's a redesign model year mostly everyone is excited, the new WRX & STI finally seem to address long standing issues members of previous year models have had. If the op is that excited he should figure out new ways to channel that excitement. Possibly stick his head out the window of a moving car and let his tongue frolic in the wind?
LOL this is awesome. You must be a lonely little man. You mad bro?
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Old 04-26-2014, 02:43 PM   #32
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LOL this is awesome. You must be a lonely little man. You mad bro?
Learning how to properly use Internet forum will get you a long way here.

Acting like an idiot will get you nothing but flames.
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Old 04-27-2014, 12:12 PM   #33
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Hi all,

Thank you for your interest in our products. We have recently received our in-house 15 WRX for testing and development as well as a 15 STi. On the hard parts side, this means we can finally start looking at what existing parts fit and decide on what new hard parts we will need to develop. On the tuning side, this means we can finally start testing and working towards a release for the Accessport and the Accesstuner tuning software.

The 15 STi engine control unit (ECU) is basically the same hardware as the prior year with some calibration changes, so not a whole lot of mystery there. The calibration changes are more numerous than Subaru's typical year-to-year changes, so we do have to revisit our OTS calibrations to make sure we have the optimal tunes for this year. It is not known if every part of engine hardware is exactly identical to prior STi - that is something we have to determine as we create these new OTS maps (and see how the car responds).

The 15 WRX ECU is all new and significantly different than the prior WRX, obviously due to new motor w/ DI, etc. We are not starting from scratch here, though. We've already cracked the ECU prior to our car's arrival and have done a pretty thorough analysis of its engine code. That said, we have a lot of testing, verification, and additional development to do before an Accessport release becomes a reality (we are always very thorough to make sure we deliver the highest quality product we can).

The 14 FXT has been brought up before. We have also done a pretty thorough analysis of the engine code here as well. The issue with this car is that we have not decided if we are going to support it or not. The problem here is not that there's any obstacle that we have to overcome to tune this car, but whether or not the product will be successful enough to warrant the resources involved. Even after a product is released, there are resources involved in customer support, software/firmware updates, map updates, etc. that continue as long as we still offer the Accessport for that vehicle. So, while we haven't ruled it out, we haven't given it the go-ahead either.

As far as the BRZ, we decided awhile back that this wasn't the right product for us. Again, no obstacle here as far as cracking the ECU, but we did not believe there would be enough return on our investment to pursue support for that car. That doesn't mean that we won't change our minds in the future, but, currently, we do not have any plans to support a tuning solution for the BRZ.

Bill
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Old 04-27-2014, 12:14 PM   #34
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Old 04-27-2014, 12:20 PM   #35
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No new AP yet but they must have just updated the website: http://www.cobbtuning.com/Subaru-STI...15-s/70943.htm

"2015 STI Updates: COBB currently has a 2015 STI model in house for R&D testing! Our bad ass engineering team is working on Accesstuner Pro support, OTS maps, and complementary hard parts. Check back often for more news and releases!"
It gets worse every year.

I can't even what the 400k will be like.
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Old 04-27-2014, 05:07 PM   #36
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Hi all, Thank you for your interest in our products. We have recently received our in-house 15 WRX for testing and development as well as a 15 STi. On the hard parts side, this means we can finally start looking at what existing parts fit and decide on what new hard parts we will need to develop. On the tuning side, this means we can finally start testing and working towards a release for the Accessport and the Accesstuner tuning software. The 15 STi engine control unit (ECU) is basically the same hardware as the prior year with some calibration changes, so not a whole lot of mystery there. The calibration changes are more numerous than Subaru's typical year-to-year changes, so we do have to revisit our OTS calibrations to make sure we have the optimal tunes for this year. It is not known if every part of engine hardware is exactly identical to prior STi - that is something we have to determine as we create these new OTS maps (and see how the car responds). The 15 WRX ECU is all new and significantly different than the prior WRX, obviously due to new motor w/ DI, etc. We are not starting from scratch here, though. We've already cracked the ECU prior to our car's arrival and have done a pretty thorough analysis of its engine code. That said, we have a lot of testing, verification, and additional development to do before an Accessport release becomes a reality (we are always very thorough to make sure we deliver the highest quality product we can). The 14 FXT has been brought up before. We have also done a pretty thorough analysis of the engine code here as well. The issue with this car is that we have not decided if we are going to support it or not. The problem here is not that there's any obstacle that we have to overcome to tune this car, but whether or not the product will be successful enough to warrant the resources involved. Even after a product is released, there are resources involved in customer support, software/firmware updates, map updates, etc. that continue as long as we still offer the Accessport for that vehicle. So, while we haven't ruled it out, we haven't given it the go-ahead either. As far as the BRZ, we decided awhile back that this wasn't the right product for us. Again, no obstacle here as far as cracking the ECU, but we did not believe there would be enough return on our investment to pursue support for that car. That doesn't mean that we won't change our minds in the future, but, currently, we do not have any plans to support a tuning solution for the BRZ. Bill
Thanks Bill. Im excited to see what kind of numbers you guys pull when you get ready to release stage 1/2 !
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Old 04-27-2014, 05:53 PM   #37
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thanks cobb tuning for posting!
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Old 04-28-2014, 07:19 PM   #38
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Hi all,

Thank you for your interest in our products. We have recently received our in-house 15 WRX for testing and development as well as a 15 STi. On the hard parts side, this means we can finally start looking at what existing parts fit and decide on what new hard parts we will need to develop. On the tuning side, this means we can finally start testing and working towards a release for the Accessport and the Accesstuner tuning software.

The 15 STi engine control unit (ECU) is basically the same hardware as the prior year with some calibration changes, so not a whole lot of mystery there. The calibration changes are more numerous than Subaru's typical year-to-year changes, so we do have to revisit our OTS calibrations to make sure we have the optimal tunes for this year. It is not known if every part of engine hardware is exactly identical to prior STi - that is something we have to determine as we create these new OTS maps (and see how the car responds).

The 15 WRX ECU is all new and significantly different than the prior WRX, obviously due to new motor w/ DI, etc. We are not starting from scratch here, though. We've already cracked the ECU prior to our car's arrival and have done a pretty thorough analysis of its engine code. That said, we have a lot of testing, verification, and additional development to do before an Accessport release becomes a reality (we are always very thorough to make sure we deliver the highest quality product we can).

The 14 FXT has been brought up before. We have also done a pretty thorough analysis of the engine code here as well. The issue with this car is that we have not decided if we are going to support it or not. The problem here is not that there's any obstacle that we have to overcome to tune this car, but whether or not the product will be successful enough to warrant the resources involved. Even after a product is released, there are resources involved in customer support, software/firmware updates, map updates, etc. that continue as long as we still offer the Accessport for that vehicle. So, while we haven't ruled it out, we haven't given it the go-ahead either.

As far as the BRZ, we decided awhile back that this wasn't the right product for us. Again, no obstacle here as far as cracking the ECU, but we did not believe there would be enough return on our investment to pursue support for that car. That doesn't mean that we won't change our minds in the future, but, currently, we do not have any plans to support a tuning solution for the BRZ.

Bill
Now that we have an official announcement from Cobb can a mod thread close this? I will copy this information and place it in Gro Harlems' thread if it hasn't been done already.
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