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Old 09-16-2019, 01:26 PM   #451
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The wheels look like WedSports or similar. Anthracite wheels have been going on and on for over 20 years and everybody coats their BBS' in it. Machining the face to give them a split 5 look is pretty cool. At least it's something different to differentiate between model years.
They're still heavy af Enkei's though...
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Old 09-16-2019, 01:41 PM   #452
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They're 19s.
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Old 09-16-2019, 01:46 PM   #453
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Even the Type RA's 19" BBS wheels are heavy. They come in around 24.2 lbs - ~4 lbs less than the standard 19" STI wheels.

The S209's wheel will probably be a bit heavier than the Type RA given that it's a little wider at 19x9".
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Old 09-16-2019, 02:31 PM   #454
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The wheels look like WedSports or similar. Anthracite wheels have been going on and on for over 20 years and everybody coats their BBS' in it. Machining the face to give them a split 5 look is pretty cool. At least it's something different to differentiate between model years.
Sometimes I feel like I'm in the extreme minority for not being particularly fond of blacked-out or dark-grey wheels, as de rigueur as they are on sporty cars. Frankly I'm surprised Subaru "silvered up" the wheels for 2020, given that trend, but it's an improvement to my eye.

Maybe if it's machining and not paint, they shaved an ounce or two? Sub-5.0 0-60 times, here we come!
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Old 09-20-2019, 10:11 AM   #455
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Sometimes I feel like I'm in the extreme minority for not being particularly fond of blacked-out or dark-grey wheels, as de rigueur as they are on sporty cars. Frankly I'm surprised Subaru "silvered up" the wheels for 2020, given that trend, but it's an improvement to my eye.

Maybe if it's machining and not paint, they shaved an ounce or two? Sub-5.0 0-60 times, here we come!
I do like blacked out and grey wheels too but it depends on the vehicle and wheel design. But I'm not a huge fan of different colors on different spokes of the wheel.

I miss the gold wheels on the STI. I wish it would be an option and not just a "launch edition" color now.
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Old 09-20-2019, 12:21 PM   #456
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Sometimes I feel like I'm in the extreme minority for not being particularly fond of blacked-out or dark-grey wheels, as de rigueur as they are on sporty cars. Frankly I'm surprised Subaru "silvered up" the wheels for 2020, given that trend, but it's an improvement to my eye.

Maybe if it's machining and not paint, they shaved an ounce or two? Sub-5.0 0-60 times, here we come!
I was surprised at how much I liked the wheels on the Impreza when i first saw it. Until then I'd preferred monochrome wheels, like BBS, etc. But they set the rest of the car off nicely, forming a cohesive image. Mine are like those here, just a little different: Ten spokes in a five by two grouping, with a machined surface highlighting the split five spoke groups. Since then I've noticed a lot of newer cars have the same basic format. I find them a distinct improvement across the board.

The ten spoke design also looks strong, and likely easier to produce a balanced product with the weight distributed like that, reducing costs. No doubt they're also more aerodynamic as well, saving their whisper of fuel vapors. Plus, those numerous smaller spokes have to play a factor in the wheel's weight, while the machining's eye-tricking gleam gives the mind its favorite five spoke flavor.

So, Yes, the 'silver' is a machined surface. Super easy to "look" spiffy even if you don't take the extra couple minutes to wipe down the rest. Just a quick pass with the detailer on the shiny parts and the wheels look great and always clean. That was never an option on my STi's BBSs, nor any others I remember.
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Old 09-26-2019, 11:29 AM   #457
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The 2020 PDF brochure is up now and it confirms the loss of one city MPG for the STI compared to 2019.

Strange. With no known mechanical changes, I wonder what's causing that. If there's been some change to the certification process, it hasn't affected the WRX, which is showing the same ratings as last year.

On another note, it's amusing to notice brochure photos that were definitely reused from last year but with the STI's new wheels Photoshopped onto the car. I've seen them do that kind of thing occasionally over the years ... changed wheels or headlight/grille details, even added or removed hood scoops.

Probably makes a lot of sense with the power of today's graphics software. Why pay for a full photo shoot if you don't have to when the rest of the car is the same anyway? Still, it's funny to notice.
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Old 09-26-2019, 07:58 PM   #458
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As you said, they've been doing that for years. The 2009(I believe) Tribeca photos were used through the end of the Tribeca's life
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Old 10-02-2019, 03:42 AM   #459
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Looks like 2020 WRX Brembo Performance option is getting Red Brembo Calipers! Nice

https://www.elkgrovesubaru.com/new/S...b9c84aff70.htm




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Old 10-02-2019, 11:19 AM   #460
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The new Performance Package option is really appealing with the Brembos & Recaros. Now all it needs to be the perfect package is a rear LSD

Excited to see what the next gen STI delivers.
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Old 10-11-2019, 10:56 PM   #461
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Hey I'm the one who made that post. I actually test drove the 2020 2 days ago. The rev hang seems much better! I always expected the slight jerk going 1rst to 2nd but it was never there, the throttle mapping may be different as well, more linear, actually stalled it once starting from a stop since my usual slight throttle input to get going was not enough. Shifter felt a little smoother but that might be because it had 25km. I may try it again so let me know if you guys have some questions.

I have a 2020 on order that should be here in about a month, not sure I want to trade in my 2018 just yet though since I am very curious about the next STI.
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Old 10-11-2019, 11:04 PM   #462
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Hey I'm the one who made that post. I actually test drove the 2020 2 days ago. The rev hang seems much better! I always expected the slight jerk going 1rst to 2nd but it was never there, the throttle mapping may be different as well, more linear, actually stalled it once starting from a stop since my usual slight throttle input to get going was not enough. Shifter felt a little smoother but that might be because it had 25km. I may try it again so let me know if you guys have some questions.

I have a 2020 on order that should be here in about a month, not sure I want to trade in my 2018 just yet though since I am very curious about the next STI.
Thanks for sharing! That's great to hear with the next gen STI right around the corner (hopefully).
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Old 10-15-2019, 01:02 PM   #463
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Thanks for sharing! That's great to hear with the next gen STI right around the corner (hopefully).
Definitely! Losing the rumble with the new sti engine is going to be one thing, but having rev hang like the WRX would suck.
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Old 10-15-2019, 01:22 PM   #464
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Sometimes I feel like I'm in the extreme minority for not being particularly fond of blacked-out or dark-grey wheels, as de rigueur as they are on sporty cars. Frankly I'm surprised Subaru "silvered up" the wheels for 2020, given that trend, but it's an improvement to my eye.
Hey, I feel exactly the same way! So yea, you're probably in some extreme minority.

Black wheels, and usually even more so the black w/machined accent wheels automatically look aftermarket to me. Tuner-y. All of which I dislike.
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Old 10-15-2019, 01:29 PM   #465
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Not a fan of black/ dark wheels at all. To my eyes it makes the vehicle look ďheavy on itís feetĒ.
Perhaps itís blasphemy here, but I donít like the gold wheels either. Looks cheap and tacky to me.
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Old 10-15-2019, 01:46 PM   #466
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We just picked up a Red 2020 wrx with the PP last Friday. It’s my wife’s new daily. We are waiting on PPF to really drive it much. It had 4 miles on it Friday. It’s right at 100 now. I have a 2011 sti and I’m really liking the new wrx. The brembos are just like my sti and the Reccaro seats are kick ass! The rev hang doesn’t seem as bad as it was in previous years that we test drove. As miles add up on it we’ll see how it does.
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Old 10-15-2019, 02:05 PM   #467
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Definitely! Losing the rumble with the new sti engine is going to be one thing, but having rev hang like the WRX would suck.
I'm okay with losing the rumble

It's the musical symphony of colliding exhaust pulses.. inefficiency at its finest for our aging EJ257.

I'll glady trade the rumble (UELH, single scroll, journal bearing turbo) for a more efficient equal length, twin scroll, ball bearing turbo setup. The EJ207 has done this all along.

Granted I may be biased since I'm planning a twin scroll build for my STI
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Old 10-15-2019, 02:08 PM   #468
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We just picked up a Red 2020 wrx with the PP last Friday. Itís my wifeís new daily. We are waiting on PPF to really drive it much. It had 4 miles on it Friday. Itís right at 100 now. I have a 2011 sti and Iím really liking the new wrx. The brembos are just like my sti and the Reccaro seats are kick ass! The rev hang doesnít seem as bad as it was in previous years that we test drove. As miles add up on it weíll see how it does.
Congrats! You have a lucky wife

The FA20 is a great engine, especially if the rev hang has been addressed. The Brembos & Recaro seats really top off the package. Now only if it came with the option of adding the STI drivetrain

PPF is also a great idea with the thin Subaru paint.

Now you'll just have to convince your wife to go with a "stage 1" flex fuel tune and it'll completely refine the car.
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We aren’t sure what to do performance wise since there will be a new model next year. The thought is to keep it 2 years and trade it for a new model. 1 year till the new model and 1 year to work out the bugs, but we will see. It’s getting tint tomorrow, PPF next Tuesday and I have a load of exterior pieces showing up tomorrow from IIR.
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Not a fan of black/ dark wheels at all. To my eyes it makes the vehicle look ďheavy on itís feetĒ.
Perhaps itís blasphemy here, but I donít like the gold wheels either. Looks cheap and tacky to me.
Wheels are a deeply personal matter if one chooses to care. Most of the buying public could care less about wheels. Hell a lot of people don't know the first thing about the wheels they have on their car. With more and more leasing nowadays, personalization is a shrinking market.

WE choose to care. My opinions over the years have aged. Colors of cars I used to abhor I now seem to like. Same goes for wheels. So weird age creeps in and shakes everything up.
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Old 10-15-2019, 02:39 PM   #471
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Not a fan of black/ dark wheels at all. To my eyes it makes the vehicle look ďheavy on itís feetĒ.
Perhaps itís blasphemy here, but I donít like the gold wheels either. Looks cheap and tacky to me.
Them's fightin' words for sure, but I'll join you in the blasphemy. Never cared for the gold wheels. I don't think I could have bought my 2006 STI if they hadn't offered the silver BBS. Granted, I recall the wheel-color choice was body-color-dependent, so luckily I wanted a body color that was available with the silver. With some colors, I think, you didn't have a choice.

But while I wouldn't want that look for my own car, at the same time, I'm glad Subaru offers them ... er, offered. The blue especially on gold is such a signature Subaru/WRX/STI thing. An iconic color scheme for an iconic car. (Even if it's slipped a bit from view in recent years.) It's like how I don't particularly want an S209, but I find it cool that it exists.
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No truer words were spoken there. I’ll be 40 next year, listening to music I would never listen,to Driving Japanese cars that I absolutely despised forever. It makes my wife laugh I have two daughters so that could be part of it
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you old geezers are like wine...as you age you start to have better taste :P j/k
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It's like how I don't particularly want an S209, but I find it cool that it exists.
Iíll be the first to tell someone theyíre an idiot to drop $65k or a lot more on the S209. Iíll also be the first to rubberneck the hell out of one and blabber drooling incoherent squeals of joy.

The first part is definitely age induced dad puke.
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I might have to go test drive a 2020. I'm curious about the rev hang. I only have 7k on my 6mo old 19, but if rev hang is gone and throttle is more linear I might have to try and convince my dealer to flash my car with the new tune!
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