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Old 09-19-2019, 10:40 AM   #176
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The WRX and STI used to be Imprezas. Subaru marketing killed that.

When this forum was created by a couple dudes there was only the Impreza 2.5RS. Nothing to write a wall of text or any text over much the same as the current Impreza. That said is still is cool to open my garage door and see one parked inside.
No, there wasn't (1.8, 2.2). But, that was simply 1 of the main reasons for the forum, yes.

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Old 09-19-2019, 11:09 AM   #177
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No, there wasn't (1.8, 2.2). But, that was simply 1 of the main reasons for the forum, yes.

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Is there a history as you know it for me to read? Where the original reasons behind the website, the personal side, backgrounds, etc are laid out?

This isnít the only Subaru website Iíve ever watched lose its way. It usually coincides with the loss of Old Timers... no one to keep the flame. I would appreciate the history lesson.
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Old 09-19-2019, 11:32 AM   #178
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Wait, it's NASIOC? I thought it was NABISCO? are you guys cookie & snack enthusiasts or am I the only one? I've been here for over eleven years thinking you all liked cookies and snacks as much as I did...
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Old 09-19-2019, 11:43 AM   #179
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There used to be something we could read about the beginnings of the forum, not sure where it is nowadays.
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Old 09-19-2019, 03:35 PM   #180
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the 2015 wrx was shown in the beginning months of 2014 and went on sale late spring/early summer of 2014 for Model Year 2015. Think we will see the same thing with the 2021 WRX, STI? Should be coming soon if that is the case
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Old 09-20-2019, 12:32 AM   #181
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Although I'll not get another STi, I'm still excited to read all about the new one when it comes out. That's what I did before I got mine and it's what I've always done... tasting cars in my mind whether I intend to own them or not. Porn of another kind.

After a long satisfying life pursuing cars' performance, vicarious or actual, I have to tell you it's nice to break from that cycle. A lot of years and too many cars have taught me a couple of things, it's nice to have a lot of power, but it's frustrating to be unable to use it. Meantime you're stuck in the real world among the legions of comatose drivers who are more aware of everything else but their vehicles. Four more wheels on the chugging transportation train to everywhere.

For the most part being on the road is about everything but performance... especially if your idea of performance is 90% motor, with the rest being what enables that motor to do its thing. Brakes to haul it down, transmission to take its abuse, tires to keep it on the tarmac, and trace amounts of anything else. Meanwhie, there you are, an ant in an endless line of ants headed to and from with all that armament, satisfying only in its potentials just like it did in the magazines.

And even when we have what we lusted for to drive, it's never enough. More power, more luxury, higher cornering forces, better bigger tires and brakes, gadgets and gizmos and sleeker better cars steal the pleasure of satisfaction with what you have at the moment. It's a never ending cycle, a hunger never satisfied. Because even if you are satisfied, you have modified to perfection, you couldn't be happier... it never lasts. "It" gets old, tired, and too often smashed. A memory.

So I decided to get off that grid. Revisit the world I once knew, when a car meant freedom, new places and a chance to see the world. When even the wind rushing by made us want to feel it, smell it, hear it. Back seats, and what they meant. Passengers to conspire with. Endless places that called. The mystery of life out there more intoxicating than anything else. Keep gas in it, the tires pumped up, and go. What happened to that? We get older and jaded. We settled down to life, or it settled upon us.

New cars with more stuff trying to mask the boring reality of routine existence. When we can't go back to where the journey began. First cut really is the deepest. No car can give what was free in the first one. Virginity lost is gone forever.

I drove slowly along a decrepit road beside a creek with the windows down, the roof open, just smelling the air the other day. I smelled yesterday, saw it around me. I drove in the mountains that, were all humans gone, would never notice. The sky's blues and grays, the sun through the trees, and the sound of birds were no different from forever ago. The bright foliage's bitter sweet beauty a tithe to fall.

That's what I want from life now. That's what I get. And amazingly, it doesn't take three or four hundred horsepower to get it. Who knew. I just had to remember. My Subaru Impreza takes me there.
Pure automotive poetry.
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Old 09-20-2019, 07:06 AM   #182
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FYR, Volvo uses a transverse Aisin 8-speed tranny; the only transverse ZF equivalent is a 9-speed and I'm not sure it's better.
The desirable ZF is the longitudinal 8-speed, IMO.
How're you so knowledgeable about such things? Good looking out, mate.

Also, I agree with Seeeyaaa's sentiment, except that I haven't quite given up on owning an STI again. I'm just waiting to see if Subaru builds EXACTLY what I want: 5-door, AWD, performance beast with a strong transmission and Brembos. If not, then I'll wait for the updated BRZ and pick it up as a secondary car once there's another tS.

Right now I'm enjoying traveling in my Impreza with EyeSight. I just moved to Massachusetts over 2 weeks ago. I've been in Portland, Maine, visiting friends from Alaska the last two days. Happened to run into MORE friends from Alaska that I didn't plan on meeting.

With all this traveling and traffic, I do debate with myself daily on the idea of an STI with EyeSight. If it only came mated to the HTCVT, would I own one? I'm not so sure. I really miss driving a manual, but I REALLY enjoy EyeSight. My hope is that Subaru will mate the two, but I dunno. It wouldn't be a great loss to not have a manual because the roads and traffic on the east coast suck. However, I really enjoy rowing gears.

Only time will tell.
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Old 09-20-2019, 07:52 AM   #183
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the 2015 wrx was shown in the beginning months of 2014 and went on sale late spring/early summer of 2014 for Model Year 2015. Think we will see the same thing with the 2021 WRX, STI? Should be coming soon if that is the case
2020 just started arriving and it wouldnt make sense to announce a 2021 model with updated engine. 2020 models would just not sell in anticipation of the new model.

I would expect a new updated and anticipated model to be announced sometime after orders for current model ends.
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Old 09-20-2019, 11:16 AM   #184
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2020 just started arriving and it wouldnt make sense to announce a 2021 model with updated engine. 2020 models would just not sell in anticipation of the new model.

I would expect a new updated and anticipated model to be announced sometime after orders for current model ends.
So how is that different than what happened in 2014, I'm asking because I simple don't know. Looks like there is a 2014 wrx and would of been just released when they debuted the 2015 wrx new style
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Old 09-20-2019, 11:17 AM   #185
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How're you so knowledgeable about such things? Good looking out, mate.

Also, I agree with Seeeyaaa's sentiment, except that I haven't quite given up on owning an STI again. I'm just waiting to see if Subaru builds EXACTLY what I want: 5-door, AWD, performance beast with a strong transmission and Brembos. If not, then I'll wait for the updated BRZ and pick it up as a secondary car once there's another tS.

Right now I'm enjoying traveling in my Impreza with EyeSight. I just moved to Massachusetts over 2 weeks ago. I've been in Portland, Maine, visiting friends from Alaska the last two days. Happened to run into MORE friends from Alaska that I didn't plan on meeting.

With all this traveling and traffic, I do debate with myself daily on the idea of an STI with EyeSight. If it only came mated to the HTCVT, would I own one? I'm not so sure. I really miss driving a manual, but I REALLY enjoy EyeSight. My hope is that Subaru will mate the two, but I dunno. It wouldn't be a great loss to not have a manual because the roads and traffic on the east coast suck. However, I really enjoy rowing gears.

Only time will tell.
If Booby made a new 5dr STI with the 2.4L DIT and it was reliable (no power ringland failures, spun bearings, etc) I'd buy one too. But not if it had eyesore on it. But my fear is it is going to start at 40k. At 35k, oh yeah.

I have a site in Portland Maine. Nice area. Enjoy.
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Old 09-20-2019, 12:41 PM   #186
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Maine is a great place... in the summer. In the winter? Not so much for most. I still went, however. Just a different side of a great place. Quiet and peaceful, the crowds gone. Like the Cape.

The only trouble with Maine, in my opinion, is the bugs... black flies. Green Heads. Etc. More than once all the planning and the long drive up before daylight the flies and mosquitos forced me to reschedule my hikes on the AT before the first thousand feet.

Few vistas rival that from to top of Katahdin on a sunny day. Unforgettable. Even Mt. Washington's, its other-worldy landscape stealing the limelight from the distant lands below.

Enjoy, Chano. Craft your memories with wonder. The stark naked beauty of reality in Maine is priceless.
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Old 09-20-2019, 01:21 PM   #187
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Winters in Maine can be great ( if you enjoy outdoor activities ) . But if you dislike the cold, the weather can be pretty rough. Hope you enjoy tour time up here.
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Old 09-20-2019, 02:46 PM   #188
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The only trouble with Maine, in my opinion, is the bugs... black flies. Green Heads. Etc. More than once all the planning and the long drive up before daylight the flies and mosquitos forced me to reschedule my hikes on the AT before the first thousand feet.
I live in Maine.. for AT you need to dip your clothes in permethrin, and use picardin spray on the skin, and if really needed, wear a bug net over your head.
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Old 09-20-2019, 04:40 PM   #189
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I live in Maine.. for AT you need to dip your clothes in permethrin, and use picardin spray on the skin, and if really needed, wear a bug net over your head.
Better make that a noseeum net. Those little bastids laugh at regular netting.

As you so accurately pointed out, you are at war with bugs in Maine. One of the things I like about where I live, in WV... no bugs to feed on me, with a random mosquito sometimes. I've not had a bite in years. (might be me, dunno )

Mass where I lived wasn't a lot better at times, especially at night camping out. Nothing worked but getting in the car and picking them off one by one. Ruined things more than once.

Nothing I've heard about or experienced, however, will match what I faced at twilight in Puerto Rico one evening. I ran for my life.

It seems to be boring in 2021 WRX and WRX STI - FA24??? land of late. They sure know how to keep secrets.
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Old 09-20-2019, 05:34 PM   #190
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It seems to be boring in 2021 WRX and WRX STI - FA24??? land of late. They sure know how to keep secrets.
Remarkably so. One speculative article and then... nothing.
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Old 09-20-2019, 06:39 PM   #191
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I'm trying to catch that Triple E tho! But, my roommate won't let me.
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This week some teasers?
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Old 09-22-2019, 06:50 PM   #193
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Well... It's almost October 24th.
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Old 09-22-2019, 09:48 PM   #194
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Although I'll not get another STi, I'm still excited to read all about the new one when it comes out. That's what I did before I got mine and it's what I've always done... tasting cars in my mind whether I intend to own them or not. Porn of another kind.

After a long satisfying life pursuing cars' performance, vicarious or actual, I have to tell you it's nice to break from that cycle. A lot of years and too many cars have taught me a couple of things, it's nice to have a lot of power, but it's frustrating to be unable to use it. Meantime you're stuck in the real world among the legions of comatose drivers who are more aware of everything else but their vehicles. Four more wheels on the chugging transportation train to everywhere.

For the most part being on the road is about everything but performance... especially if your idea of performance is 90% motor, with the rest being what enables that motor to do its thing. Brakes to haul it down, transmission to take its abuse, tires to keep it on the tarmac, and trace amounts of anything else. Meanwhie, there you are, an ant in an endless line of ants headed to and from with all that armament, satisfying only in its potentials just like it did in the magazines.

And even when we have what we lusted for to drive, it's never enough. More power, more luxury, higher cornering forces, better bigger tires and brakes, gadgets and gizmos and sleeker better cars steal the pleasure of satisfaction with what you have at the moment. It's a never ending cycle, a hunger never satisfied. Because even if you are satisfied, you have modified to perfection, you couldn't be happier... it never lasts. "It" gets old, tired, and too often smashed. A memory.

So I decided to get off that grid. Revisit the world I once knew, when a car meant freedom, new places and a chance to see the world. When even the wind rushing by made us want to feel it, smell it, hear it. Back seats, and what they meant. Passengers to conspire with. Endless places that called. The mystery of life out there more intoxicating than anything else. Keep gas in it, the tires pumped up, and go. What happened to that? We get older and jaded. We settled down to life, or it settled upon us.

New cars with more stuff trying to mask the boring reality of routine existence. When we can't go back to where the journey began. First cut really is the deepest. No car can give what was free in the first one. Virginity lost is gone forever.

I drove slowly along a decrepit road beside a creek with the windows down, the roof open, just smelling the air the other day. I smelled yesterday, saw it around me. I drove in the mountains that, were all humans gone, would never notice. The sky's blues and grays, the sun through the trees, and the sound of birds were no different from forever ago. The bright foliage's bitter sweet beauty a tithe to fall.

That's what I want from life now. That's what I get. And amazingly, it doesn't take three or four hundred horsepower to get it. Who knew. I just had to remember. My Subaru Impreza takes me there.
Truer words never spoken, well said.

I see this horsepower race and shake my head, I don't get it. What's fun about driving a 600 hp car behind a minivan? My Civic has a 6MT, little turbo, and Amazon Music or Podcasts, and I enjoy it as much as any car.

Now what I'd really like is to spend money on some experiences, like the Subaru Winter Driving Experience, or renting a 911 to drive in the Swiss Alps. Experiences over material goods, any day.
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Old 09-22-2019, 09:50 PM   #195
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Maine is a great place... in the summer. In the winter? Not so much for most. I still went, however. Just a different side of a great place. Quiet and peaceful, the crowds gone. Like the Cape.

The only trouble with Maine, in my opinion, is the bugs... black flies. Green Heads. Etc. More than once all the planning and the long drive up before daylight the flies and mosquitos forced me to reschedule my hikes on the AT before the first thousand feet.

Few vistas rival that from to top of Katahdin on a sunny day. Unforgettable. Even Mt. Washington's, its other-worldy landscape stealing the limelight from the distant lands below.

Enjoy, Chano. Craft your memories with wonder. The stark naked beauty of reality in Maine is priceless.
It's the apparent lack of bugs that attracts me to the Pacific Northwest. The rental home we had in Vancouver didn't even have screens on the windows. I'm so sick of mosquitos.
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So how is that different than what happened in 2014, I'm asking because I simple don't know. Looks like there is a 2014 wrx and would of been just released when they debuted the 2015 wrx new style
Based on Cars101, which holds like a log of events:
2014 pricing was released end of July, and cut off date for orders was Sept 30.
2015 model was announced in Nov of that year.

Subaru did not show any indication that the next model year was going to have a drastic change, not till after orders for the current model year were done.
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Old 09-23-2019, 10:00 AM   #197
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Based on Cars101, which holds like a log of events:
2014 pricing was released end of July, and cut off date for orders was Sept 30.
2015 model was announced in Nov of that year.

Subaru did not show any indication that the next model year was going to have a drastic change, not till after orders for the current model year were done.
That's not true from what I've seen. 2015 subaru wrx was debuted at 2013 LA auto show with all it's details etc. The 2015 Subaru STI was debuted at detroit autoshow a month later at detroit autoshow in Jan 2014. There are tons of articles out there from Jan 2014 showing the 2015 wrx and when it will be available for orders also, they say march-June of 2014. Pricing was released in feb that year.

"The 2013 Los Angeles Auto Show was held from November 22 through December 1, 2013."

2015 Subaru WRX[178]


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Just got back from taking my FXT in, power steering leak (over $2k estimate). Did a ride along with the shop foreman because it wasn't making noise, and had this conversation:

Me: Think it will last about a year or so, thinking about getting the new STI.

Him: The new, new STI with the 2.4?

Me: You have some insider information?

Him: It's getting a beefed up 2.4 out of the ascent.

Me: that's what I've heard

I didn't ask what his sources were, so he could just be repeating what we've all seen already.
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Just got back from taking my FXT in, power steering leak (over $2k estimate). Did a ride along with the shop foreman because it wasn't making noise, and had this conversation:

Me: Think it will last about a year or so, thinking about getting the new STI.

Him: The new, new STI with the 2.4?

Me: You have some insider information?

Him: It's getting a beefed up 2.4 out of the ascent.

Me: that's what I've heard

I didn't ask what his sources were, so he could just be repeating what we've all seen already.
Corroborated. Lead tech at my dealer has said the same thing. They've already had some training on the matter. Details are still unknown (like deck, forged internals, etc...) but still said it's going to be a 2.4.

Imagine if they shocked everyone with a 3.0 semi closed deck w/forged internals at around 375hp? They did that once already with the 2.5L turbo when everyone else got 2.0 for a bit. Since they're not rallying anymore, homologation says what?

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