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Old 09-17-2019, 11:52 PM   #1
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Default STI Short Throw Shifter worth it for STI?

I'm debating whether or not I should order a 2020 STI with a Factory STI Short Throw Shifter. What are the differences in terms of driving feel between the stock shifter compared with STS upgrade and is it worth it?
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Old 09-18-2019, 09:37 AM   #2
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Had it on my 5 STi's and yes... = )
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Old 09-18-2019, 10:18 AM   #3
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Imo I don't think it's worth it. The throws don't seem to be that much different, and it forces you to be much more precise with shifting. I don't hate it, but it's not something you need to spend 4-500$+ on. You could probably get the same effect and spend much less money on a shift stop/bushings/shift plate.
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Old 09-18-2019, 10:26 AM   #4
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Totally not worth it, get the cart boy and be done with it.

The difference in the night reduction is drastic with the cart boy. Not so much with the STi
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Old 09-18-2019, 10:35 AM   #5
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The answer is very subjective. Best thing to do is to ask your dealership for test drives of both and see for yourself.
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Old 09-18-2019, 10:42 AM   #6
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You could probably get the same effect and spend much less money on a shift stop/bushings/shift plate.
He's asking for the STI not the WRX

FWIW, my STI came with the STS and I enjoy it. It does take a bit of getting used to at first. You can certainly go with an aftermarket shifter, but then you have to deal with the hassle of installing it.
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Old 09-18-2019, 12:07 PM   #7
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He's asking for the STI not the WRX

FWIW, my STI came with the STS and I enjoy it. It does take a bit of getting used to at first. You can certainly go with an aftermarket shifter, but then you have to deal with the hassle of installing it.
I wasn't aware that you can't add shift stop/bushings to STI?
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Old 09-18-2019, 12:41 PM   #8
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I wasn't aware that you can't add shift stop/bushings to STI?
The STI transmission is rod shifted so things are a bit different. You can still swap bushings, but no shift plate or shift stop.
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Old 09-18-2019, 01:07 PM   #9
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The STI transmission is rod shifted so things are a bit different. You can still swap bushings, but no shift plate or shift stop.
ahhh makes sense. Thanks for throwing some knowledge my way.
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Old 09-18-2019, 01:13 PM   #10
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I got one when I ordered my '18. I also knew I didn't want to "mess" with anything when I bought it, so got what I could in the order.

If you are one to mod items yourself, then I believe after market is the way to go.

If you are not one to mod items yourself, then order the short throw.

I also opted for the sport exhaust as I had heard/ driven a friend's and it was plenty loud enough for me, and I knew I wasn't going to mess with it. But I believe they got rid of this option after the '19?

GL with your decision!
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Old 09-18-2019, 02:06 PM   #11
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If you have to ask... you prob shouldn't
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Old 09-18-2019, 05:23 PM   #12
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i just got my 2020 STI and the shift is not bad(non-STS)...compared to my previous car 2013 WRX; the shift is a lot closer
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Old 09-18-2019, 10:19 PM   #13
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My 2019 came with factory short shifter, was more of a pleasant surprise than what I was already considering prior to first test drive. I have not driven one without it however I find it to be perfect for me. I have had other cars with short shifter before and have not experienced any issues with precision in my shifts even when first getting accustomed to it. I did find that it took a few hundred miles to "break in" as it was slightly tight, particularly 3-4 shift at first. I am more than capable of installing one myself but at least everything in the assembly is warrantied if something does somehow fail and cannot try and say it was an installer error.
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Old 09-19-2019, 10:39 AM   #14
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I'm wondering if the issues I'm having from my STS come from a very heavy weighted aftermarket shift knob, as well as it being taller like a stick rather than spherical. I switched it back to the stock shift knob, (which is slightly weighted anyway) and I've had much smoother transitions from 3-4 and 4-5.
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Kartboy is the gold standard on shifters for the STi. If you don't feel like reaching for a lower knob there's also a solution made by Kartboy but exclusively for me.

If you feel like being baller there's the CAE setup which is quite nice.
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Old 09-19-2019, 12:45 PM   #16
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Kartboy is the gold standard on shifters for the STi. If you don't feel like reaching for a lower knob there's also a solution made by Kartboy but exclusively for me.

If you feel like being baller there's the CAE setup which is quite nice.
I have an 18Sti , how do I know if I have the STS? I feel like the throws are perfect as is but yea, What is a CAE set up? any links? Thank you!
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Old 09-19-2019, 07:25 PM   #17
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Kartboy is the gold standard on shifters for the STi. If you don't feel like reaching for a lower knob there's also a solution made by Kartboy but exclusively for me.

If you feel like being baller there's the CAE setup which is quite nice.
I agree with EricZ 100% and need two of these in my life.
http://turninconcepts.com/driveline/...sti-lever.html
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Old 09-20-2019, 01:22 AM   #18
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hacksaw for the win...
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Old 09-20-2019, 07:23 AM   #19
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Imo I don't think it's worth it. The throws don't seem to be that much different, and it forces you to be much more precise with shifting. I don't hate it, but it's not something you need to spend 4-500$+ on. You could probably get the same effect and spend much less money on a shift stop/bushings/shift plate.
I can't speak for the STI because I haven't driven a regular vs sts back to back but as far as the WRX, it is the only mod I regret doing. Biggest waste of money IMO.
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Old 09-20-2019, 01:50 PM   #20
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Another vote for the STi short shifter.
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Old 09-20-2019, 04:54 PM   #21
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OEM one no, aftermarket yes.
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Old 09-20-2019, 07:22 PM   #22
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What folks are failing to acknowledge is that for a stock, OEM component, the Subaru short shifter is a great piece. There are certainly others out there that you may like better but the OE one is great.
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Old 09-20-2019, 07:33 PM   #23
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yo know its kinda one of those things that you dont really notice it when you put it in but you sure notice it when you drive someone else that doesnt have one
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Old 10-09-2019, 12:44 AM   #24
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Thanks for the replies everyone. I'm likely going to get a STS if I get the STI.
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Old 10-09-2019, 01:00 AM   #25
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I have a kartboy on my 5 speed wrx, I like the shorter throw but donít like the fact that the knob sits lower. I have a oem short shifter on my 6 speed and love everything about it, the knob sits at stock like hight, itís perfect.
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