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Old 05-24-2020, 12:24 PM   #4026
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no point since it goes straight into the steamed milk from there.

first espresso shot out of the Italian appliance was pretty good. Lots of frothy coffee foam on top. I made my first latte with it this morning and it definitely takes more work to get the whole thing done. Final product was good. I'm using whole milk for now but will be experimented with heavy cream soon.

The filter holder needs a lot of force to get into position. ended up making a big mess trying to remove it to clean it. My guess is that it'll take a few weeks to get that smoother, but i'm tempted to file down the guide tabs just a bit.
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no point since it goes straight into the steamed milk from there.

first espresso shot out of the Italian appliance was pretty good. Lots of frothy coffee foam on top. I made my first latte with it this morning and it definitely takes more work to get the whole thing done. Final product was good. I'm using whole milk for now but will be experimented with heavy cream soon.

The filter holder needs a lot of force to get into position. ended up making a big mess trying to remove it to clean it. My guess is that it'll take a few weeks to get that smoother, but i'm tempted to file down the guide tabs just a bit.

Youíre compressing the puck with the screen on top. You need to get a tamper. Then start doing the dime test. Ramp, place a dime on top of the puck and latch it onto the machine. Take it right back off and see if youíve left the impression of the dime into the top of the puck. If yes, reduce how much coffee you put in the basket.
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Old 05-24-2020, 02:00 PM   #4028
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If you're not weighing beans, the easiest way in general is to mound the pf to overflowing, then scrape it level with a straight index finger, no tapping or shaking. Then tamp. A PF filled to the top with fluffy, uncompressed ground will almost never have contact issues.

If you're weighing beans, tapping to even or compress is fine.
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Old 05-25-2020, 02:02 PM   #4029
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Do drip machines just kind of wear out eventually, maybe the heating element? I have a Bonavita BV1900 TS that I have used at least once a day for probably seven years and the coffee just seems... Flat? It's less flavorful, doesn't seem as hot as it should be (it goes fresh to ice cold in ~20 minutes). It could be my grind, it's possible the ol' capresso infinity I bought at the same time has worn out, but my coffee just isn't as good as I remember it being and consistently tastes "off" despite regular cleanings of the machine and no differences in my water or grind.
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Old 05-25-2020, 02:24 PM   #4030
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You use cleancaf to descale it regularly? Have you changed water or coffee provider?
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Old 05-25-2020, 02:31 PM   #4031
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1. Yes
2. No on water, I buy different coffees regularly and it always just tastes a little... I don't know, there's no complexity to the flavors, even on coffee I'm very familiar with. It tastes like my water/grind/whatever ratio is off, but of course I haven't changed that either. Just wanted to see if this was a thing that could happen or if it was user error.
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Old 05-25-2020, 03:02 PM   #4032
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Does it seem like the temperature is any different?
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Old 05-25-2020, 03:18 PM   #4033
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Yes, but that could be in my head - I haven't been taking measurements!
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Old 05-25-2020, 03:56 PM   #4034
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Figured it out. The Bonavita has a "Bloom" setting designed for very fresh roasts that I had accidentally turned on. If my coffee isn't SUPER fresh and that setting is on, it doesn't extract properly, I guess. I turned it off and my coffee's fine again.
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Old 05-25-2020, 04:04 PM   #4035
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User error...I'm literally shocked!
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That's SUPER weird, because that should just be a preinfusion setting, but hey, it's fixed! Good job.
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Old 05-25-2020, 04:58 PM   #4037
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no point since it goes straight into the steamed milk from there.

first espresso shot out of the Italian appliance was pretty good. Lots of frothy coffee foam on top. I made my first latte with it this morning and it definitely takes more work to get the whole thing done. Final product was good. I'm using whole milk for now but will be experimented with heavy cream soon.

The filter holder needs a lot of force to get into position. ended up making a big mess trying to remove it to clean it. My guess is that it'll take a few weeks to get that smoother, but i'm tempted to file down the guide tabs just a bit.
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You’re compressing the puck with the screen on top. You need to get a tamper. Then start doing the dime test. Ramp, place a dime on top of the puck and latch it onto the machine. Take it right back off and see if you’ve left the impression of the dime into the top of the puck. If yes, reduce how much coffee you put in the basket.
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If you're not weighing beans, the easiest way in general is to mound the pf to overflowing, then scrape it level with a straight index finger, no tapping or shaking. Then tamp. A PF filled to the top with fluffy, uncompressed ground will almost never have contact issues.

If you're weighing beans, tapping to even or compress is fine.

Like the others said, definitely get a tamper. I ordered a $15 no name stainless steel 58mm tamper on amazon and it works perfectly.

Edit: I think this it the one https://www.amazon.com/Omgogo-Stainl.../dp/B079KDWFBZ

Also I highly recommend a coffeevac canister. https://www.amazon.com/Coffeevac-Ult.../dp/B0046JB136
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Old 05-25-2020, 05:14 PM   #4038
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That's SUPER weird, because that should just be a preinfusion setting, but hey, it's fixed! Good job.
Yeah, I dunno. Whatever I did, it tastes better now! I figured it had to be user error.
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Old 05-28-2020, 12:24 PM   #4039
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catching up on thread. quarantine life has allowed me to fire up the toys and get my ***** dialed back in. feels good

(cross posting watch stuff so i can spam two hobbies with one cup lol)




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Old 05-28-2020, 12:51 PM   #4040
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Also I highly recommend a coffeevac canister. https://www.amazon.com/Coffeevac-Ult.../dp/B0046JB136
Interested. I assume this is also useful for ground coffee?
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Old 05-28-2020, 01:06 PM   #4041
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Youíre compressing the puck with the screen on top. You need to get a tamper. Then start doing the dime test. Ramp, place a dime on top of the puck and latch it onto the machine. Take it right back off and see if youíve left the impression of the dime into the top of the puck. If yes, reduce how much coffee you put in the basket.
fortunately, I way way under-fill the basket.

That said, I've been watching the YT videos on frothing, pouring and grinding and I see what you guys are getting at. my espresso is probably ****.

grinding to a 20 second pour at 4 oz ?

I'll start there as a goal.

I need a grinder, something to measure the pour with and the leveler. and a tamper. and maybe a thermometer for the milk.

I'll get around to the actual coffee, eventually.
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Interested. I assume this is also useful for ground coffee?
Yessir. I have 2, one for whole beans and one for grounds as I usually grind enough for a few days at a time.

I would love to grind my beans fresh every morning as needed, but I get up at 5am and wife wasn't too pleased the one time I did that.
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Yessir. I have 2, one for whole beans and one for grounds as I usually grind enough for a few days at a time.

I would love to grind my beans fresh every morning as needed, but I get up at 5am and wife wasn't too pleased the one time I did that.
Ordered!
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Ordered!
Just checked my amazon, I ordered the first one on July 28, 2013.
It's still rocking strong after all this time.

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Old 05-28-2020, 07:21 PM   #4045
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Baratza Encore ordered. Had to use Walmart online to find one under $140
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Old 05-28-2020, 07:28 PM   #4046
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catching up on thread. quarantine life has allowed me to fire up the toys and get my ***** dialed back in. feels good

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Sweet man. Is it a La Pavoni?

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fortunately, I way way under-fill the basket.

That said, I've been watching the YT videos on frothing, pouring and grinding and I see what you guys are getting at. my espresso is probably ****.

grinding to a 20 second pour at 4 oz ?

I'll start there as a goal.

I need a grinder, something to measure the pour with and the leveler. and a tamper. and maybe a thermometer for the milk.

I'll get around to the actual coffee, eventually.
FILL THAT BASKET! You don't NEED a leveler, you have 10 built in levelers (fingers), haha. A tamper is a must though.

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Just checked my amazon, I ordered the first one on July 28, 2013.
It's still rocking strong after all this time.
My Solis Maestro is....well, I have a Solis Maestro, which is the ancestor of the Encore. Still works great, though it's just a backup or travel grinder now.

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Baratza Encore ordered. Had to use Walmart online to find one under $140
Anything under $140 is a good price! Nice job.
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Old 05-29-2020, 12:14 PM   #4047
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Sweet man. Is it a La Pavoni?
no, it's a Strega spring lever but i cut my teeth on a La Pavoni strad. my current routine is a 10 sec line-pressure top wetting, pre-infuse with pump until droplets on underside and 5sec hold then let her rip. nice results with the spring lever pressure profile.
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Cool. I need to get a level to play with, because I never have.
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