subaru AWD VS industry awd

dankEe · 11-14-2007, 02:12 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7dVFY5CxT0

looked pretty biased, but the wet road test, looked real cool
- Danny

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Paranoid Fabrications · 11-14-2007, 02:27 AM

Wow this is old

still funny to watch

imprezilization · 11-14-2007, 03:06 AM

is it just me or the announcer dude sounds like somebody out of south park?

razgriz · 11-14-2007, 04:46 AM

that was cool. but the guy driving the volvo up the dirt hill is teh fail. it looked like he was actualy stoping on the hill.
the nissia millano was intresting. i wish i could have heard the engine.. like was it reving or was the engine bogging too>

wither way.. subaru ftw.

deadlydave · 11-14-2007, 08:18 AM

Ah, it never gets old to see that. Especially the wet emergency lane change and such.

Chino Bling · 11-14-2007, 09:44 AM

i like the roller test.

White out · 11-14-2007, 10:37 AM

good video, but pretty old.

Nick

shemoves · 11-14-2007, 11:13 AM

There are some spots where you can see they are driving biasedly. An example is on the 'icy hill' rollers. When the LGT gets there, they lay on the gas pretty hard and it eventually gets up. When the Volvo XC90, albeit after a fair amount of effort, starts to get moving, either the TCU or the driver cuts power. In Subaru's defense, the Volvo's power cut may be occuring electronically to 'reduce slippage.'

It'd be more believeable if we had RPM, Speed, gear, and throttle position indicators shown on the vid.

Personally, I want to see how the STi, with its extra LSDs, does on the 'slippery roads'.

RankFrank · 11-14-2007, 05:28 PM

how about we just get the rocket assist upgrade and be done with it?

CynicX · 11-14-2007, 06:45 PM

Bias?

That video is supposed to be shown to someone strapped in a chair with their eyelids wired open as a machine drops eyedrops in their eyes. With "buy a Subaru, buy a Subaru" repeating in the back ground.

"Buy a Subaru, Buy a Subaru, KILL THE PRIME MINISTER OF MALAYSIA!!!"

KingOfSiam · 11-14-2007, 07:15 PM

Yeah it's biased, but for the hill climbs you can clearly see the front wheels moving and the rear ones totally NOT. On an AWD drive car... all the wheels should be driving

Wiscon_Mark · 11-15-2007, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingOfSiam

Yeah it's biased, but for the hill climbs you can clearly see the front wheels moving and the rear ones totally NOT. On an AWD drive car... all the wheels should be driving

On which car? All AWD systems do not work the same.

You think they actually used a FWD vehicle in their tests?

DiscoGsus · 11-15-2007, 11:30 AM

A lot of "real time" type AWD's are 100% FWD until the fronts slip then it will start transferring power to the back.

Hites · 11-15-2007, 11:56 AM

i watched 50sec and could stand anymore of that propaganda.

bushflyr · 11-15-2007, 12:36 PM

Most definitely more than somewhat biased. Maybe the Volvo really is that bad, but I kind of doubt it. The announcer sounded like someone out of the '50s.

Uncle Scotty · 11-15-2007, 10:51 PM

.....one of my friends lives ~3 miles off pavement on a gravel/washboard/sand/goat path to his house.....I stopped one day to soften my struts on my wrx(lowered ~1")....and there were several redneck boiz with their lifted pick-emupks and they were askin me what I was doin.....so I told them I was gonna visit my friend down the road and wanted to adjust my struts for offroad.....

they all laughed and told me that I wuz gonna get stuck and they wuz gonna be pullin me out

I blasted down the road---pretty fast

.....stayed ~45 minutes and blasted back.....and stopped and re-adjusted my struts....

Them boiz wuz

.....wut kin of karizat?????

a subaWHAT???

they were all

I laughed like hell at them and drove off----sideways in the sand and off into the sunset on them boiz

KingOfSiam · 11-15-2007, 11:38 PM

Quote:

A lot of "real time" type AWD's are 100% FWD until the fronts slip then it will start transferring power to the back.

You're absolutely right. And the video showed why that system is inferior.

stierzy34 · 11-16-2007, 12:07 AM

Biased? hell no, Subarus are the best

just smurfy · 11-16-2007, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stierzy34

Biased? hell no, Subarus are the best

YOU'RE biased!

They talk about the "softer ride" of the subie versus the honda...so...if we make our car suspension stiffer, we're actually trying to be like the Honda!

Ahhhh!

Ranatsu · 11-16-2007, 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Scotty

.....one of my friends lives ~3 miles off pavement on a gravel/washboard/sand/goat path to his house.....I stopped one day to soften my struts on my wrx(lowered ~1")....and there were several redneck boiz with their lifted pick-emupks and they were askin me what I was doin.....so I told them I was gonna visit my friend down the road and wanted to adjust my struts for offroad.....

they all laughed and told me that I wuz gonna get stuck and they wuz gonna be pullin me out

I blasted down the road---pretty fast

.....stayed ~45 minutes and blasted back.....and stopped and re-adjusted my struts....

Them boiz wuz

.....wut kin of karizat?????

a subaWHAT???

they were all

I laughed like hell at them and drove off----sideways in the sand and off into the sunset on them boiz

Best post ev4r

Phy6 · 11-16-2007, 01:46 AM

At the end:
"These are Subaru sales people at the wheels"

momsaysimspecial · 11-16-2007, 08:02 AM

I rented a Murano, not Millano, last winter and it didnt stop like that when presented with wheel spin or inclines. It was actually a pretty nice SUV. I have never driven or ridden in a Tribeca so I am in no position to compare the two. But I can say it spent some time "Off Road" and handled everything i threw at it with stride.

Tragedy · 11-16-2007, 09:13 AM

Hehe, I have a CRV as a daily driver. I can vouch for its crappy "realtime" AWD system.

CynicX · 11-16-2007, 04:56 PM

I'll have to mention this to my grandmother before she goes offroading in her Volvo.....

funky monk · 11-16-2007, 05:16 PM

Someone told me the other day that the new "Symmetrical AWD" is front wheel drive based and sends power to the rear when needed, while the older subarus have a 50/50 split. I was under the impression that there is a front, center, and rear differential with 50/50 power on the new cars. and what kind of diffs are they? Someone want to clear all that up for me?

(and others I'm sure)

11-14-2007, 02:12 AM	#1
dankEe Scooby Specialist Member#: 97958 Join Date: Oct 2005 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: NYC // FAIRFAX Vehicle: 2002 WRX ASPEN	subaru AWD VS industry awd http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7dVFY5CxT0 looked pretty biased, but the wet road test, looked real cool - Danny * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

11-16-2007, 01:46 AM	#21
Phy6 Scooby Specialist Member#: 2219 Join Date: Aug 2000 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: TeH MAIC Vehicle: 2012 GranTurismo MC Bianco Eldorado	Biased! At the end: "These are Subaru sales people at the wheels"

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deadlydave Scooby Specialist Member#: 131119 Join Date: Nov 2006 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Waterford, NY Vehicle: 1996 Impreza LWRXSTI 91 BMW 318is	Ah, it never gets old to see that. Especially the wet emergency lane change and such.

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Chino Bling Scooby Specialist Member#: 129743 Join Date: Oct 2006 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: DFW Vehicle: 2009 335i Jet Black	i like the roller test.

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White out Scooby Guru Member#: 46277 Join Date: Oct 2003 Vehicle: H1 Viper LP640 FGT	good video, but pretty old. Nick

11-14-2007, 11:13 AM	#8
shemoves Scooby Guru Member#: 80663 Join Date: Jan 2005 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: Glendale, AZ Vehicle: 2005 STi	There are some spots where you can see they are driving biasedly. An example is on the 'icy hill' rollers. When the LGT gets there, they lay on the gas pretty hard and it eventually gets up. When the Volvo XC90, albeit after a fair amount of effort, starts to get moving, either the TCU or the driver cuts power. In Subaru's defense, the Volvo's power cut may be occuring electronically to 'reduce slippage.' It'd be more believeable if we had RPM, Speed, gear, and throttle position indicators shown on the vid. Personally, I want to see how the STi, with its extra LSDs, does on the 'slippery roads'.

11-14-2007, 05:28 PM	#9
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CynicX Scooby Guru Member#: 48199 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Maryland Vehicle: 06 WRX WRB	Bias? That video is supposed to be shown to someone strapped in a chair with their eyelids wired open as a machine drops eyedrops in their eyes. With "buy a Subaru, buy a Subaru" repeating in the back ground. "Buy a Subaru, Buy a Subaru, KILL THE PRIME MINISTER OF MALAYSIA!!!"

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KingOfSiam Scooby Specialist Member#: 84636 Join Date: Apr 2005 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Atlanta Vehicle: 2005 WRX (automatic) Crystal Gray	Yeah it's biased, but for the hill climbs you can clearly see the front wheels moving and the rear ones totally NOT. On an AWD drive car... all the wheels should be driving

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11-15-2007, 10:51 PM	#16
Uncle Scotty * Banned * Member#: 16200 Join Date: Mar 2002 Vehicle: OK buy Nates beans westcoastroasting.com	.....one of my friends lives ~3 miles off pavement on a gravel/washboard/sand/goat path to his house.....I stopped one day to soften my struts on my wrx(lowered ~1")....and there were several redneck boiz with their lifted pick-emupks and they were askin me what I was doin.....so I told them I was gonna visit my friend down the road and wanted to adjust my struts for offroad..... they all laughed and told me that I wuz gonna get stuck and they wuz gonna be pullin me out I blasted down the road---pretty fast .....stayed ~45 minutes and blasted back.....and stopped and re-adjusted my struts.... Them boiz wuz .....wut kin of karizat????? a subaWHAT??? they were all I laughed like hell at them and drove off----sideways in the sand and off into the sunset on them boiz

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11-16-2007, 04:56 PM	#24
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11-16-2007, 05:16 PM	#25
funky monk Scooby Specialist Member#: 143094 Join Date: Mar 2007 Chapter/Region: SCIC Vehicle: 08 LGT DBM	Someone told me the other day that the new "Symmetrical AWD" is front wheel drive based and sends power to the rear when needed, while the older subarus have a 50/50 split. I was under the impression that there is a front, center, and rear differential with 50/50 power on the new cars. and what kind of diffs are they? Someone want to clear all that up for me? (and others I'm sure)