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Old 08-06-2017, 09:38 PM   #1
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Default Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Surface Coating Work?

I was looking at doing a sealant for my work truck and Tacoma. Anyone have any experience with it?


http://www.autogeek.net/diamond-surf...490.1486408811
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Old 08-07-2017, 07:46 AM   #2
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No personal experience with what you're looking at, but I do have several years experience with Blackfire Wet Diamond.

http://www.autogeek.net/blackfire-we...d-sealant.html

It is hands down the easiest product I've ever worked with, and the slickness and shine is crazy!! Protip: Apply it very lightly using a round sponge applicator, and put sponge applicator in a ziplock bag after you're done doing the vehicle. It will never dry out. Do not try to "wash" the product out of sponge applicator. All you'll do is make a mess. Trust me.

For additional protection, wait 8 to 12 hours, then apply a coat of Collinite 845 on top on BFWD. Solid 6 months protection, even on a vehicle left outside.

http://www.autogeek.net/collinite-in...r-wax-845.html
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Old 08-07-2017, 07:57 AM   #3
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I haven't used it. However, from the description I am a bit skeptical.

My Quick Notes

-Ceramic Coating
-Enough to coat 25 cars
-Lasts 3 Years
-Paint/Wheels/Glass
-$130
-The whole last paragraph

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Black Label Diamond Surface Coating should only be applied to vehicles that have first been polished with Black Label Surface Cleansing Polish. This step is crucial as it removes contaminants, oils, and fillers that would otherwise prevent the coating from bonding. Once that is completed, application of Diamond Surface Coating is as simple as spraying on and evenly distributing with a foam applicator. Wait 24 hours before topping with your favorite carnauba paste wax. Use Black Label Diamond Coating Shampoo to rejuvenate the shine and water beading.
You have to polish first, just like the other ceramic coatings.

The whole idea of topping with wax is one that has been talked about before, general consensus seems to be that if you want the slick hydrophobic properties of ceramic coatings, then topping with wax is defeating the purpose... interesting that they are pushing that here.

For the same money (less depending on how you look at it) I would go with a more known ceramic coating. The claims here just seem too good, which is a turn off for me. There have been a bunch of ceramic coating threads here recently, I had one, used CQuartz, liked it so much I just did the girlfriend's BRZ this weekend.

This product seems like a less intimidating looking CQuartz with performance that claims to one-up all around.

Surface Cleansing Polish = Eraser
Surface Coating = CQuartz
Coating Shampoo = Reload

Maybe I am looking too far into things. But the long and the short of what I am straying to say is, it seems too good, too easy. Ceramic coatings are a project, and not a small one.

Perhaps someone else will chime in having used it. But from reading the page you linked, I think I would spend my money elsewhere.

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Old 08-07-2017, 02:46 PM   #4
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That's what I was thinking, I've used the cquartz and was a all weekend deal for cure time.

For 130 bucks I'm willing to try it but I have a feeling I'll be disappointed.
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Old 08-11-2017, 11:17 PM   #5
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I've used it. Go see my post on it. I got the kit though for 200. Pretty wicked stuff. Just as good as any other brand.

But more importantly it's maintaining the ceramic coating that us critical to its longevity. There is no such thing as a set and forget with cars. Oxidation occurs as soon as sun light hits the paint. However, it's just am extremely slow process.

No car product on the market is 100% resistant to that. As long as you maintain your coating it will last and keep you protected with peace in mind.

C quartz is at the bottom of my list. It's overplayed mostly Because it's been on the market the longest but that doesn't necessarily make it the best.

I have the pinnacle kit and it's fan freakingtastic. If I were to do it get again, out of curiosity sake and research, I would do G techniq crystal serium light then opti coat.

Either direction you go prepare to bust your ass like everyone else slaving over a car or truck for a full weekend. It's alot of work with a nice pay off in the end.
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Old 08-11-2017, 11:21 PM   #6
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Also to add to the pinnacle kit I did like the fact that e everything was there laid out for you that helps you maintain the coating and it explicitly states FOR YOUR CERAMIC COATED CAR. And it's always nice to keep the same brands together in bunch (personal preference). The feeling you are getting about pinnacle being too good to be true is similar to the one I had.

Then it came down to doing my first panel on my sti with that stuff and I sprayed it on and primed my pad and boy oh boy it was like black magic. It really is.
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:10 AM   #7
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I looked at your thread, I'm going to give the kit a shot and see how it holds up.
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