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Old 10-20-2019, 08:15 AM   #1
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Electric Mini Cooper SE laps the 'Ring without engaging the brakes

A major benefit of electrified cars is the ability to recapture energy normally lost as heat when braking.

Known as regenerative braking, the electric motor that powers the wheels of a hybrid or EV can act as a generator whenever the driver lifts off the accelerator. The kinetic energy of the moving vehicle spins the generator which charges the battery and slows down the vehicle.

In many EVs, the driver is able to select the severity of the regenerative braking, and in some cases it can be strong enough to bring a vehicle to a complete stop, meaning the driver doesn't even need to tap the brakes. This is known as one-pedal driving.



In Mini's new Cooper SE electric hatch, there are two levels of regenerative braking severity (0.11 and 0.19 g), which the driver can select with a toggle switch. The stronger of these is severe enough that Mini was able to take its Cooper SE on a lap of the Nürburgring without engaging the brakes. That's impressive considering the 'Ring's 12.9-mile length and severe elevation changes.

Before you go out and try this yourself, note that the driver couldn't just attack the racetrack at full speed. They had to drive in a manner that would allow the regenerative braking to slow the vehicle enough so that it could make the 73 corners without running off the track.

The Mini Cooper SE is based on the Hardtop and arrives for the 2020 model year with a single electric motor at the front axle rated at 181 horsepower and 199 pound-feet of torque. Mini quotes a 0-62 mph time of 7.3 seconds and a top speed of 93.2 mph. The battery is a 35.2-kilowatt-hour lithium-ion unit that's expected to deliver an EPA-rated range of 114 miles.
Swindon Powertrain launches ‘crate’ electric car motor for converters

Swindon Powertrain, the British engineering firm responsible for the all-electric Swind-e Classic Mini, has launched a compact ‘crate’ EV motor. The company claims the powertrain has a wide range of applications, being suitable for use in commercial vehicles, sports cars and classic cars. Production is set to start in June 2020.



The transverse-mounted electric powertrain is mated to a single-speed transmission and produces the equivalent of 107bhp. It measures 600mm wide, 280mm tall and weighs 70kg – and Swindon says that it will fit under the bonnet of a classic Mini, in a quad bike or under the load bed of a light commercial vehicle.

Swindon Powertrain claims its crate EV motor offers the highest power/volume ratio of any electric motor on the market. The British engineering firm also says the system could be used as an electrified axle for passenger vehicles, to convert them to hybrid-electric drive.

Swindon Powertrain hopes its new crate EV motor will ease the shift towards electrification for smaller manufacturers. The firm’s managing director, Raphael Caille, said: “to date, niche manufacturers have not had access to compact, high-power EV powertrains they could source in low to mid-volume, leading to a vacuum of supply.”

“When you factor in development costs, specialist OEMs haven’t been able to electrify their vehicles as quickly as they would like. Our ready-to-install ‘crate’ powertrain will accelerate EV adoption in sectors poorly served by the larger tier-one manufacturers and integrators.”
Classic car organization slams EV conversions of older models


As more options for electrifying classic cars come to market, enthusiasts have come to embrace the idea of converting old, oil-burning cars to electric powertrains. But a worldwide preservation group is speaking out against it.

They call themselves the Fédération Internationale des Véhicules Anciens (FIVA), or the international federation of historic vehicles. FIVA isn't simply a handful of Luddites with a megaphone; the organization has been affiliated with UNESCO since 2017.

According to a statement released on Friday, FIVA is less than pleased with owners and builders who try to pass off electrified builds as classics. The organization refuses to promote the electrification of classic cars, especially if the process is irreversible. As it turns out, in the eyes of experts, "classic" is more than skin-deep.

"It is not, in our opinion, the shape or body style of a vehicle that makes it ‘historic’, but the way in which the entire vehicle has been constructed and manufactured in its original form," said Tiddo Bresters, FIVA’s vice president in charge of legislation.

FIVA defines historic vehicles as any mechanically propelled road vehicle that is at least 30 years old, preserved and maintained in an historically correct condition, not used as a means of daily transport, and part of our technical and cultural heritage.

We suspect there are plenty of enthusiasts who would take issue with some of those qualifications, especially those who driver older, well-preserved and maintained vehicles on a semi-regular basis, and those who have developed attachments to cars that aren't universally considered to be interesting or of particular significance.

So, there are holes in FIVA's argument—perhaps large enough to drive a classic vehicle through—but at the same time, most enthusiasts who engage in any sort of resto-modding are fully aware that the results will turn up the nose of a typical concours judge.

FIVA is willing to compromise, to a degree anyway. If you convert your electrified car back to gas, they'll give it their stamp of approval.

"FIVA would strongly recommend that any changes are reversible, with all the original components marked and safely stored. In this way, the vehicle may—if so desired in the future—be returned to its original state and may once again become a historic vehicle."

Electrification is more than just hobby modification; some automakers have even gotten into the game, and Aston Martin and Jaguar even offer overhauls that are reversible, meeting FIVA's standards for acceptable conversions.
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Old 10-21-2019, 01:35 PM   #2
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So does FIVA have any clout, or is it just a bunch of powerless curmudgeons?
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Old 10-22-2019, 07:54 AM   #3
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https://jalopnik.com/this-historic-v...mbe-1839206770

Back around 88/90 some clown from that place ripped my father when he brought two Avanti’s To Show raise money Doctors Without Borders. Tore the the 76 apart for having a GM engine bla bla. Hey it’s still original. He didn’t know the real history of Avanti how it transitioned into Avanti II after bankruptcy. Bla bla
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get off that guy's lawn with your 'letric nonsense.
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Old 10-22-2019, 07:31 PM   #5
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If they aren't going for speed, then isn't a lap around the Nurburgring just a ~12 mile drive on the equivalent to country roads?
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