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Old 08-27-2020, 06:23 AM   #151
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New Nissan Z car due in 2022 could take Nissan 400Z name
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Nissan 370Z replacement will forgo an electric powertrain


Nissan is in the midst of an ambitious plan to rebuild the brand, boost profits, plus establish a new generation of products, and key to its turnaround is a successor to the firmís 370Z sports car. Expected to be revealed towards the end of 2022 and go on sale the following year, the new Z carís launch will mark 15 years since the current 370Z was introduced, back in 2008.

The Japanese firmís short-term plan, which goes up to 2023, will see the company focus its efforts on expanding its crossover model range, launch more than eight new electric vehicles and reinvigorate its sports car line-up. At the same time Nissan will reduce its overall product portfolio by 20 per cent, by discontinuing older models or vehicles that are specific to a single region.

The 370Z replacement, rumoured to be called 400Z, will be sold across Nissanís major markets in North America and China, as well as Europe, in order to maximise profitability. Sports cars make up one per cent of Europeís total new car sales.

Confirmation of the new Z car came earlier this year, along with a hazy teaser image of the two-door coupť. Although design details are hard to pick out, the image did reveal that the sports car will keep the sleek, cab-rearward silhouette that first appeared on the 240Z back in the sixties. Spy shots have revealed that Nissan is already under way with development on the newcomer, using the current 370Z as a test mule. Our exclusive images give you an idea of how the finished car could look.

Talking about the styling of the upcoming sports car, Nissanís senior vice-president for design, Alfonso Albaisa, told us: ďThe Z is the car that democratised sports cars back in the sixties. The current car has been a long time in the dealerships, and so you could imagine the designers working on it.

ďWe could never leave this alone, itís in our soul. You can feel this in other Nissan designs, like the new Ariya; itís not just about fuel efficiency, it wants to be driven, for the love of driving.Ē

To ensure the Toyota Supra rival will be profitable for Nissan Ė something thatís famously difficult to achieve in the sports car class due to the small sales volumes Ė the firm will look to leverage its position within the Renault Nissan Alliance. Rather than develop a new platform for the sports car, Nissan is likely to use an evolution of the architecture that underpins a range of models, including the Infiniti Q60 coupť.

The platform is designed for front-engined, rear-wheel-drive vehicles and is already compatible with a 3.0-litre V6 twin-turbocharged engine that is capable of producing in excess of 400bhp. Such a configuration will allow Nissan to develop the next Z model quickly, because components are readily available, while the performance figures would make the newcomer competitive in its class.

Thereís also the possibility of the Nismo division developing a more powerful and more focused model further down the line.

Despite Nissan concentrating on electric and e-Power hybrid systems, Auto Express understands that the 370Z replacement will feature no electrification, and rely solely on an internal combustion engine for power. To that end, official documents released by Nissan show that an ICE vehicle will be launched towards the end of the companyís 2023 plan.
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Old 08-27-2020, 09:21 AM   #152
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Not sure why they would name it 400Z if it won't have a 4 liter engine to keep with naming tradition. Then again, many automakers disregard the namesake nowadays.

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4 = 4 banger
00 = twin turboz (visually speaking)
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Old 08-27-2020, 09:50 AM   #153
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Not sure why they would name it 400Z if it won't have a 4 liter engine to keep with naming tradition. Then again, many automakers disregard the namesake nowadays.

Maybe..
4 = 4 banger
00 = twin turboz (visually speaking)
If Nissan is going to use the redsport 3.0TT w/400hp that could be an argument/reasoning for the name.

Historically it was a displacement related nomenclature, but nearly all manufacturers gave up on that naming convention. (Lexus, BMW & Mercedes to name a few).
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Old 08-27-2020, 01:11 PM   #154
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more pics, looks nice but what will it do that others can't ? The old 240Z roared into market as a Ferrari look alike for a bargain price . Competition is tough today with few sports car buyers and many out there .
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/nissan...rce=newsletter
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Old 08-27-2020, 01:45 PM   #155
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more pics, looks nice but what will it do that others can't ? The old 240Z roared into market as a Ferrari look alike for a bargain price . Competition is tough today with few sports car buyers and many out there .
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/nissan...rce=newsletter
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/nissan...ssan-400z-name

Your link keeps choking on me, testing out mine.

edit: photos aren't working, but the article shows the front 3/4 and rear 3/4 at least.
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Old 08-27-2020, 10:41 PM   #156
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Comes with Civic wheels aka RS3 wheels..
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Old 08-28-2020, 07:33 AM   #157
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I don't care for the wheels, but that's such a minor thing if the car is right, I usually want to go wider than factory anyways; maybe Watanabe will start making 18's & 19's.
I like the styling, I don't know if I'd go so far as to call it modern-retro, but it pays homage in the design cues; that continuous slope along the back though, just keeps going, I'm into it.
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Old 08-28-2020, 10:21 AM   #158
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that car looks like a Z that put on the freshman 50. It looks bloated and lethargic in design. It looks decidedly NOT Japanese and more 80's American, which is NOT a good thing. The BRZ and Supra have this sharp crisp styling like the original Z. This look like car version of Kirby who just inhaled a whale.
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Old 08-28-2020, 12:58 PM   #159
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It appears the rear end is going to be gross as most of the renderings center around the abrupt rear end black plastic which means it's probably close to the real design. The front end looks alright but I wouldn't call this sexy and IMO the latest rendering of the twins looks much better.
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A refreshed retro 370Z. Neat.
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Old 08-28-2020, 02:50 PM   #161
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If that was released in 2015 it would be cool. Thing already looks obsolete with cheap looking parts.
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WTF is up with the big grille?! Send that front fascia back to the drawing board. Other than that, his should have been the 350Z way back then.
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It's for the massive intercooler.
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Thatís not a bad looking car, but it looks like the 2010 MCR of the previous generation. Not a new model thatís showing up after 2020 model year.
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Old 09-01-2020, 01:49 AM   #166
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Looks like a chop that combines the front bumpers of the FR-S and the Corvette.
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It could be my age, but that 300ZX TT is just an awesome car to me. Sure it was kind of a pig for its time and wasn't as nice/fast as the Supra, but it's just so early 90's cool.

I'm bummed I was a broke teen when all these cool cars were available. Now I'm a responsible adult and they've either been neutered or updated to be so much $$$.
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It could be my age, but that 300ZX TT is just an awesome car to me. Sure it was kind of a pig for its time and wasn't as nice/fast as the Supra, but it's just so early 90's cool.

I'm bummed I was a broke teen when all these cool cars were available. Now I'm a responsible adult and they've either been neutered or updated to be so much $$$.
Having driven both stock (20-something years ago at this point..yikes) - the 300ZX was the better driver of the two. The Supra was a great GT/highway car, but the wait...wait.. wait... oh there's the TURBO was less enjoyable than the 300ZX, which came on quicker. Supra was also sprung softer (even though it was what, 200-300lbs lighter?) further putting it in GT territory. I never really pushed either to their limits though.
At the time - the 300ZX responded better to power mods/there were more mods available, another bit in it's favor. Doesn't hurt that the 300ZX was cheaper than the Supra by a good margin, which is why you see more of them around than you do that gen Supra. When the market shrank, one of them had to die off (much the same way that the Camaro died off for a bit there).
I also drove a "stock" 3000GT VR4 (like 15-20 years ago) talk about piggie...

IMHO - If F&F had not come out, nobody would give a wet slap about the Supra, aside from those who originally owned one.

(almost perfect) analogy time:

Mustang is to Camaro is to Challenger as 300ZX TT is to Supra is to 3000GT VR4
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Meh, that is one boring/ugly looking car. Pass for me if that is what the production model looks like.
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Having driven both stock (20-something years ago at this point..yikes) - the 300ZX was the better driver of the two. The Supra was a great GT/highway car, but the wait...wait.. wait... oh there's the TURBO was less enjoyable than the 300ZX, which came on quicker. Supra was also sprung softer (even though it was what, 200-300lbs lighter?) further putting it in GT territory. I never really pushed either to their limits though.
At the time - the 300ZX responded better to power mods/there were more mods available, another bit in it's favor. Doesn't hurt that the 300ZX was cheaper than the Supra by a good margin, which is why you see more of them around than you do that gen Supra. When the market shrank, one of them had to die off (much the same way that the Camaro died off for a bit there).
I also drove a "stock" 3000GT VR4 (like 15-20 years ago) talk about piggie...

IMHO - If F&F had not come out, nobody would give a wet slap about the Supra, aside from those who originally owned one.

(almost perfect) analogy time:

Mustang is to Camaro is to Challenger as 300ZX TT is to Supra is to 3000GT VR4
For some reason my mom wanted a 3000GT VR4 for the longest time. It was totally "meh." She ended up with an Eclipse GSX which was pretty cool - though easily the least reliable and poorest wearing car I've ever personally witnessed. After seeing that GSX go through its useful life cycle I can't imagine ever owning any Mitsubishi.
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For some reason my mom wanted a 3000GT VR4 for the longest time. It was totally "meh." She ended up with an Eclipse GSX which was pretty cool - though easily the least reliable and poorest wearing car I've ever personally witnessed. After seeing that GSX go through its useful life cycle I can't imagine ever owning any Mitsubishi.
Yeah I wanted a 2nd gen GSX back in the day, then I started reading up on DSM's and steered clear of them.

The 3000GT VR4 & (2nd gen) Eclipse GSX were attractive cars, so if buying something off of looks, they checked boxes for people. That mid-late 90's Japanese design language brought about several attractive cars, RX7, Eclipse, NB Miata, 300ZX, Supra - all nice to look at, and provided a stark contrast to the more boxy early 90's domestic stuff. When the Domestics tried to smooth things out we got the SN95 mustang & 4th gen camaro & firebird, which weren't attractive in comparison, the Firebird is probably my favorite of those three.
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Evo remains the only mitsu product I've ever been interested in. The X gsr has been spotless as far as reliability, wear, maintenance, etc. I'll keep it till the wheels fall off or battery tech comes along far enough that I can switch and not have to change my routine at all.

Otherwise, Nissan is in the same boat as mitsu right now. Why buy an inferior product at the same price as honda or toyota? Only thing they offer worth a damn is the GTR, and even that is getting lack luster.
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God almighty is that render ugly. BRZ / FT front, 370z / GTR quarter panels and roof line, datsun rear end.

Nope.
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This one has more of an Aston snout.
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