The Competition (strictly by the numbers)

R Diamond · 05-22-2003, 09:16 AM

The cars listed below are the only ones to exceed the performance of the STi as tested by Road & Track and summarized in the June 2003 issue. Race cars are excluded, and I used the Evo numbers from the summary.

Braking
60-0
Dodge Viper SRT-10 Competition Coupe; Ferrari 360 Modena

80-0
Dodge Viper SRT-10 Competition Coupe; Ferrari 360 Modena

Handling
Slalom
Dodge Viper; Mini Cooper S; Mitsubishi Evo; Porsche 911 GT2 & Boxster/S

Skidpad G’s
Chevrolet Corvette/Z06; Dodge Viper; BMW M3, M5, Z4 & Z8; Ferrari 360 Modena & 550 Maranello; Ford Mustang Cobra/R; Honda S2000; Infiniti G35; Lamborghini Diablo & Murcielago; Lotus Esprit V8; Mazda Miata; McLaren F1; Mitsubishi Evo; Panoz Esperante; Porsche 911 (all) & Boxster/S; Mercedes S55AMG, CLK55AMG & SL500; Toyota MR2 Spyder

Acceleration
0-60
Aston Martin Vanquish; BMW M3 & Z8; Chevrolet Corvette Z06; Dodge Viper; Ford Mustang Cobra R; Ferrari F50, 360 Modena & 550 Maranello; Lamborghini Diablo & Murcielago; Lotus Esprit V8; McLaren F1; Porsche 911 GT1 & GT2

0-100
Acura NSX; Aston Martin Vanquish; BMW M3 & Z8; Chevrolet Corvette Z06; Dodge Viper; Ferrari F50, 360 Modena & 550 Maranello; Ford Mustang Cobra/R; Lamborghini Diablo & Murcielago; Lotus Esprit V8; Maserati Cambiocorsa; McLaren F1; Mercedes C32AMG, CLK55AMG & SLK32AMG; Porsche 911 Carerra, Targa, GT1, GT2 & Turbo

¼ Mile
Acura NSX; Aston Martin Vanquish; BMW Z8; Chevrolet Corvette Z06; Dodge Viper; Ferrari F50, 360 Modena & 550 Maranello; Ford Mustang Cobra/R; Lamborghini Diablo & Murcielago; Lotus Esprit V8; McLaren F1; Porsche 911 GT1, GT2 & Turbo

Edited: added Cobra into the acceleration numbers. Ooops!

robmarch · 05-22-2003, 09:42 AM

pretty balanced performance, and certainly in rare company for the price.

El Kabong · 05-22-2003, 10:52 AM

So the STi can outbreak a Porsche? I find that hard to believe, but if the numbers say it's true, w00t!!

briank · 05-22-2003, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by El Kabong
So the STi can outbreak a Porsche? I find that hard to believe, but if the numbers say it's true, w00t!!

Dood, the STi and EVO have been stopping incredibly quick in all the reviews. Pretty amazing.

Just make sure you put some braided brake lines in if you want to out break a Porsce at the second turn and not just the first.

-BrianK

felonious · 05-22-2003, 11:31 AM

That list must not include up-to-date info for all models, since a 2003 SVT Cobra can definitely outrun the STi in the 1/4. I don't know why I'm taking the time to point this out as I don't have any special love for the Cobra, just found it a notable ommission.

-Ollie

robmarch · 05-22-2003, 11:37 AM

it's only cars they've road tested. good point, though.

T-WRX Racer · 05-22-2003, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by felonious
That list must not include up-to-date info for all models, since a 2003 SVT Cobra can definitely outrun the STi in the 1/4. I don't know why I'm taking the time to point this out as I don't have any special love for the Cobra, just found it a notable ommission.

-Ollie

Motor Trend has the SVT Cobra at 13.2 in the quarter mile.. I wouldn't call that "definitely". That is exactly the same as the STI. The first cobra numbers that were in the 12's are NOT realistic. I know from first hand experince. Really I would say the STi will more consitantly beat the Cobra because of AWD. Trying to get the Cobra to hook of the line will be way more difficult.

JT-KGY · 05-22-2003, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by T-WRX Racer

Motor Trend has the SVT Cobra at 13.2 in the quarter mile.. I wouldn't call that "definitely". That is exactly the same as the STI. The first cobra numbers that were in the 12's are NOT realistic. I know from first hand experince. Really I would say the STi will more consitantly beat the Cobra because of AWD. Trying to get the Cobra to hook of the line will be way more difficult.

I heard they could get in the low 12's stock...

R Diamond · 05-22-2003, 03:17 PM

Might've left it out accidentally when I typed it up. Will check.

ShagnRS · 05-22-2003, 04:16 PM

The mags generally will use a corrective formula against the raw times generated in their tests. This supposedly levels the playing field for Temp, Humidity, Elevation,...etc.

That might the explain the discrepencies between published Cobra 1/4 mile times and the "I saw a Cobra run 12s stock".

Scott

05-22-2003, 09:16 AM	#1
R Diamond Scooby Newbie Member#: 58 Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: Alexandria, VA Vehicle: 04 STi (blue/gold) 98 2.5RS Turbo (sold)	The Competition (strictly by the numbers) The cars listed below are the only ones to exceed the performance of the STi as tested by Road & Track and summarized in the June 2003 issue. Race cars are excluded, and I used the Evo numbers from the summary. Braking 60-0 Dodge Viper SRT-10 Competition Coupe; Ferrari 360 Modena 80-0 Dodge Viper SRT-10 Competition Coupe; Ferrari 360 Modena Handling Slalom Dodge Viper; Mini Cooper S; Mitsubishi Evo; Porsche 911 GT2 & Boxster/S Skidpad G’s Chevrolet Corvette/Z06; Dodge Viper; BMW M3, M5, Z4 & Z8; Ferrari 360 Modena & 550 Maranello; Ford Mustang Cobra/R; Honda S2000; Infiniti G35; Lamborghini Diablo & Murcielago; Lotus Esprit V8; Mazda Miata; McLaren F1; Mitsubishi Evo; Panoz Esperante; Porsche 911 (all) & Boxster/S; Mercedes S55AMG, CLK55AMG & SL500; Toyota MR2 Spyder Acceleration 0-60 Aston Martin Vanquish; BMW M3 & Z8; Chevrolet Corvette Z06; Dodge Viper; Ford Mustang Cobra R; Ferrari F50, 360 Modena & 550 Maranello; Lamborghini Diablo & Murcielago; Lotus Esprit V8; McLaren F1; Porsche 911 GT1 & GT2 0-100 Acura NSX; Aston Martin Vanquish; BMW M3 & Z8; Chevrolet Corvette Z06; Dodge Viper; Ferrari F50, 360 Modena & 550 Maranello; Ford Mustang Cobra/R; Lamborghini Diablo & Murcielago; Lotus Esprit V8; Maserati Cambiocorsa; McLaren F1; Mercedes C32AMG, CLK55AMG & SLK32AMG; Porsche 911 Carerra, Targa, GT1, GT2 & Turbo ¼ Mile Acura NSX; Aston Martin Vanquish; BMW Z8; Chevrolet Corvette Z06; Dodge Viper; Ferrari F50, 360 Modena & 550 Maranello; Ford Mustang Cobra/R; Lamborghini Diablo & Murcielago; Lotus Esprit V8; McLaren F1; Porsche 911 GT1, GT2 & Turbo Edited: added Cobra into the acceleration numbers. Ooops! Last edited by R Diamond; 05-22-2003 at 10:53 PM.

05-22-2003, 04:16 PM	#10
ShagnRS Scooby Specialist Member#: 373 Join Date: Oct 1999 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Charleston, WV	Corrections The mags generally will use a corrective formula against the raw times generated in their tests. This supposedly levels the playing field for Temp, Humidity, Elevation,...etc. That might the explain the discrepencies between published Cobra 1/4 mile times and the "I saw a Cobra run 12s stock". Scott

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05-22-2003, 09:42 AM	#2
robmarch Scooby Specialist Member#: 18713 Join Date: May 2002 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Time is the Enemy Vehicle: 06 CRV 04 STi	pretty balanced performance, and certainly in rare company for the price.

05-22-2003, 10:52 AM	#3
El Kabong Scooby Newbie Member#: 625 Join Date: Dec 1999 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Austin, TX Vehicle: 2005 STi WRB/Gold	So the STi can outbreak a Porsche? I find that hard to believe, but if the numbers say it's true, w00t!!

05-22-2003, 11:31 AM	#5
felonious Scooby Newbie Member#: 34852 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Vehicle: 04 WRX STI White / Gold	That list must not include up-to-date info for all models, since a 2003 SVT Cobra can definitely outrun the STi in the 1/4. I don't know why I'm taking the time to point this out as I don't have any special love for the Cobra, just found it a notable ommission. -Ollie

05-22-2003, 11:37 AM	#6
robmarch Scooby Specialist Member#: 18713 Join Date: May 2002 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Time is the Enemy Vehicle: 06 CRV 04 STi	it's only cars they've road tested. good point, though.

05-22-2003, 03:17 PM	#9
R Diamond Scooby Newbie Member#: 58 Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: Alexandria, VA Vehicle: 04 STi (blue/gold) 98 2.5RS Turbo (sold)	Might've left it out accidentally when I typed it up. Will check.