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05-23-2013, 08:08 AM | #351 |
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That's interesting, i had never noticed before that they are quoting imperial gal instead of us gal.
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05-28-2013, 02:21 AM | #352 |
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You mean like above 2000 rpm? My CVT is over 2000 rpm on the flat at the speed limit. Even paddled in 5th gear it won't climb as well as my other identically rated car in high gear.
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05-28-2013, 07:10 AM | #353 |
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Your not really comparing the "gears" in the cvt to gears in a reg auto or 5-speed are you? Any cred you had is out the window
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05-28-2013, 07:40 AM | #354 | |
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So yes, I'm comparing M mode to a manual transmission. I would try to engage in a constructive conversation with you, but since you attacked right away and showed how little you actually know about it, I'll just leave you as you are, with your head up your A$$. |
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05-28-2013, 08:46 AM | #355 | |
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05-28-2013, 09:06 AM | #356 |
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05-28-2013, 11:14 AM | #357 | |
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05-28-2013, 06:05 PM | #358 |
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05-28-2013, 11:31 PM | #359 |
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Yeah, well whatever. The EPA considers AWD vs. FWD n their estimates, that's why the FWD versions of identical cars get better mpg than the AWD versions. But her, if that's too difficult of a concept for you, just go away...
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05-28-2013, 11:33 PM | #360 |
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05-29-2013, 12:51 AM | #361 |
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I'm confused, if your saying that your post is too difficult a concept for me, then finally your right on the money. It started with lots of maturity, then got very hazy in the middle saying I guess, that the only reason the FWD cars get better mpg than AWD is because the EPA considered it in their reports. Then finishes by telling me to go away. Is that an accurate deduction? Besides the incoherent nature of the post, it was off topic as well.
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05-29-2013, 01:55 AM | #362 |
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Explain how this is a valid comparison, as the gear ratios in the two vehicles are probably different (which would obviously effect the fuel economy either positively or negatively when compared at a particular gear).
I don't know what your Corolla uses but for reference these are the gear ratios for the 2013 Impreza (sport package, 5-door) 5MT CVT First Gear 3.454 3.581 Second Gear 1.888 2.262 Third Gear 1.296 1.658 Fourth Gear 0.972 1.208 Fifth Gear 0.738 0.885 Sixth Gear N/A 0.618 Reverse Gear 3.333 3.667 Final Drive Ratio 4.111 3.7 Also, just because two vehicles have similar fuel economy ratings does not mean they will will perform the same in every situation. Last edited by webster354; 05-29-2013 at 02:02 AM. |
05-29-2013, 07:43 AM | #363 | |
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Obviously not - differences in tuning, gear ratios, wind resistance, weight, etc. That is all compensated (yes, including AWD vs FWD) for by the EPA testing. Some vehicles will perform better in some circumstances, others in other circumstances. Unless of course one of them is 5 standard deviations deficient... |
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05-29-2013, 08:10 AM | #364 | |
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"Subaru's small car is well-rounded, with a roomy interior and compliant ride. Fuel economy is impressive given the standard all-wheel-drive. It's available both as a sedan or hatchback. It's Consumer Reports 2012 Top Pick small car." Ditto for the 2013 Impreza... I know you get all worked up when we point that out...knowing you are just a hack trying to work their data to prove a point that is continually being undermined by the reported mileage, on this forum, from our real, "non-professional" CVT owners, who keep getting those "unattainable" EPA mpg numbers. What is that about 5 standard deviations? And now you have also road tested and failed your holy grail, gold standard, new Toyota corolla, as it also sucks fuel. Must be a sad week for you. Last edited by Zeeper; 05-29-2013 at 09:01 AM. |
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05-29-2013, 10:39 AM | #365 | |||
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As for the 2013 Corolla I rented - yes, it only got 33 mpg at 75 mph - but it's only rated at 34 mpg epa highway. |
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05-29-2013, 11:35 AM | #366 | |
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Golly, five standard deviations? Why do you think Consumer Reports, who created the data set you are mining, recommend the car for its excellent fuel economy? Maybe they are not as concerned with "deviation" as you seem to be, perhaps a psychiatrist could help with your unique fixation? Last edited by Zeeper; 05-29-2013 at 02:11 PM. |
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05-29-2013, 12:27 PM | #367 |
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some of you worry about stupid $hit
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05-29-2013, 08:42 PM | #368 |
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And some need to get their thoughts together before posting... Last Edited Again.. Really, I am going to start counting for Socialogical Stats.....
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05-29-2013, 09:28 PM | #369 |
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How many of the people getting unsatisfactory mileage frequently use manual mode instead of just letting the CVT do it's thing?
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05-30-2013, 04:50 PM | #370 |
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Damn...you get 30mpg on your impreza? I get only 26...average
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05-31-2013, 08:36 AM | #371 | |
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I get better mpg with a judicious use of the paddles, but it's still unsatisfactory. |
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05-31-2013, 09:15 AM | #372 |
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^I'd still think you're better setting the cruise control at a reasonable speed and let it do its thing, rather than trying to paddle shift to keep the rpms down.
5 standard deviations aside, do you really think you're supposed to get the EPA mpg driving the speed your driving over rolling hills on the highway? |
05-31-2013, 01:29 PM | #373 | |
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Any complaint Steve has with the CVT is invalidated now that he's admitted to bypassing its operation. |
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05-31-2013, 02:11 PM | #374 | |
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And, I do get the EPA mpg driving the speed I'm driving over rolling hills on the highway. In fact I get better than the EPA highway mpg rating of 36 mpg. In my Corolla. With summer gas I get over 40 mpg driving the speed limit. |
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05-31-2013, 02:22 PM | #375 |
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But yet a new corolla fails to exceed the epa numbers as well....
There is something to be said about the power band, there are times I can get better mpg in 3rd then 5th gear.... |
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