2024 crosstrek?

bugatti0628 · 08-17-2022, 02:16 PM

https://bestcarweb.jp/news/scoop/485900

It seems the role the crosstrek has now has been reversed somewhat. The article says its possible that the impreza is now going based on the upcoming crosstrek. What does that mean for the sedan version of the impreza. It also seems they are waiting to see the LA auto show will reveal the crosstrek seeing it is really big here in the states. If that really is the case now, is it about time the impreza has a different purpose

bugatti0628 · 08-17-2022, 02:23 PM

I mean Toyota has the supra and GR86, subaru could use this opportunity to follow what Toyota just did to their corolla, and return the impreza to its original roots

Snow Drift · 08-17-2022, 02:36 PM

Impreza is on borrowed time. Just let it and the Legacy go.

JustyWRC · 08-17-2022, 02:52 PM

I remember being told that the 3rd gen Legacy(2nd gen Outback) was actually designed more with Outback in mind then "detuned" for Legacy use. They increased the structural rigidity something like 120%. They made it cause their customers used them. They needed to MAKE them for how their customers used them. The did some "major" improvements to the Crosstrek's chassis over the Impreza; but, not sure if any "extra" measures were there for the SGP move. I don't recall being told anything special. With Crosstrek CLEARLY going to be king this month, it doesn't surprise me they focus on that aspect of the design and do something similar as with the Legacy to the Impreza.

bugatti0628 · 08-17-2022, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Snow Drift

Impreza is on borrowed time. Just let it and the Legacy go.

The legacy still has purpose for customers that don't need the wrx and simply want a family sedan just like Toyota camry and Honda accord buyers. But having both the impreza sedan and Legacy may no longer be necessary. the impreza needs a new identity and purpose.

Snow Drift · 08-17-2022, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bugatti0628

The legacy still has purpose for customers that don't need the wrx and simply want a family sedan just like Toyota camry and Honda accord buyers. But having both the impreza sedan and Legacy may no longer be necessary. the impreza needs a new identity and purpose.

Sedans are on the way out. Look at Ford. Mustang only. Legacy sales are miserable. Camry is not a fair comparison as it dominates the industry.

samagon · 08-17-2022, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Snow Drift

Sedans are on the way out.

sedans don't need to exist.

the lifted hatchback, what do the kids call it these days? a CUV?

anyway, lifted hatchbacks are good enough. give me a regular hatchback though, rather than a lifted one, and put some power in it, and make it manual.

but yeah, especially with the size of the opening most sedans get these days, it makes it a useless portal into an inaccessible space.

bugatti0628 · 08-17-2022, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Snow Drift

Sedans are on the way out. Look at Ford. Mustang only. Legacy sales are miserable. Camry is not a fair comparison as it dominates the industry.

I respectly disagree. The Honda accord still sells. So does the Hyundai sonata, Kia optima, nissan altima and surprisingly Cadillac has not yet given up on the sedans yet either. Not everyone is looking for only suv's, and not all subaru customers are looking at wrx either. The legacy sedan still has purpose

Snow Drift · 08-17-2022, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bugatti0628

I respectly disagree. The Honda accord still sells. So does the Hyundai sonata, Kia optima, nissan altima and surprisingly Cadillac has not yet given up on the sedans yet either. Not everyone is looking for only suv's, and not all subaru customers are looking at wrx either. The legacy sedan still has purpose

I'm not anti-sedan (I have owned many). But look at the numbers:
https://media.subaru.com/pressreleas...uly-2022-sales

Impreza 17k YTD '22
Crosstrek 77k YTD '22

Legacy 15k YTD '22
Outback 101k YTD '22

mcarb002 · 08-17-2022, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Snow Drift

Impreza is on borrowed time. Just let it and the Legacy go.

I wish Subaru would bring a Frontier/Taco competitor. Since they’re all into the wilderness and outdoor now and all in, in the American market with family vehicles etc

bugatti0628 · 08-17-2022, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mcarb002

I wish Subaru would bring a Frontier/Taco competitor. Since they’re all into the wilderness and outdoor now and all in, in the American market with family vehicles etc

The wilderness lineup needs to round out their lineup with a pickup of some sort. The Baja deserves to return. The truckbed must be able to at least fit a dirtbike in it.

car_freak85 · 08-17-2022, 03:14 PM

I'm sure the new generation of Subaru buyers will love this new Crosstrek.

Meanwhile the brand's old guard and rally cache continue to fade into the background.

Too bad Toyota got greedy with GR Corolla production numbers, or I'd be on that wait list...

Sid03SVT · 08-17-2022, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by car_freak85

I'm sure the new generation of Subaru buyers will love this new Crosstrek.

Meanwhile the brand's old guard and rally cache continue to fade into the background.

Too bad Toyota got greedy with GR Corolla production numbers, or I'd be on that wait list...

You want "limited production" try getting your hands on an IS500...

Straight6 · 08-17-2022, 04:33 PM

The Crosstrek is such a great car. They really need to offer it with that sweet FA24DIT/6 speed combo.

bugatti0628 · 08-17-2022, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Straight6

The Crosstrek is such a great car. They really need to offer it with that sweet FA24DIT/6 speed combo.

that combo would be uniquely built for customers in the US though. Hell that combo with proper off-road treads would be a beast on dirt trails. However we need more plug-ins, hybrids, or all-electric models first to satisfy cafe regulations.

heavyD · 08-17-2022, 03:35 PM

I think the new WRX was all the evidence you needed to know that the Crosstrek has taken priority over the Impreza. I even stated as much months ago after the reveal of the WRX. When you look at the sales number it makes sense as the Impreza is slowly fading away while the Crosstrek has been pretty successful.

vapore0n · 08-17-2022, 04:38 PM

Id be ok if Subaru sold a Crosstrek with lowered to STI levels suspension, more power, and a manual. Call it a Crosstrek STI

bugatti0628 · 08-17-2022, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by vapore0n

Id be ok if Subaru sold a Crosstrek with lowered to STI levels suspension, more power, and a manual. Call it a Crosstrek STI

we have been asking for that for a long time, but until we get more electrified powertrains to offset cafe regulations, we can't build it without financial penalties

JustyWRC · 08-17-2022, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by car_freak85

I'm sure the new generation of Subaru buyers will love this new Crosstrek.

Meanwhile the brand's old guard and rally cache continue to fade into the background.

Too bad Toyota got greedy with GR Corolla production numbers, or I'd be on that wait list...

Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyD

I think the new WRX was all the evidence you needed to know that the Crosstrek has taken priority over the Impreza. I even stated as much months ago after the reveal of the WRX. When you look at the sales number it makes sense as the Impreza is slowly fading away while the Crosstrek has been pretty successful.

Ummmmm.....that would have been 2014 when it surpassed Impreza 4 and 5 door sales combined. A little less than a year and a half after going on sale. WRX has absolutely zero connection to it.

Strong proof people, sorry, SUBARU customers prefer the lift.

That article seems to say that they will even drop "XV" in favor of "Crosstrek". First time I've seen SBR fully lose out/bend to SOA. Not to say it hasn't happened before.

bugatti0628 · 08-17-2022, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vapore0n

Id be ok if Subaru sold a Crosstrek with lowered to STI levels suspension, more power, and a manual. Call it a Crosstrek STI

If the impreza become a derivative of the crosstrek, make an impreza sport based on that and give it more power, STI shocks and the manual. The impreza needs a new purpose. We already have the wrx and the legacy sedans

bugatti0628 · 09-01-2022, 11:32 AM

https://creative311.com/?p=146135looks like JCO beat me to but I didn't think they would announce the brand new crosstrek this early, however the USDM may not have all the features of this JDM version. The body will be same, but the powertrains and certain aspects of the interior and eyesight may be shown at the LA auto show in November

dwf137 · 09-01-2022, 02:19 PM

Sounds electric to me.

Russ_G93 · 09-01-2022, 02:57 PM

So a full EV Crosstrek. No need for the fanfare Subaru -_-

dwf137 · 09-01-2022, 03:06 PM

putting some pieces together - Toyota said that they're working on a small EV suv. Granted, the image in the article is a lot smaller than a crosstrek, but who knows...

https://europe.autonews.com/automake...l-electric-suv

Maybe they're going to let Subaru lead the way with the release and play second fiddle on this one, the reverse of what happened with the soterra/bz4x?

Snow Drift · 09-01-2022, 03:59 PM

Eh, sounds pretty normal to me. We shall see on 9/15.

08-17-2022, 02:16 PM	#1
bugatti0628 Scooby Newbie Member#: 447323 Join Date: May 2016	2024 crosstrek? https://bestcarweb.jp/news/scoop/485900 It seems the role the crosstrek has now has been reversed somewhat. The article says its possible that the impreza is now going based on the upcoming crosstrek. What does that mean for the sedan version of the impreza. It also seems they are waiting to see the LA auto show will reveal the crosstrek seeing it is really big here in the states. If that really is the case now, is it about time the impreza has a different purpose

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08-17-2022, 02:23 PM	#2
bugatti0628 Scooby Newbie Member#: 447323 Join Date: May 2016	I mean Toyota has the supra and GR86, subaru could use this opportunity to follow what Toyota just did to their corolla, and return the impreza to its original roots

08-17-2022, 02:36 PM	#3
Snow Drift Scooby Specialist Member#: 75071 Join Date: Nov 2004 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Long Island Vehicle: AR Giulia,Tesla MY Old: 05 08 11 WRX, 18 STI	Impreza is on borrowed time. Just let it and the Legacy go.

08-17-2022, 02:52 PM	#4
JustyWRC Scooby Specialist Member#: 153088 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Arlington, TN Vehicle: 2005 Baja Turbo 95 Sambar 06 Forester	I remember being told that the 3rd gen Legacy(2nd gen Outback) was actually designed more with Outback in mind then "detuned" for Legacy use. They increased the structural rigidity something like 120%. They made it cause their customers used them. They needed to MAKE them for how their customers used them. The did some "major" improvements to the Crosstrek's chassis over the Impreza; but, not sure if any "extra" measures were there for the SGP move. I don't recall being told anything special. With Crosstrek CLEARLY going to be king this month, it doesn't surprise me they focus on that aspect of the design and do something similar as with the Legacy to the Impreza.

08-17-2022, 03:14 PM	#12
car_freak85 Scooby Specialist Member#: 13530 Join Date: Dec 2001 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Cascadia Vehicle: EA63 , EA81T, EJ20G, EJ205	I'm sure the new generation of Subaru buyers will love this new Crosstrek. Meanwhile the brand's old guard and rally cache continue to fade into the background. Too bad Toyota got greedy with GR Corolla production numbers, or I'd be on that wait list...

08-17-2022, 04:33 PM	#14
Straight6 Scooby Specialist Member#: 419593 Join Date: Apr 2015	The Crosstrek is such a great car. They really need to offer it with that sweet FA24DIT/6 speed combo.

08-17-2022, 03:35 PM	#16
heavyD Scooby Specialist Member#: 194216 Join Date: Nov 2008 Chapter/Region: W. Canada Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Vehicle: 2022 Fast POS	I think the new WRX was all the evidence you needed to know that the Crosstrek has taken priority over the Impreza. I even stated as much months ago after the reveal of the WRX. When you look at the sales number it makes sense as the Impreza is slowly fading away while the Crosstrek has been pretty successful.

08-17-2022, 04:38 PM	#17
vapore0n Scooby Specialist Member#: 21356 Join Date: Jul 2002 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Can't catch me! Vehicle: 2017 Subaru Corolla STI Limited SE-R Type (R)	Id be ok if Subaru sold a Crosstrek with lowered to STI levels suspension, more power, and a manual. Call it a Crosstrek STI

09-01-2022, 11:32 AM	#21
bugatti0628 Scooby Newbie Member#: 447323 Join Date: May 2016	https://creative311.com/?p=146135looks like JCO beat me to but I didn't think they would announce the brand new crosstrek this early, however the USDM may not have all the features of this JDM version. The body will be same, but the powertrains and certain aspects of the interior and eyesight may be shown at the LA auto show in November

09-01-2022, 02:19 PM	#22
dwf137 Scooby Specialist Member#: 161333 Join Date: Oct 2007 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: snoco wa Vehicle: 20 Yami XSR fast leaf	Sounds electric to me.

09-01-2022, 02:57 PM	#23
Russ_G93 Scooby Newbie Member#: 528403 Join Date: Jan 2022 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: NorCal Vehicle: 22' WR-HikingShoe 17' F250, 18' Q5, 18' CRV	So a full EV Crosstrek. No need for the fanfare Subaru -_-

09-01-2022, 03:06 PM	#24
dwf137 Scooby Specialist Member#: 161333 Join Date: Oct 2007 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: snoco wa Vehicle: 20 Yami XSR fast leaf	putting some pieces together - Toyota said that they're working on a small EV suv. Granted, the image in the article is a lot smaller than a crosstrek, but who knows... https://europe.autonews.com/automake...l-electric-suv Maybe they're going to let Subaru lead the way with the release and play second fiddle on this one, the reverse of what happened with the soterra/bz4x?

09-01-2022, 03:59 PM	#25
Snow Drift Scooby Specialist Member#: 75071 Join Date: Nov 2004 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Long Island Vehicle: AR Giulia,Tesla MY Old: 05 08 11 WRX, 18 STI	Eh, sounds pretty normal to me. We shall see on 9/15.