Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Monday March 18, 2024
Home Forums Images WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
NASIOC
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC General > News & Rumors > Non-Subaru News & Rumors

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.







* As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. 
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads. 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-22-2022, 06:58 PM   #1251
Pre
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 139693
Join Date: Feb 2007
Vehicle:
Dura ngo 95
horrorshow

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bemani View Post
Is it official that no GRC this year on dealer lots?
They are on the boat headed here. Last I checked it was 76 units accounted for so far. The nerds have the pseudo vins and are up in the Yota inventory systems.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Pre is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Old 11-22-2022, 11:23 PM   #1252
FaastLegacy
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 11671
Join Date: Oct 2001
Chapter/Region: SWIC
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Default

Had a dealer contact me on how I could get my hands on a Core and since I've responded, they've gone radio silent. They didn't give me any details. Shrug.
FaastLegacy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2022, 12:10 AM   #1253
FaastLegacy
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 11671
Join Date: Oct 2001
Chapter/Region: SWIC
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Default

A different dealer has one showing on their website as in the building process. Same website has a banner across the top that proudly declares they don’t charge above MSRP.

Interesting.
FaastLegacy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2022, 01:14 AM   #1254
Pre
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 139693
Join Date: Feb 2007
Vehicle:
Dura ngo 95
horrorshow

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FaastLegacy View Post
A different dealer has one showing on their website as in the building process. Same website has a banner across the top that proudly declares they don’t charge above MSRP.

Interesting.
Best of luck.
Pre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2022, 07:12 AM   #1255
mcarb002
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 324784
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: South East
Vehicle:
2023 Toyota Sienna
25 AE AWD Silver

Default

They won’t charge over MSRP, but then it’ll have 3K in factory/port added accessories and 2K in dealer added goodies. The port added features you have zero say on, that’s how the different Toyota distributors work as far as I understand. But you can certainly fight or see who the shady dealers are when they add their stupid fees on the window sticker. That’s where you see those nitrogen bs fees or dealers saying they add paint protection to all their cars bla bla you can either take it or leave it, they know someone won’t mind and pay, specially on a GR.
mcarb002 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2022, 09:49 AM   #1256
Ultimateone
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 48025
Join Date: Nov 2003
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: By the Ocean, MA
Vehicle:
24 FL5 CTR
Champ White

Default

Whenever I check inventories by me it sends me to Pennsylvania dealerships, so it seems they might be getting a few
Ultimateone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2022, 12:09 PM   #1257
samagon
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 26859
Join Date: Oct 2002
Chapter/Region: TXIC
Location: undisputed COMBAT! champion
Vehicle:
of TXIC
I also like (oYo)!!!!

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mcarb002 View Post
They won't charge over MSRP, but then it'll have 3K in factory/port added accessories and 2K in dealer added goodies. The port added features you have zero say on, that's how the different Toyota distributors work as far as I understand. But you can certainly fight or see who the shady dealers are when they add their stupid fees on the window sticker. That's where you see those nitrogen bs fees or dealers saying they add paint protection to all their cars bla bla you can either take it or leave it, they know someone won't mind and pay, specially on a GR.
I'd rather pay $5000 for tint, floor mats, cargo net, extended warranty and other bits/bobs (nitrogen filled tires, etc) than just pay a generic $5000 adjusted price.

I mean, if they are going to stick it in me, at least make me feel like I'm enjoying it a bit.

but hey, everyone (a lot of articles) is saying there's a bit of a recession coming, so maybe a lot of the people who want one will decide they don't need one quite as badly as they thought, which will make it easier to come by.

but then, all these news sites have been living on disaster porn for over 2 years now, so they know the formula for more clicks is doom and gloom.
samagon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2022, 12:11 PM   #1258
carsebuco
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 482289
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: DE
Default

I recently pulled out of the waiting list, decided to put money going NA-T on my Supra instead.

Will it come back and bite me in the ass? Probably
carsebuco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2022, 12:16 PM   #1259
dwf137
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 161333
Join Date: Oct 2007
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: snoco wa
Vehicle:
135i vert
fast leaf

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by samagon View Post
but then, all these news sites have been living on disaster porn for over 2 years now, so they know the formula for more clicks is doom and gloom.
Yeah man, I can't buy into it. Yes, we're in a correction because late 2020 and all of 2021 were just bat**** crazy for the markets, so things are coming back to reality. But when Bezos starts telling people to stop buying ****, it's because HE is scared... He runs a company with enormous debt and high interest rates are killing his profit and share value. When the rich people talk of a coming recession, it's because they're scared and want everyone else to do something different, while they continue business as usual.

Granted, I'm no economist or financial adviser so obviously don't listen to me, I'm just taking this all at surface value. Do I think people should continue to buy overpriced garbage vehicles? No. But at the same time, I don't think the bottom is going to drop out like it did in 2008/9. Just maybe think twice before taking financial advice from rich people. Bezos doesn't actually want you to stop buying things, he just wants people to stop taking out loans so his interest rates can drop.

Last edited by dwf137; 11-23-2022 at 02:02 PM.
dwf137 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2022, 12:31 PM   #1260
FaastLegacy
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 11671
Join Date: Oct 2001
Chapter/Region: SWIC
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mcarb002 View Post
They won’t charge over MSRP, but then it’ll have 3K in factory/port added accessories and 2K in dealer added goodies. The port added features you have zero say on, that’s how the different Toyota distributors work as far as I understand. But you can certainly fight or see who the shady dealers are when they add their stupid fees on the window sticker. That’s where you see those nitrogen bs fees or dealers saying they add paint protection to all their cars bla bla you can either take it or leave it, they know someone won’t mind and pay, specially on a GR.
I know for a fact that this dealer will do this because they've do it to all their cars. That's easier to negotiate out than some silly markup. If I have to pay $400 for some window tint and tire nitrogen, I'll take that L.

It'll be a non-starter though, some doofus with too much money will go in there and throw down $10k over sticker just so they can be one of the first to have the latest and greatest.
FaastLegacy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2022, 12:33 PM   #1261
fredzy
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 317270
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: PA
Vehicle:
FL5, Sienna, GR86

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pre View Post
They are on the boat headed here. Last I checked it was 76 units accounted for so far. The nerds have the pseudo vins and are up in the Yota inventory systems.
It's 69 actually

Spreadsheet

Quote:
Originally Posted by samagon View Post
but hey, everyone (a lot of articles) is saying there's a bit of a recession coming, so maybe a lot of the people who want one will decide they don't need one quite as badly as they thought, which will make it easier to come by.
That's me, though I'm not really worried about recession. Until a few months ago my sentiment about getting the GRC was "eh, why not?" I got lucky and fell into a good spot with an MSRP dealer in my GR86 quest. With the value of my trade going down and rates going way way up, that question was eventually answered.

It won't be official until an allocation comes my way, so I'll have to see what the deal looks like then and decide. Anyhow it won't be near as painful as the decision to pull out of line for the CTR. I really wanted that car. While the decision was painful, it was also quite easy because of how stupid expensive it was going to be.
fredzy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2022, 02:07 PM   #1262
mcarb002
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 324784
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: South East
Vehicle:
2023 Toyota Sienna
25 AE AWD Silver

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by samagon View Post
I'd rather pay $5000 for tint, floor mats, cargo net, extended warranty and other bits/bobs (nitrogen filled tires, etc) than just pay a generic $5000 adjusted price.

I mean, if they are going to stick it in me, at least make me feel like I'm enjoying it a bit.

but hey, everyone (a lot of articles) is saying there's a bit of a recession coming, so maybe a lot of the people who want one will decide they don't need one quite as badly as they thought, which will make it easier to come by.

but then, all these news sites have been living on disaster porn for over 2 years now, so they know the formula for more clicks is doom and gloom.
Oh yeah for sure 100%, if I’m gonna be screwed regardless with added fees I rather they be legitimate tangible things that are being added to my car than the “market adjustment bs”. No doubt. Just saying in response to those that see msrp and think it’ll be just that.

Well the interest rate hikes surely should put some folks off.
mcarb002 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2022, 02:17 PM   #1263
mcarb002
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 324784
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: South East
Vehicle:
2023 Toyota Sienna
25 AE AWD Silver

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FaastLegacy View Post
I know for a fact that this dealer will do this because they've do it to all their cars. That's easier to negotiate out than some silly markup. If I have to pay $400 for some window tint and tire nitrogen, I'll take that L.

It'll be a non-starter though, some doofus with too much money will go in there and throw down $10k over sticker just so they can be one of the first to have the latest and greatest.
Yeah for sure I’ll take that L too when my Sienna comes in. They gave me the initial quote at msrp plus all this bunch of add ons and I gave them hell. They brought in like 2 others dudes to talk to me plus the manager and eventually I told them to F off and then I was walking around about to leave until the initial sales guy came back. He was basically like ok we’ll just give you the msrp quote but just know that we can’t control the port/factory adds and there might be some dealer adds. So basically left it open that there will be some added fees and I just said fudge it and put my deposit.

But yeah it is what it is. I can always more than happily back out when the car comes and I feel like the sticker price is not reasonable. Just gotta put in your order and hope for the best. If the fees aren’t reasonable and something you can stomach when the car comes then that’s yet another chance to walk away.
mcarb002 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2022, 02:51 PM   #1264
godfather2112
Papi Chulo
Moderator
 
Member#: 53794
Join Date: Jan 2004
Chapter/Region: RMIC
Location: Boner kill city
Vehicle:
... 2017 BMW M2
2017 F-150

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by carsebuco View Post
I recently pulled out of the waiting list, decided to put money going NA-T on my Supra instead.

Will it come back and bite me in the ass? Probably
Serious question, why not sell the NA Supra and buy a MKV?
godfather2112 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2022, 04:52 PM   #1265
quentinberg007
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 7887
Join Date: Jun 2001
Vehicle:
2023 Tangerine
2023 3 Cylinder

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mcarb002 View Post
Yeah for sure I'll take that L too when my Sienna comes in. They gave me the initial quote at msrp plus all this bunch of add ons and I gave them hell. They brought in like 2 others dudes to talk to me plus the manager and eventually I told them to F off and then I was walking around about to leave until the initial sales guy came back. He was basically like ok we'll just give you the msrp quote but just know that we can't control the port/factory adds and there might be some dealer adds. So basically left it open that there will be some added fees and I just said fudge it and put my deposit.

But yeah it is what it is. I can always more than happily back out when the car comes and I feel like the sticker price is not reasonable. Just gotta put in your order and hope for the best. If the fees aren't reasonable and something you can stomach when the car comes then that's yet another chance to walk away.
Best way to approach that is to bite on some dealer addons but the ones that are of value to you. Crossbars, all weather floor mats, receiver hitch? Even the little iPad holder for the headrests. That gives them some pad but you're at least getting some useful things.

That's what I really love about being able to order my cars. There isn't much in the way of options anymore, but I choose exactly the accessories that I want. My current 4Runner was purchased off the lot and I was stuck with running boards and a remote start that drove up the price $800 or so. The running boards have been in my crawlspace since the week I bought it 7 years ago and remote start is useless. My 4Runner Pro is coming with practically no accessories other than rock rails.

Apparently I was the 3rd order after the cutoff on my GR Corolla. I'll try again when the order bank opens again next month. So heartbreaking to get the email confirming my order and then an email 24 hrs later requesting that I withdraw the order. Soonest I'll get mine is the end of March, now.

Last edited by quentinberg007; 11-23-2022 at 04:59 PM.
quentinberg007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2022, 05:08 PM   #1266
Pre
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 139693
Join Date: Feb 2007
Vehicle:
Dura ngo 95
horrorshow

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by quentinberg007 View Post

Apparently I was the 3rd order after the cutoff on my GR Corolla. I'll try again when the order bank opens again next month. So heartbreaking to get the email confirming my order and then an email 24 hrs later requesting that I withdraw the order. Soonest I'll get mine is the end of March, now.
F it man. It’s going to be produced 4 model years. More special editions will come. Chip shortages should alleviate. Motomachi will be back to full production. Mods etc won’t be bountiful for at least a year anyways. Steady Eddie and you’ll cop the bag 2023. As long as I get mine by the end of 2024 I’m good. It’s to watch all the festering on the GRC forum though. Mafk’s figuring out where allocations are going, idiots calling every stealer. 5k to 20k ADM. I mean
Pre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2022, 05:44 PM   #1267
mcarb002
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 324784
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: South East
Vehicle:
2023 Toyota Sienna
25 AE AWD Silver

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by quentinberg007 View Post
Best way to approach that is to bite on some dealer addons but the ones that are of value to you. Crossbars, all weather floor mats, receiver hitch? Even the little iPad holder for the headrests. That gives them some pad but you're at least getting some useful things.

That's what I really love about being able to order my cars. There isn't much in the way of options anymore, but I choose exactly the accessories that I want. My current 4Runner was purchased off the lot and I was stuck with running boards and a remote start that drove up the price $800 or so. The running boards have been in my crawlspace since the week I bought it 7 years ago and remote start is useless. My 4Runner Pro is coming with practically no accessories other than rock rails.

Apparently I was the 3rd order after the cutoff on my GR Corolla. I'll try again when the order bank opens again next month. So heartbreaking to get the email confirming my order and then an email 24 hrs later requesting that I withdraw the order. Soonest I'll get mine is the end of March, now.
I believe all those you mentioned are actually factory/port installs, which not even the dealer has any say on. That’s how Toyota works, they don’t do custom orders and just build/add whatever they want and the dealers work through an allocation system. Basically I told them my “must have” like trim, roof rails, AWD, and 1500 inverter and they’ll try to get me the closest to that as possible within what they receive…but it’ll still come with other things I didn’t specifically ask for, no other way around it. So they might call me and probably say hey we got an AWD with roof rails but no inverter wanna go for it? You can say no, and continue waiting indefinitely till the one arrives that has everything exactly as you want. For example I ordered an XSE and Toyota is only making like 2 maybe 3 colors for it at the moment. So I obviously have to compromise on color. The moral of the story is you’ll also have to compromise on other accessories. Again, just how Toyota is.

When they quoted me initially they had around 3k added and only $800 was dealer add ons which included paint protection. They said they just included the port install as a general guesstimating, they don’t even know if those specific things they added will come with the vehicle you might get, they just add it as a warning for people to understand it can come with a bunch of add ons you didn’t ask for.

Anyway, sorry to hear about the GR experience. Hopefully you get yours. I mean, I’ll be lucky if I get my Sienna my March lol I was told 1-2 years. Minivans are hawt lol
mcarb002 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2022, 07:50 PM   #1268
4S-TURBO
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 67807
Join Date: Aug 2004
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Default

Dealers are apparently telling people there will be a $25k markup.
4S-TURBO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2022, 08:19 PM   #1269
godfather2112
Papi Chulo
Moderator
 
Member#: 53794
Join Date: Jan 2004
Chapter/Region: RMIC
Location: Boner kill city
Vehicle:
... 2017 BMW M2
2017 F-150

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4S-TURBO View Post
Dealers are apparently telling people there will be a $25k markup.
For the fools that pay it, good riddance. But I suspect dealers will be sitting on inventory at $25k markup. Hell, I’d suspect $10k markup will leave vehicles on the lots.

I think dealers see their short lived days of cars being sold before hitting the lots and expect a downturn, thus will milk every last deal they can.

I did post the list of msrp and adm dealers. His the update file for reference
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...X97-tg/pubhtml
godfather2112 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2022, 09:31 PM   #1270
VarmintCong
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 379605
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Peabody, MA
Vehicle:
2017 Civic Sport
2012 Outback 2.5

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4S-TURBO View Post
Dealers are apparently telling people there will be a $25k markup.
They'd be selling seats on the Titanic after the iceberg hit.

Give it 9 months and they'll be calling people asking if they want the car for MSRP. 2023 is going to get super ugly.
VarmintCong is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2022, 07:09 AM   #1271
quentinberg007
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 7887
Join Date: Jun 2001
Vehicle:
2023 Tangerine
2023 3 Cylinder

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mcarb002 View Post
I believe all those you mentioned are actually factory/port installs, which not even the dealer has any say on. That’s how Toyota works, they don’t do custom orders and just build/add whatever they want and the dealers work through an allocation system. Basically I told them my “must have” like trim, roof rails, AWD, and 1500 inverter and they’ll try to get me the closest to that as possible within what they receive…but it’ll still come with other things I didn’t specifically ask for, no other way around it. So they might call me and probably say hey we got an AWD with roof rails but no inverter wanna go for it? You can say no, and continue waiting indefinitely till the one arrives that has everything exactly as you want. For example I ordered an XSE and Toyota is only making like 2 maybe 3 colors for it at the moment. So I obviously have to compromise on color. The moral of the story is you’ll also have to compromise on other accessories. Again, just how Toyota is.

When they quoted me initially they had around 3k added and only $800 was dealer add ons which included paint protection. They said they just included the port install as a general guesstimating, they don’t even know if those specific things they added will come with the vehicle you might get, they just add it as a warning for people to understand it can come with a bunch of add ons you didn’t ask for.

Anyway, sorry to hear about the GR experience. Hopefully you get yours. I mean, I’ll be lucky if I get my Sienna my March lol I was told 1-2 years. Minivans are hawt lol

They can set the port installed accessories. When my brother got his highlander at the beginning of the year, the dealer preferenced his factory build. When it was allocated, they called him to set the accessories so he got exactly what he wanted accessory wise. The factory options were set on the allocation, but he had say in the accessories. This is obviously dependent on the dealer being willing to call you versus just clicking through.

I was at the Sienna plant a couple months ago. The railway situation has completely hosed them. Completed vehicles sitting everywhere with not enough rail cars to actually get them all shipped. If your car is among that lot of stranded vehicles that are waiting for a railcar, then yes, the accessories are already in the car and you’ll get what you get.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
quentinberg007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2022, 07:14 AM   #1272
carsebuco
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 482289
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: DE
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by godfather2112 View Post
Serious question, why not sell the NA Supra and buy a MKV?
I'm not a fan of BMWs

I was willing to almost sell the Supra and go almost debt free on the GR, but I have a feeling I'd be waiting VERY long.


I'm honestly even contemplating going back to a VA STI
carsebuco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2022, 07:27 AM   #1273
quentinberg007
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 7887
Join Date: Jun 2001
Vehicle:
2023 Tangerine
2023 3 Cylinder

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pre View Post
F it man. It’s going to be produced 4 model years. More special editions will come. Chip shortages should alleviate. Motomachi will be back to full production. Mods etc won’t be bountiful for at least a year anyways. Steady Eddie and you’ll cop the bag 2023. As long as I get mine by the end of 2024 I’m good. It’s to watch all the festering on the GRC forum though. Mafk’s figuring out where allocations are going, idiots calling every stealer. 5k to 20k ADM. I mean

Unfortunately, there’s no guarantee that I’ll be allowed to get any special editions. The 4Runner 40th anniversary is eligible… but they are making 4040 of those and even then the numbers are limited to what we can order. The Sienna 25th anniversary is ineligible. There are a handful of vehicles (the BEVs and most PHEVs) are off the program completely. The Supra special editions never showed up on the program. Circuit and Morizo are specifically called out as not available. I’m certainly not going to panic and buy one outside of the program, though. I’ll keep dropping my order in each month and I’ll get it at some point.

As an aside, but I think that the ‘24 model will see a price jump. They’ll likely make the carbon roof and vented hood more available. Maybe as a performance package plus? The CTR got a huge price increase that Toyota didn’t know about until after pricing was out on the ‘23 GRC. That leaves breathing room to build in more features for more money. Look at how the 4Runner Pro price has jumped from $43k in 2015 to $55k today while being the same basic vehicle underneath. They’ve added things every year but the price has gone up with it because the vehicles are in such high demand. Better than a blatant price increase with no content change, but still. I don’t think the jump will be massive on the GRC, though.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
quentinberg007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2022, 10:09 AM   #1274
godfather2112
Papi Chulo
Moderator
 
Member#: 53794
Join Date: Jan 2004
Chapter/Region: RMIC
Location: Boner kill city
Vehicle:
... 2017 BMW M2
2017 F-150

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by carsebuco View Post
I'm not a fan of BMWs

I was willing to almost sell the Supra and go almost debt free on the GR, but I have a feeling I'd be waiting VERY long.


I'm honestly even contemplating going back to a VA STI
Ok… but have you driven an MKV? Ive ended up buying vehicles I swore I’d never own after having driven them. The engine is BMW but the car does feel like every bit Toyota. I think you’d be doing yourself a disservice not getting behind the wheel of one (if you haven’t already).
godfather2112 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2022, 10:58 AM   #1275
carsebuco
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 482289
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: DE
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by godfather2112 View Post
Ok***8230; but have you driven an MKV? Ive ended up buying vehicles I swore I'd never own after having driven them. The engine is BMW but the car does feel like every bit Toyota. I think you'd be doing yourself a disservice not getting behind the wheel of one (if you haven't already).

Having everything in the car being made by BMW does not give me hope that the car will last. That, and maintenence costs, because, you guessed it, it's a BMW, keep me away from it. Don't get me wrong, I want to like it, I really do, but toyota could not have dropped the ball any more than they did with the MKV.

Hence why I'd love a GRC. AWD, small hatch, and incredibly Toyota. But I guess we just can't have nice things anymore.

Now, buy a MKV and drop a GTE VVTi in it? Hell yeah, but I'm poor.

Last edited by carsebuco; 11-24-2022 at 11:08 AM.
carsebuco is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:33 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2024 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2019, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.

As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.

When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission
Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network.